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Old 09-23-2018, 10:04 PM   #76 (permalink)
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your telling me that trump is dishonest....sure...


but what your appearing to gleen to is that he is mostly and simply being intentionally provocative.

you line him up to obama for transparency... or any president for that matter.

if there was anything on trump...it would have been out...loooooong ago.


obama ran a holy jihad on the press....made it real clear they would not tolerate any leaks....and they sucked up to that guy and surely the same for hillary.

add to this the annoying orange has been under unabated attack from every direction since the day he announced.


and handles it like a superhuman...i cant believe how well he holds up. the amount of smear involved here, in the era of 24 hr news cycles........until i have lived to see it...i would not have believed to be 1/10th survivable....by anyone else in history..

but somehow this inept, lying sac of shit, clueless moron had the capacity to do what others promised and never did...and pulled us out of the paris bullshit...and on and on...

shit like the tariffs/trade wars...the idea is to get rid of or lower all trade barriers with the tarrifs.. rhetorical bullshit is rhetorical bullshit...

but any realignment to the positive is one step closer to possibly lower the deficit. of course...no one knows whther or not it will have a goodeffect till it is tried.
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Exactly what crimes are you suspecting Trump of committing? Pease be specific.

Also tell us exactly which crimes Mueller has indicted ANYONE on has ANYTHING to do with Trump?
I think trump money laundered for Russian oligarchs through his trump business through Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank has admitted this and paid very large fines in New York for wrong doing. This is “why” as to trumps nutswinging with Putin. Trump is great salesman horrible realtor search trump soho and you’ll see he had a hard time selling the properties but no one would know the way he talked.

Cohen admitted to two campaign finance violations both felonies with a tape that seems to show trump aware of it.

And before you say “but...but...Obama had campaign violations”. Yes he did and Bernie sanders and Hillary. Those are pretty normal violations for large campaigns where they don’t send the over contributions back to the donors in a timely fashion. I would even think trumps campaign probably did this. Not knowingly committing a crime that’s way different.
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Can you spare some time to discuss the "trickle down"? Because you keep using that term, and I don't think you know what it means.
or who tip o neill was.


trickle down killed in crib....
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your telling me that trump is dishonest....sure...


but what your appearing to gleen to is that he is mostly and simply being intentionally provocative.

you line him up to obama for transparency... or any president for that matter.

if there was anything on trump...it would have been out...loooooong ago.


obama ran a holy jihad on the press....made it real clear they would not tolerate any leaks....and they sucked up to that guy and surely the same for hillary.

add to this the annoying orange has been under unabated attack from every direction since the day he announced.


and handles it like a superhuman...i cant believe how well he holds up. the amount of smear involved here, in the era of 24 hr news cycles........until i have lived to see it...i would not have believed to be 1/10th survivable....by anyone else in history..

but somehow this inept, lying sac of shit, clueless moron had the capacity to do what others promised and never did...and pulled us out of the paris bullshit...and on and on...

shit like the tariffs/trade wars...the idea is to get rid of or lower all trade barriers with the tarrifs.. rhetorical bullshit is rhetorical bullshit...

but any realignment to the positive is one step closer to possibly lower the deficit. of course...no one knows whther or not it will have a goodeffect till it is tried.
I never said anything about Obama being honest putting words in my mouth.

We have tried the trickle down theory it hasn’t worked since Kennedy administration to help the middle class. Regans deficits were high. And yes I remember tipp O’Neil blah blah. Still under his presidency though.

I think there’s things trump doesn’t get a fare shake on. North Korea being one. Nixon tried the “crazy president” thing with China. And since trump is actually crazy it just might work this time.
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I think trump money laundered for Russian oligarchs through his trump business through Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank has admitted this and paid very large fines in New York for wrong doing. This is “why” as to trumps nutswinging with Putin. Trump is great salesman horrible realtor search trump soho and you’ll see he had a hard time selling the properties but no one would know the way he talked.

Cohen admitted to two campaign finance violations both felonies with a tape that seems to show trump aware of it.

And before you say “but...but...Obama had campaign violations”. Yes he did and Bernie sanders and Hillary. Those are pretty normal violations for large campaigns where they don’t send the over contributions back to the donors in a timely fashion. I would even think trumps campaign probably did this. Not knowingly committing a crime that’s way different.
You need to email this important information to Dianne Feinstein, like yesterday.
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I did she’s keeping it herself though.
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I did she’s keeping it herself though.
Gonna whip it out after Donny gets reelected? Is that the plan?

edit to add: I hope she's dead before then.

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did not mean to put words in your mouth.

when i said "you line up obama with the trumpster"....i was speaking in general as an exercise for anyone to do...not actually you..or something you were specifically doing.


i suk at communication.



biggest health problem with the poor in america is obesity...

so...no. we will have to disagree about rising tides lifting all boats.



and frankenstien just leaked your details....
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I think trump money laundered for Russian oligarchs through his trump business through Deutsche Bank. Deutsche Bank has admitted this and paid very large fines in New York for wrong doing. This is “why” as to trumps nutswinging with Putin. Trump is great salesman horrible realtor search trump soho and you’ll see he had a hard time selling the properties but no one would know the way he talked.

Cohen admitted to two campaign finance violations both felonies with a tape that seems to show trump aware of it.

And before you say “but...but...Obama had campaign violations”. Yes he did and Bernie sanders and Hillary. Those are pretty normal violations for large campaigns where they don’t send the over contributions back to the donors in a timely fashion. I would even think trumps campaign probably did this. Not knowingly committing a crime that’s way different.


So why isn't Mueller all over Trump for money laundering? As if Trump would need to.

Cohen admitted to a non-crime Mueller labeled a felony.

And Again: Also tell us exactly which crimes Mueller has indicted ANYONE on has ANYTHING to do with Trump?
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So why isn't Mueller all over Trump for money laundering? As if Trump would need to.

Cohen admitted to a non-crime Mueller labeled a felony.

And Again: Also tell us exactly which crimes Mueller has indicted ANYONE on has ANYTHING to do with Trump?
I believe mueller is he suphenoed their back records months ago.

I don’t think trump is as wealthy as he states. He’s heavily leveraged as some people that dealt with his Finances in the past have stated before non disclosures were signed now.

Again neither you or I actually know because he’s never realeased any financial documents. He’s stated his worth can change day to day on how he feels in a deposition. I doubt a true billionaire would sell Oreos for a living.

And again Cohen worked for trump and yes they are felonies.
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I believe mueller is he suphenoed their back records months ago.

I don’t think trump is as wealthy as he states. He’s heavily leveraged as some people that dealt with his Finances in the past have stated before non disclosures were signed now.

Again neither you or I actually know because he’s never realeased any financial documents. He’s stated his worth can change day to day on how he feels in a deposition. I doubt a true billionaire would sell Oreos for a living.

And again Cohen worked for trump and yes they are felonies.

Again: Also tell us exactly which crimes Mueller has indicted ANYONE on has ANYTHING to do with Trump?


Since you wont answer I will. Not one has anything to do with Trump. Cohen's were years ago tax issues. He would have pled guilty to anything Mueller wanted to stay out of jail.

Manafort was working with the Podestas for his.
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Again: Also tell us exactly which crimes Mueller has indicted ANYONE on has ANYTHING to do with Trump?


Since you wont answer I will. Not one has anything to do with Trump. Cohen's were years ago tax issues. He would have pled guilty to anything Mueller wanted to stay out of jail.

Manafort was working with the Podestas for his.
Cohen pleaded guilty on two felony counts

1. Making too large a campaign donation.

2. Causing an unlawful corporate contribution.

From which corporation? Yep trump oraganization whom he worked. Those are facts. They are crimes even if trump says they aren’t they are. A judge doesn’t accept guilty pleas from people that plead guilty to something that isn’t a crime.

Are you Tucker Carlson btw?

I agree Manafort, podesta, Clinton same swamp. But who financed this swamp? People like trump.
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Cohen pleaded guilty on two felony counts

1. Making too large a campaign donation.

2. Causing an unlawful corporate contribution.

From which corporation? Yep trump oraganization whom he worked. Those are facts. They are crimes even if trump says they aren’t they are. A judge doesn’t accept guilty pleas from people that plead guilty to something that isn’t a crime.

Are you Tucker Carlson btw?

I agree Manafort, podesta, Clinton same swamp. But who financed this swamp? People like trump.

Call me Rudy G.

I'll call you Rachael M.
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Cohen pleaded guilty on two felony counts

1. Making too large a campaign donation.

2. Causing an unlawful corporate contribution.

From which corporation? Yep trump oraganization whom he worked. Those are facts. They are crimes even if trump says they aren’t they are. A judge doesn’t accept guilty pleas from people that plead guilty to something that isn’t a crime.
Here is the thing, the "Making too large a campaign donation." (ie: paying hush money to alleged mistresses) is ONLY a felony if you say (or it can be proved) that you did it with the "knowing and willful" intent of affecting the campaign, otherwise, its a civil violation and the FEC slaps you with a fine (which gets written off as the "cost of doing business").
Any defense lawyer worth their salt would argue that you did it to protect Trumps personal reputation (which would be legal), or to protect his company, or (as John Edwards successfully argued about the hush money that was paid to his mistress while he was running for President) that it was to protect his wife's feelings. See: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...nce-violations

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Here is the thing, the "Making too large a campaign donation." (ie: paying hush money to alleged mistresses) is ONLY a felony if you say (or it can be proved) that you did it with the "knowing and willful" intent of affecting the campaign, otherwise, its a civil violation and the FEC slaps you with a fine (which gets written off as the "cost of doing business").
Any defense lawyer worth their salt would argue that you did it to protect Trumps personal reputation (which would be legal), or to protect his company, or (as John Edwards successfully argued about the hush money that was paid to his mistress while he was running for President) that it was to protect his wife's feelings. See: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...nce-violations

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I agree and I’ve sited the John Edwards thing before. Only two slightly different things. She actually did do work for the campaign and it was a longer period of time before Election Day.
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Call me Rudy G.

I'll call you Rachael M.
Ha ha. So you married your cousin?

Kidding thanks for the debate.
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Trump is still showing the world, daily, what the average American is like.

That is all.

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what morons like you don't understand is, we pretty much own the world.

Just how long do you think the world would last, if tomorrow America,

1)Booted the UN out of the country and withdrew from ALL accords.
2)Withdrew and stopped payments to all other countries other than debits owed (bonds)

The world wouldn't last 24 hours. No country on the planet would survive as it is now.
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I agree and I’ve sited the John Edwards thing before. Only two slightly different things. She actually did do work for the campaign and it was a longer period of time before Election Day.
Sure, but you appear honest enough to at least concede that the Manifort crimes were worth about 2 years in prison max (probation and fine really) and Cohen crimes would be civil or nothing at all if an establishment president like Hillary or Bush or Obama was in the white house.
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Ha ha. So you married your cousin?

Kidding thanks for the debate.
What? Are you an incest-phobe?

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what morons like you don't understand is, we pretty much own the world.

Just how long do you think the world would last, if tomorrow America,

1)Booted the UN out of the country and withdrew from ALL accords.
2)Withdrew and stopped payments to all other countries other than debits owed (bonds)

The world wouldn't last 24 hours. No country on the planet would survive as it is now.
I think the US will implode via internal reasons before someone tries that though.

Not sure, but pulling funds hasn't worked out all that well in the last years, now has it? But instead of letting the Russians handle it...

Then again, Romen Empire was a world leader full of fat people too, so there is that.

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