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Old 11-23-2018, 07:49 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Buy it. Let it sit for a few mo tha accruing storage. Right some bullshit about some expensive ass repair, injector seats and radiator or some shit. Start lien sale
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Buy it. Let it sit for a few mo tha accruing storage. Right some bullshit about some expensive ass repair, injector seats and radiator or some shit. Start lien sale
This is just shady enough to work...

Except don't you need a business license to be able to start a lien?
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An RV would have to be a screaming deal for me to go through the potential bullshit you have ahead of you. It could be quick & painless butnI suspect it's not going to be that simple.

No I didn't move.

I'm currently on hold with Idaho licensing to check if there is a lean. Sounds like we would be better off paying more for less hassle. We have a handful of them we are looking at. This one is 1/3 the price of our budget and comparable to the others.

I feel it makes no sense he didn't take the time to get a title since he has had it for 3 years.


Just got off the phone with Utah licensing. There is a lean on it. They can't give me any info on it so it's a no go.

Too bad. It's a 2001 Fleetwood Bounder 32h in good shape for $5500.00
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No I didn't move.

I'm currently on hold with Idaho licensing to check if there is a lean. Sounds like we would be better off paying more for less hassle. We have a handful of them we are looking at. This one is 1/3 the price of our budget and comparable to the others.

I feel it makes no sense he didn't take the time to get a title since he has had it for 3 years.


Just got off the phone with Utah licensing. There is a lean on it. They can't give me any info on it so it's a no go.

Too bad. It's a 2001 Fleetwood Bounder 32h in good shape for $5500.00


Damn those go for 20-25 out here. If the owner never got the title then there most likely would still be a lien on it if the company closed the doors before signing it over. I wonder what the correct legal steps are to figure it out. $15k savings just may be worth the hassle.

Maybe $2500 will buy it, haha.
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Just got off the phone with Utah licensing. There is a lean on it. They can't give me any info on it so it's a no go.

Too bad. It's a 2001 Fleetwood Bounder 32h in good shape for $5500.00
Contact a title place and have them find the lienholder for you.

Contact the lienholder and ask about buying it from them. Tell them where it is and ask if they would be interested in having you do a repo job on their behalf.
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Damn those go for 20-25 out here. If the owner never got the title then there most likely would still be a lien on it if the company closed the doors before signing it over. I wonder what the correct legal steps are to figure it out. $15k savings just may be worth the hassle.

Maybe $2500 will buy it, haha.
That is what I was thinking.

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Contact a title place and have them find the lienholder for you.

Contact the lienholder and ask about buying it from them. Tell them where it is and ask if they would be interested in having you do a repo job on their behalf.
That might just work lol.

I just called Idaho again and gave them the title number since it was last registered in Nampa in 2015. That title number is for a completely different vehicle so something fishy is going on. Carfax shows it was titled in Nampa in 2013 and 2015.
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Damn those go for 20-25 out here. If the owner never got the title then there most likely would still be a lien on it if the company closed the doors before signing it over. I wonder what the correct legal steps are to figure it out. $15k savings just may be worth the hassle.

Maybe $2500 will buy it, haha.

$15,000 - $20,000 tops
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Who do you think you are? RV Trader?
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Posting here will just provide another place for people to babble the usual nonsense. Each state makes it's own title laws and procedures for getting a title. Maine, like every other state has a a website that provides the info. But I guess it's easier to ask here and wait for hours for bad info than spent 5 minutes searching the internet and reading facts.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=J5L...30.3mUeGjGNbeQ
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San Diego county has a lot to choose from in the 15+ yr old motorhome market.
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Posting here will just provide another place for people to babble the usual nonsense. Each state makes it's own title laws and procedures for getting a title. Maine, like every other state has a a website that provides the info. But I guess it's easier to ask here and wait for hours for bad info than spent 5 minutes searching the internet and reading facts.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=J5L...30.3mUeGjGNbeQ

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I don't really live in Maine.


Either way this rv has been through a few auctions. The seller keeps telling me "Not a problem, will be easy to get a title". " just talked to Utah, they are working on it. May be easier than I thought".

We decided we are not going to deal with it. There are plenty of them on the market and winter is here. Should be able to make a decent deal on one with cash in hand.

We are upgrading because our pop up sucks in cold wet weather. It's a hassle to dry it out after going to Havoc, the PTR fall classics or the Moyie mud bogs. A shower would be awesome and not having to set up and tear down will be a bonus. Also taking two rigs and two trailers everywhere sucks. Sleeping in the cab of the pickup when we go to the Kill Bill run in Montana sucks even more because we don't want to take both rigs.

The only downfall is we won't be able to camp in our favorite spots with a 32 foot Rv.

This is the Rv for $5500
https://spokane.craigslist.org/rvs/d...740959356.html
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Just got off the phone with Utah licensing. There is a lean on it. They can't give me any info on it so it's a no go.

Too bad. It's a 2001 Fleetwood Bounder 32h in good shape for $5500.00[/QUOTE]

Dafuk? 17 year old camper with a lien on it? I know they offer 10 yr financing on these things but that is just awful. Does nobody save money these days for toys? I feel like an asshole when I finance a new to me DD every 10-15 years or so.
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I don't really live in Maine.


Either way this rv has been through a few auctions. The seller keeps telling me "Not a problem, will be easy to get a title". " just talked to Utah, they are working on it. May be easier than I thought".

We decided we are not going to deal with it. There are plenty of them on the market and winter is here. Should be able to make a decent deal on one with cash in hand.

We are upgrading because our pop up sucks in cold wet weather. It's a hassle to dry it out after going to Havoc, the PTR fall classics or the Moyie mud bogs. A shower would be awesome and not having to set up and tear down will be a bonus. Also taking two rigs and two trailers everywhere sucks. Sleeping in the cab of the pickup when we go to the Kill Bill run in Montana sucks even more because we don't want to take both rigs.

The only downfall is we won't be able to camp in our favorite spots with a 32 foot Rv.

This is the Rv for $5500
https://spokane.craigslist.org/rvs/d...740959356.html
I've done a bonded Washington title in the past, and, yes it's a PITA.
IF this has a Washington title, Washington DMV has a procedure (for nominal amount cash) that will provide you with the legal and registered owners info. Then you follow the trail to get releases. Then you can get a bonded title, which, after three years, you can get a real title.

However if it were me, I'd find a local DMV, and tell them you've got this 'turd' RV abandoned on your property, and would like to find the registered owner to request them to move it.
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I've done a bonded Washington title in the past, and, yes it's a PITA.
IF this has a Washington title, Washington DMV has a procedure (for nominal amount cash) that will provide you with the legal and registered owners info. Then you follow the trail to get releases. Then you can get a bonded title, which, after three years, you can get a real title.

However if it were me, I'd find a local DMV, and tell them you've got this 'turd' RV abandoned on your property, and would like to find the registered owner to request them to move it.
From what I can tell it was registered in Utah a hand full of times. At some point it got registered in Idaho twice sort of. Idaho has no records of that vin number being licensed. The title number shown on the carfax report for Idaho belongs to a different vin number.
Either someone grabbed the wrong title thinking it was for that Rv or someone pulled a fast one between Utah and Idaho registrations.
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Just got off the phone with Utah licensing. There is a lean on it. They can't give me any info on it so it's a no go.

Too bad. It's a 2001 Fleetwood Bounder 32h in good shape for $5500.00
Dafuk? 17 year old camper with a lien on it? I know they offer 10 yr financing on these things but that is just awful. Does nobody save money these days for toys? I feel like an asshole when I finance a new to me DD every 10-15 years or so.[/QUOTE]


I'm leaning towards this guy is trying to off this thing on some sorry bastard.

I think someone pulled a fast one on him or his brother who he claims he purchased it from. I could be wrong but I'm not going down this path.

In October of '09 it looks like the lean was removed Yet Utah shows it has one. Idaho doesn't show a lean but they also have no records for that Vin number although it was reported to have been registered.

Looks like something fishy happened between 10/22/09 and 10/31/09.

10/22/2009 Motor Vehicle Dept.​
Salt Lake City,​ Ut Title ​(Title #:ut9595796)​ ​(Lien Reported)​
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10/31/2009 Motor Vehicle Dept.​
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10/31/2009 Motor Vehicle Dept.​
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09/23/2013 Motor Vehicle Dept.​
Nampa,​ Id Registration Event/​Renewal
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Nampa,​ Id Registration Event/​Renewal
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Why hasnít the seller already done it ???
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This is just shady enough to work...

Except don't you need a business license to be able to start a lien?
It doesn't have to be you. No friends with auto repair facilities? Buy it. Let it sit for a couple months with a repair order. With storage. Have buddy start a lien. Company with lein will then decide how much interest they actually have in it, and will either pay the bill and collect rv. Or release interest.

Never done it. But in theory it should work out.
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The 09 lien, then a 2013 auction then a few reg renewals does not make sense. There should be one between the auction and the reg renewals. Unless it didn't sell.
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It doesn't have to be you. No friends with auto repair facilities? Buy it. Let it sit for a couple months with a repair order. With storage. Have buddy start a lien. Company with lein will then decide how much interest they actually have in it, and will either pay the bill and collect rv. Or release interest.

Never done it. But in theory it should work out.
Yes and no. Obviously state laws differ, but a little over 10yrs ago, I let someone store an LS1 Camaro at my house while he moved to Ak (military move) and was supposed to get it shipped up a month later. 1mo turned into 3 and 3mo turned into like 8. I ended up selling the house and my ex fil towed it to his salvage yard and proceeded to file a lien against it for storage. Long story short after some drama we found out there was a lien and the bank was only legally obligated to pay 30 or 60 days of storage. They paid it instead of releasing the lien and us keeping the car and had it towed away.

So yes it can be done, but not just any tow co/salvage yard is gonna do it.
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The 09 lien, then a 2013 auction then a few reg renewals does not make sense. There should be one between the auction and the reg renewals. Unless it didn't sell.
The regular renewals in Idaho aren't legit. The title number for those belong to a different Vin#
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