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Old 01-31-2019, 12:02 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Perfect trailer winch as is. I'd add a handle for the brake if anything.


Or use the gears out of it and put them in an 8274 with the 6.6 hp motor from an xd9000 I think it is and have a better winch than anything short of a gigglepin.
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Meh. I like my Belleview, which is what this evolved from. I think you did ok, I paid for my Belleview knowing its limits. If you know that they're not a power out winch and that they're only rated to 6000, they're great. If you want power in and out, then don't use it. They're not junk and they're getting harder to find because of everyone saying they're junk.
You can retrofit a Warn control box on them and wire only 2 of the solenoids. I use a Ford starter solenoid on mine.
I have the original manual for mine, text me if you need it.
If you want it gone, go to the Willys forum and throw it in the garage sale. I'm sure someone would love to have it.
I would say this ^^. If you want to use it for something and don't mind antiquated shit to tinker with, use it. If you want a winch you can use while sleeping, off it to someone who enjoys tinkering with old stuff and getchaself something more modern. Either way, you did good for a pack-0-stones.
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Old 01-31-2019, 02:52 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I have the original manual for mine, text me if you need it.
I would love to have that, You going to KOH Sammy ?



I have (I think) every graduation of the upright winch from the original Bellview to the modern 8274 .

I even have one that has the Bellview Co. and Warn name on the same tag, they must have teamed up (bailed out?) before gaining 100% control .

They definitely are not junk, they are a strong winch that served many well and were improved upon to the point of the 8274, just because the new ones are moar betta doesn't mean this old bad boy of it's day can't get the job done .

I don't need it by any means, but it is in very good condition, and I believe the only one I have that the handle isn't broken off of .

Some people collect old beer cans, I drink beer, throw the cans away and collect winches, and they collect dust .


There a 4 Uprights in that 1st pic, with the 8274 mostly hidden in the back, If anyone has any old winch controllers you have no use for, even if they are in rough condition I would be a taker ...
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Perfect trailer winch as is. I'd add a handle for the brake if anything.


Or use the gears out of it and put them in an 8274 with the 6.6 hp motor from an xd9000 I think it is and have a better winch than anything short of a gigglepin.
Idk what a gear swap would get you, 8274 are the same set. Arent they? 8274 are fast as fuck already.


Gigglepin head, + inline dual motor plates = quad 6.6 motor. + dual width spool, 16k, 300', 1min spool up!
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You need the solenoid pack/box or actual controller?

I have to look, but somewhere i have a ~'72 box with the metal plug. It went through a flood though. I know the wires are junk.
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Idk what a gear swap would get you, 8274 are the same set. Arent they? 8274 are fast as fuck already.


Gigglepin head, + inline dual motor plates = quad 6.6 motor. + dual width spool, 16k, 300', 1min spool up!

OG 8274 is 68ish feet a minute

8274-50 50th anniversary edition is 79' a minute and the newer 8274-70 is about 120' a minute with a motor from a 9000xp so I was wrong, the motor is not from an xd9000.


The gear train in the 6000 is higher and the 6.6 hp motor has the power to retain the line speed under load. There is a write up here on PBB about doing the build with all the details.
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Warn just came out with an 8274-70. Faster then all the previous models and rated at 10,000 lbs. I just picked up serial number 250
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Warn just came out with an 8274-70. Faster then all the previous models and rated at 10,000 lbs. I just picked up serial number 250
Is it any different aside from the motor?
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Is it any different aside from the motor?
https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/warn-8.../R-BCSQ-101070


TECHNICAL DETAILS
High-output 6HP motor for 10,000lb pulling capacity and competition-level line speed
IP68 waterproof and submersible Albright electrical contactor controls
150ft of 3/8" diameter Spydura synthetic rope
High-strength polymer control pack housing with throwback Warn hublock logo
Forged and polished 6061-T6 billet aluminum hawse fairlead for total corrosion resistance
Aviation-inspired stainless steel clutch knob
Commemorative stainless steel drum end plate
Two Oilite bushings installed on pinion gear assembly for improved wear resistance
Bolt-and-washer secures brake shaft delivers enhanced durability

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https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/warn-8.../R-BCSQ-101070


TECHNICAL DETAILS
High-output 6HP motor for 10,000lb pulling capacity and competition-level line speed
IP68 waterproof and submersible Albright electrical contactor controls
150ft of 3/8" diameter Spydura synthetic rope
High-strength polymer control pack housing with throwback Warn hublock logo
Forged and polished 6061-T6 billet aluminum hawse fairlead for total corrosion resistance
Aviation-inspired stainless steel clutch knob
Commemorative stainless steel drum end plate
Two Oilite bushings installed on pinion gear assembly for improved wear resistance
Bolt-and-washer secures brake shaft delivers enhanced durability
I mean is there any reason I can't just put that motor on whatever old 8274 I have lying around and BAM! it's now reasonably a 10Klbs winch, that will perform exactly like that, but without the bling-blang and the $$$ price tag?
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