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Old 12-07-2018, 05:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Needing paint info

So I'm starting to research painting the cherokee I recently bought and am having trouble finding a good source of information on the basics. My painting experience doesn't extend far beyond rattle cans so I need the dummies version. Are there good sites out there?
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This is a good site.
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Ive always liked and had good luck with Dupli-Color for easy to spray on the cheap.

Paint jobs are 99% prep and 1% paint.
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I know no matter how long I spend on prep, after I paint it I realize I wasnt even close to done.
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A gallon of exterior latex and a whisk broom.

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Rattle can with a brake parts cleaner nozzle is super fast and leaves no spray lines. You can empty a can in about thirty seconds.
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I really like house paint applied with a brush, it sets a good tone for the future treatment of the vehicle.

Trying to keep stuff nice is no fun.
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Prep prep prep. The way I am doing my Buick grand national in the garage is

Sand with a DA 80 grit to bare metal
Apply epoxy primer. I am using shopline JP377
Do any filler work.
Apply high build primer. Shopline 202
Snead with long boards up to 400 grit
One more coat of epoxy thinned 10%
3 coats of paint
3-4 coats of clear


If I was going to do another paint job I would try to paint it as much as i could assembled as i ran out of room quickly.

I know you are not a big Facebook person but there are a few good groups to join. The other thing is start watching all the painting videos on YouTube
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I have seen sanders that paint nicer than painters. What makes the painter a painter is he can blend and mix paint.

Hold the gun 90 degrees from the panel and don't let the hose hit the car.
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This is a good site.
Maybe she wants to pine-rest it for a little while, first. You know, get all those sammich making ingredients out on the counter so to speak... prep is important.
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Prep prep prep. The way I am doing my Buick grand national in the garage is

Sand with a DA 80 grit to bare metal
Apply epoxy primer. I am using shopline JP377
Do any filler work.
Apply high build primer. Shopline 202
Snead with long boards up to 400 grit
One more coat of epoxy thinned 10%
3 coats of paint
3-4 coats of clear


If I was going to do another paint job I would try to paint it as much as i could assembled as i ran out of room quickly.

I know you are not a big Facebook person but there are a few good groups to join. The other thing is start watching all the painting videos on YouTube
I'm not sanding down to metal since I'm spraying inside and out. I doubt I'll even remove all the dents and I know I'm not painting wheel wells or the engine bay. Basically I want it reasonably shiny and all one color. I'm not looking to win shows. That being said, I don't want a rattle can paint job either.

I figured I'd sand the whole car to rough it up, filler work, high build pimer, color and clear. I have no idea what grits to use, what paints or what versions of bondo on the rough spots.

Also, this will be done with a harbor freight or tractor supply spray gun.
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I know no matter how long I spend on prep, after I paint it I realize I wasnt even close to done.
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Single stage paint might be a good option for you. Makes repairs easier. Using disposable reservoirs on a gun to reduce clean up and dropping a couple marbles in to help agitate the paint while spraying. If you decide to go with base clear coat bcc mix the clear with the paint after the first layer base is applied. Also stick with the whole system a manufacturer makes of reducer paint and primer. If the chemistry isn't right through the layers things wont bond or cure right. Watch some video of painters doing their craft and watch listen for techniques.

Lots of good info out there search garage paint booth

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hdrp...rials-sanding/
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personally Id recommend spraying your whole vehicle with "bedliner" material..

I went with black/red/silver

its a little stronger than paint..

http://www.offroadworld.net/NewGalle...42171-stnd.jpg

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I'm not sanding down to metal since I'm spraying inside and out. I doubt I'll even remove all the dents and I know I'm not painting wheel wells or the engine bay. Basically I want it reasonably shiny and all one color. I'm not looking to win shows. That being said, I don't want a rattle can paint job either.

I figured I'd sand the whole car to rough it up, filler work, high build pimer, color and clear. I have no idea what grits to use, what paints or what versions of bondo on the rough spots.
Sanding sucks. Go get some 120 and sand the best part/area you can find that might need just a little filler. Do the bondo thing and prime. See what happens.... (how do you get to Carnegie Hall?)

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Also, this will be done with a harbor freight or tractor supply spray gun.
I used to spray an awesome coat of shit waterborne glue with a shit homedepot sprayer... practice, practice, practice, my friend.
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personally Id recommend spraying your whole vehicle with "bedliner" material..

I went with black/red/silver

its a little stronger than paint..

http://www.offroadworld.net/NewGalle...42171-stnd.jpg
OP isnt a 17 year old high school kid.....
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Old 12-07-2018, 10:23 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Implement paint from Tractor Supply.

Cheap HVLP gun.

Lots of Prep.

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Nothing fancy, but gets the job done.
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OP isnt a 17 year old high school kid.....
Fuck you. She sure as shit coulda mighta maybe been...
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Fuck you. She sure as shit coulda mighta maybe been...
Well if he/she/they is, and/or are, then the "rhino lined" job would pass. Otherwise, no
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Prep prep prep. The way I am doing my Buick grand national in the garage is

Sand with a DA 80 grit to bare metal
Apply epoxy primer. I am using shopline JP377
Do any filler work.
Apply high build primer. Shopline 202
Snead with long boards up to 400 grit
One more coat of epoxy thinned 10%
3 coats of paint
3-4 coats of clear


If I was going to do another paint job I would try to paint it as much as i could assembled as i ran out of room quickly.

I know you are not a big Facebook person but there are a few good groups to join. The other thing is start watching all the painting videos on YouTube
Only thing I have to add is that I learned you can typically apply body filler to straight metal and then an epoxy primer from there.

Most epoxy primers have a 3-7 day re-coat window, definitely use this to your advantage.

DA the car with an interface pad. 240–320-400-600, then color, then clear.

Done in a shitty garage with an HVLP gun and NAPA paints:
https://i.imgur.com/Z76eG3R.jpg

Edit: Unembeded because yuuuuuuge


Double edit: Don’t forget to make sure your air system is adequate too. Gonna need to get that air REAL fuckin dry.
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Looks like that came out tits. Got any other pics?
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Looks like that came out tits. Got any other pics?
Who, me?

Try this, itís a link to the album on FB.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2471961&type=3
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