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Old 11-29-2018, 02:15 PM   #876 (permalink)
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Oroville and Shasta Dam are OK, just some local gully washers. Had some good rain cells sweep up the valley just now and earlier.

We just got pelted in San Diego today as well. Finally.
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Old 11-29-2018, 03:41 PM   #877 (permalink)
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Rain is picking up again, hope everyone stays safe.
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Daughter just called me, their house survived being in upper Magalia. BUT for now they are stuck in Chico due to the flooding of 99. They've been going through Butte Meadows to get home, long way around up 32. I think they've just about had it with the area
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Daughter just called me, their house survived being in upper Magalia. BUT for now they are stuck in Chico due to the flooding of 99. They've been going through Butte Meadows to get home, long way around up 32. I think they've just about had it with the area
It's pretty fucked up for everyone. Even Chico people are being overrun with people. Especially the homeless people gravitating to the area for hand outs.

I've heard upper magalia is pretty fucked as well, the shittiest part of the whole area survived (rosewood area) so basically 80% of the normal people are gone because thier house is gone, then a good chunk of people who work in Chico are gone because they can't drive 2 hours to work every day and the tweakers are left.
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Potential mud/land slide info.


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Old 11-29-2018, 06:32 PM   #881 (permalink)
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Daughter just called me, their house survived being in upper Magalia. BUT for now they are stuck in Chico due to the flooding of 99. They've been going through Butte Meadows to get home, long way around up 32. I think they've just about had it with the area
It's snowing up in butte meadows now, most folks up that way know how to drive in the white stuff, but I've heard there has been a few accidents already.
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It's snowing up in butte meadows now, most folks up that way know how to drive in the white stuff, but I've heard there has been a few accidents already.
People in Butte meadows yes, people from. Magalia, no.
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Looks like paradise is somewhat open maybe as they have declared a curfew.


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The Town of Paradise Director of Emergency Services has imposed a Curfew as a result of the Camp Fire. pdf Click here to view the signed declaration (112 KB) .

DECLARATION OF THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES OF THE
TOWN OF PARADISE IMPOSING A CURFEW AS A RESULT OF THE CAMP FIRE
WHEREAS, under authority contained in California Government Code sections 8610 and 8634 and Paradise Municipal Code Chapter 2.40, the Town Council on November 13, 2018 declared the existence of a disaster in the Town of Paradise; and,
WHEREAS, I am empowered, upon proclamation of a disaster, to make and issue regulations on matters reasonably related to the protection of life and property as affected by such disaster; and
WHEREAS, under conditions of the disaster resulting from the Camp Fire, it is deemed necessary in the interest of public safety to restrict the use of certain public areas of the Town; and
WHEREAS, life and property is deemed to be in peril and speed is of the essence.
THEREFORE, I Lauren M. Gill, as Director of Emergency Services, hereby declare that a curfew be in effect starting at November 29, 2018, and during which no person shall be upon the public street, avenue, alley, park or other public place or unimproved public realty between the hours of 8 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. within the Town of Paradise.
This curfew shall not apply to police officers, peace officers, firefighters, utilities workers or other authorized emergency personnel or civilians engaged in police or emergency work, nor shall it apply to authorized representatives of any news service, newspaper or radio or television station or network.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT DECLARED that the law enforcement forces of this Town, along with the law enforcement authorities cooperating with the Town, are hereby authorized and charged, to the extent provided by law, with the responsibility of enforcing this curfew and are further authorized to arrest such persons as do not obey this curfew after due notice, oral or written, has been given to said citizen. Any violation of this declaration shall be punished as provided in Section 2.40.100 of the Paradise Municipal Code.
BE IT FURTHER DECLARED that this regulation shall remain in effect until such time as it is terminated by the Director of Emergency Services or the Town Council of the Town of Paradise.
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Daughter just called me, their house survived being in upper Magalia. BUT for now they are stuck in Chico due to the flooding of 99. They've been going through Butte Meadows to get home, long way around up 32. I think they've just about had it with the area
Where did 99 Flood ??
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Where did 99 Flood ??
Near Neal rd I believe
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I heard that butte creek at the centerville bridge was clogged with debris/trees/stuff causing water flows OVER the roadway on the bridge. wholly shit thats like 30 feet deep of water..... and when it popped like a cork, it sent a wall of water down butte creek flooding out everything in it's path. I also heard portions of honeyrun road are gone due to that. knowing the skyway overpass on butte creek isn't that high up, and the few bridges down stream, it's totally possible to flood out parts of hwy99.....

so for the poor townfolk, it's already been Fire. now FLood. next is famine?

I want to come up this weekend to help out friends up there. Do you guys know if law enforcement is allowing only residents back up???

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I heard that butte creek at the centerville bridge was clogged with debris/trees/stuff causing water flows OVER the roadway on the bridge. wholly shit thats like 30 feet deep of water..... and when it popped like a cork, it sent a wall of water down butte creek flooding out everything in it's path. I also heard portions of honeyrun road are gone due to that. knowing the skyway overpass on butte creek isn't that high up, and the few bridges down stream, it's totally possible to flood out parts of hwy99.....

so for the poor townfolk, it's already been Fire. now FLood. next is famine?

I want to come up this weekend to help out friends up there. Do you guys know if law enforcement is allowing only residents back up???

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Only a few portions are open right now, more are said to be opening late next week.
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Call BCSO for an answer on the last question.

When they open an area it's open for the first 24 hrs to residents only and then after that everyone else as well.

But there are exceptions.

In some areas there are only escorts even for residents to where they lived and if they refuse to leave after a specific time they are subject to arrest by army or national guard troops.


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I heard that butte creek at the centerville bridge was clogged with debris/trees/stuff causing water flows OVER the roadway on the bridge. wholly shit thats like 30 feet deep of water..... and when it popped like a cork, it sent a wall of water down butte creek flooding out everything in it's path. I also heard portions of honeyrun road are gone due to that. knowing the skyway overpass on butte creek isn't that high up, and the few bridges down stream, it's totally possible to flood out parts of hwy99.....

so for the poor townfolk, it's already been Fire. now FLood. next is famine?

I want to come up this weekend to help out friends up there. Do you guys know if law enforcement is allowing only residents back up???

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It’s the community that is actually spreading the fire,” he said.

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Old 12-01-2018, 12:09 PM   #890 (permalink)
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Near Neal rd I believe
Just checked NB & SB at Neal and 99 looks open...





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All or almost all evacuation orders lifted.



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I have thought about piping in rainbird type sprinklers to the top of the house to be turned on in case of a grass fire in the area. this of course relies on someone being home at the time of the fire.
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If one were really worried, some outdoor heat sensors could be set up for an active suppression system watering walls eves and rooftop. Weights and fusible mechanical links could do as well.

Having enough available water and power to run pumps would be the harder part.
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If you have a well, a generator, a tank to hold the water you have what is required to setup such a system.

Most people have the $$$$ to do this just missing the ingenuity and drive.
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I have thought about piping in rainbird type sprinklers to the top of the house to be turned on in case of a grass fire in the area. this of course relies on someone being home at the time of the fire.
I fabricated several "stands" that mount on the peak of the roof that can be placed at a moments notice with a sprinkler on top.
I will have to get a picture of them.

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If you have a well, a generator, a tank to hold the water you have what is required to setup such a system.

Most people have the $$$$ to do this just missing the ingenuity and drive.
I have the well, generator and 3K gallon tank as well (+5K pool in the summer)

most people don't think about it until the time they need it, and that's to late.
also putting water on the house, when the attic is on fire does very little help. many of these homes are burning from the inside out. (embers in attic and crawl space)

I need to start a new thread on what people do for fire protection.
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In modern times the state law mandates one purchase and install the type of vents that close / fuse closed when heat is around so that's a good thing the state done did.

Yes that could be a good thread.



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I fabricated several "stands" that mount on the peak of the roof that can be placed at a moments notice with a sprinkler on top.
I will have to get a picture of them.



I have the well, generator and 3K gallon tank as well (+5K pool in the summer)

most people don't think about it until the time they need it, and that's to late.
also putting water on the house, when the attic is on fire does very little help. many of these homes are burning from the inside out. (embers in attic and crawl space)

I need to start a new thread on what people do for fire protection.
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I will have to get a picture of them.
Please do.

And I second the idea for an all around fire protection thread, like an all round fire everything thread, from protection to reaction to locations in the home safest for precious storage, etc.
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Don't plant flammable plants next to your house. People will just have to get used to the fact that having a house that looks like you're living in the wilderness just isn't a practical way to live.
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Don't plant flammable plants next to your house. People will just have to get used to the fact that having a house that looks like you're living in the wilderness just isn't a practical way to live.
That's another good add for the fire safety thread to come. I did research a while back and there are fire safe and fire bad plants out there. If you do your homework you can go ahead and have plants that around that aren't a threat. If you don't do any research you may end up with major fuel plants that will screw you over.
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