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Old 02-12-2019, 11:42 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Any years better or worse?


I like the Odyssey, Toyota not so much. 3.5 V6 the standard engine?
they are very nice.

yes to v6.

research transmission failures. There were some years that have issues, but they may be earlier than what you're looking at. IIRC it was like 05ish.
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Did the older Pre 07 3.2/3.5 Odessys have transmission issues like the cars do?

If you're good with a minivan then get a minivan. If you want something safer and much nicer to ride in but will cost a little more to maintain get the Volvo XC90 with a 3.2 or T5
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Did the older Pre 07 3.2/3.5 Odessys have transmission issues like the cars do?

If you're good with a minivan then get a minivan. If you want something safer and much nicer to ride in but will cost a little more to maintain get the Volvo XC90 with a 3.2 or T5
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A used Volvo? Ha.

Minivans are quite safe as well.

I know nothing of the mechanical changes from year to year on minivans, but they check all of your want/need boxes, especially with 3 kids.
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What year range?

the nicest one you can get with the money you have allocated for it.
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A used Volvo? Ha.
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I hear that quite a bit.

but I've got an 04 that was purchased 3 years and 40K ago in my driveway. It's never broken down or left us stranded, and it's been running 12PSI of boost (twice the factory tune) for the last two years.

my wife drives it daily. If she can't hurt it, no one with any mechanical sympathy can. She gives no fucks. Oh it's -10 and there's 12" of snow on the road? let me just fire it up and immediately hit 3 gears pulling out of the driveway in the snow. <- true story, watched her do it two weeks ago.

whiteblocks are solid. the aisin trans MAY become a problem, but they were fixed after 03, mostly. unless you neglect it, they are fine.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:03 PM   #58 (permalink)
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If you can find one, a first-gen (circa 1995-on) GM minivan:

- plastic body

- will take 3 car seats in the middle row plus two more out back.

- seats are individually removable and reconfigurable

- power sliding door

- bulletproof 3.8 GM fwd powertrain

- factory air shocks with self-leveling out back

- 22 mpg highway easy

Prolly cost like $2K, if that.
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If you can find one, a first-gen (circa 1995-on) GM minivan:

- plastic body

- will take 3 car seats in the middle row plus two more out back.

- seats are individually removable and reconfigurable

- power sliding door

- bulletproof 3.8 GM fwd powertrain

- factory air shocks with self-leveling out back

- 22 mpg highway easy

Prolly cost like $2K, if that.
Hahaha this ^^^^

Or an older Honda Odyssey. I work in an auto repair shop, and these seem to be the most reliable mini-vans on the road. I've seen a few smoked transmissions, but I think it's been due to poor maintenance. The 3.5L V6 is solid. Just make sure the valves are adjusted. And try to stay away from 2006+, or whenever they started adding cylinder deactivation. Seems to shorten the engine life in a big way (unless you're good about checking the oil level).

Personally, I say forget fuel economy. There are more important things. I'd prefer a Tahoe or Suburban with 4x4 and a proper frame.
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- factory air shocks with self-leveling out back
Sounds like it's got some good BDL potential.
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With a 70 mile round trip to work, some of that has to be highway. The 5.3 Suburbans can get around 20 on the road.
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With a 70 mile round trip to work, some of that has to be highway. The 5.3 Suburbans can get around 20 on the road.
My wife drives an Expedition. I was trying to decrease my Carbon Footprint



With that being said I could sell the XJ if I got a Tahoe/Suburban.
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With that being said I could sell the XJ if I got a Tahoe/Suburban.

I had a '99 tahoe as well as a '99 escalade. Both with the 5.7s. My commute is 36 miles of highway one way, every day. Neither of them ever got over 14.5 mpg over the 4 years of me driving them.

They sure were nice to drive but the mileage made me sell them.
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I had a '99 tahoe as well as a '99 escalade. Both with the 5.7s. My commute is 36 miles of highway one way, every day. Neither of them ever got over 14.5 mpg over the 4 years of me driving them.

They sure were nice to drive but the mileage made me sell them.

So yer saying I NEED a new supercrew F150?









Im gonna look hard at the mid 2000's Honda vans.
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Lexus LX470 will get you everything except the MPG. It's a landcruiser under the skin and will run forever. Probably only going to get 15-16mpg though.
I have one and he's right about the shit mileage. 12-13mpg if you put bigger tires on it.

I have 3 kids, 2 in wide car seats. My wife can ride in the back between them and not be terribly uncomfortable. The 3rd row is nice for when my inlaws want to come along. We did a trip to Monterey last month with the MIL and I took out one of the 3rd row seats. We had plenty of room for 2 suitcases and a stroller along with 3 adults and 3 kids.

They're fantastic vehicles and the AHC will amaze you at its ride quality. Issues with its durability are way overblown. The fluid has likely never been changed and when you finally do flush it the ride quality improves dramatically.
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RE: Carseats in an XJ

If you remove the rear seat's back cushion, it makes the baby seats fit much better. The seat cover zips off and the foam just has a bit of spray glue holding it in place. Easy to do if you unbolt it first. Easy to undo once they grow out of the baby seats.

This allows you to put car seats in without having to push the front seats way forward.
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If you remove the rear seat's back cushion, it makes the baby seats fit much better. The seat cover zips off and the foam just has a bit of spray glue holding it in place. Easy to do if you unbolt it first. Easy to undo once they grow out of the baby seats.

This allows you to put car seats in without having to push the front seats way forward.


I might just do that. Wont help with the width but the kid that not forward facing wont be all up in my arm rest.




So I drove a Odyssey over the weekend by chance. Its a van I guess. Had 210K miles and seemed to still have good power.



Whats the consensus on a Mazda 5? Are they as small as they look?
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Whats the consensus on a Mazda 5? Are they as small as they look?
Smaller.
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I figured as much.
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My brother has an '07 mercury Grand Marquis and loves it. He does very little in the way of maintenance, like almost none and beats the crap out of it. Only issues in 5 years and 100k were a coolant leak (I think it was the intake gasket), a set of brakes, a window regulator, and the ac quit working and he's too cheap to have it fixed. It's like doing 80mph in a lazy boy going down the highway. He never gets pulled over (he's a comedian in vegas and the cops just think it's an old person late for golf) or broken into either.


I went from daily driving a 4x4 TJ to a Ford focus with blizzaks doing 100 miles a day in the mountains. So far I haven't regretted not having 4x4/ awd. It's actually much better than driving the jeep and I have to look down and make sure I'm not doing 75mph in the snow where I would have been white knuckling it at 45mph in the TJ.

They are blowing out 2018's right now if you decide to go new. I got sick of working on junk to drive to work and decided my sanity was worth a car payment on something with a warranty to 125k.
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I just bought one of these to swap in the scout/Jeep. Supposedly designed to fit 3 wide in a small car. Probably cheaper to buy a new car than 3 of them though.

https://us.diono.com/product/radian-3-rxt/

Almost $1,000 for 3 car seats!
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Whatever you choose to buy, come south to get it. Screw MN and it's "rust is part of the premium package" ways...
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I figured as much.
Yup. We love the heck out of ours (2 kids in car seats right now). The 3rd row is great to use in a pinch, but you don't want to stuff a full sized adult back there for any length of time.

3 kids in car seats, no way. At least not something I would want to mess with every day:



Older pic, but here it is with one forward facing and one rear facing seat:


With the 3rd row folded flat, you can easily stuff a double jogging stroller into the rear of it.

I will say that for us with 2 kids, it has been the perfect kid hauler. I am hoping to find another low mileage one after we wear this one out in a couple more years (161k and counting).
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