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Old 02-15-2019, 06:06 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Look at lease returns. In the hospital setting I work, Dells seem to run forever, the HP's shit the bed in 3-4 years.
Yep, I've gotten some cool servers and enterprise storage gear like that.

I toss together a PC every few years, really no fawks given as I'm not a gamer and a sysadmin by day and get plenty of exposure to 'puters at the day job.

Sorry but no advice, except toss one together. It's a fairly brainless thing to do (mostly idiot proof).

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Old 02-15-2019, 06:17 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I'm doing light video editing on boards with on board video. Not into big transitions and shit yet. I let it render while I'm out doing something more interesting or at work.

No gaming here either.

Next build will have a dedicated video card.
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You will never use 64GB of RAM, total waste of money.
Lol. I regularly hit 50~ gigs rendering 4K or bigger footage once I get AE running on all cores. I try to leave a little for the OS to avoid teh blue screen. If OP wants to get serious with editing, I wouldn’t rule out 64g. I’m debating jumping to 128g...

Or he can just deal with 24+ hour sequence renders. My deadlines simply won’t allow for that though.
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I always build my own. For video editing your CPU and board are about as good as it gets unless you want to step up to Threadripper. Video card depends. Get the best your budget will allow. You can almost never have to much video card.
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I have 2 PCs, 3 Macs, and an ancient laptop running Ubuntu for downloading movies and software and I would choose Win 10 for productivity any day of the week.
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Ive built a few. GF has a photography business and we built her computer.

hers is
i5-5500k 150$
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If i could do it again...more rams and bigger ssds. Both our computers are capable of m.2 and thats the next step for us
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No one is building desktops? What are you, a fucking idiot? Oh, nevermind...

well some people are, but not as many percentage wise.. its like ford and cars.. they stopped making most models of cars, becuz most people want SUVs now.. its just what the demand is asking for.. sure its not a dead market, but it is a smaller market..
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Old 02-16-2019, 01:32 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I couldnt figure out how to make a poll... could someone make a poll post:
which would you prefer.. if you had the money

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Old 02-16-2019, 08:39 AM   #35 (permalink)
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well some people are, but not as many percentage wise.. its like ford and cars.. they stopped making most models of cars, becuz most people want SUVs now.. its just what the demand is asking for.. sure its not a dead market, but it is a smaller market..
I think you would be very wrong. Just because you and the few people around you want laptops does not mean no one build desktops anymore. The gaming world doesn't give a fuck about laptops and only uses them when they have to. Most of us are smart enough to realize that a $3k "gaming laptop" is a scam when compared to an overclocked and water cooled desktop. Competition overclockers don't care about laptops, custom builders don't care about laptops, etc. We all have them and use them when necessary, but if I am home and wanting to game or even surf the Internet, I am here in my desk chair at my desktop. I have 4 or 5 fairly modern laptops around here but I dread turning them on since I rarely use them and I know the first hour of them being on is going to be burned up updating Windows or some other stupid shit.

Now people in business, traveling, school, etc, yeah they are all about laptops because they are more convenient for them. But the PC parts industry is pretty strong right now and that can only come from people building and buying pre-built desktop systems. Personally, I fucking hate a slow-ass laptop. And I despise working on them. I have a nice, year old Dell with an i7 and AMD graphics that like to eat HDDs for whatever reason and constantly gets the Windows 10 boot loop. I am beyond tired of taking all the screws out of this fucking piece of shit.
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Personally I would like to have a decent desk top unit with lots of memory, that would allow me to use the laptop for what it is supposed to be a portable computer not tied down to my desk.
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Old 02-16-2019, 10:09 AM   #37 (permalink)
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I build my own but the workstation idea looks like a good bet when my dad needs a new computer.

I use my laptop when traveling, at home I'm on a desktop.
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Used to build PCs regularly. Haven't built anything other than my htpc in the last 5 years.

I get good bang-for-buck using yesterday's workstation-grade hardware. Also by stepping away from Windows and use Linux. (Ubuntu Mate right now.)

Do you really need to handle HD and 4k video for youtube vids?
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Competition overclockers.

That's a thing? I had to google....

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Look at lease returns. In the hospital setting I work, Dells seem to run forever, the HP's shit the bed in 3-4 years.
See them all the time just not sure what is a good buy or not. Haven't had a desk top since 2007 right now I am using a $100 HP laptop running W-7 with a tiny 12 inch screen feeding it to a 23 inch monitor, using a USB keyboard and mouse.
I haven't put together one since 1986 when I was in school, and we were putting them together for the computer school.
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I've always built my boxes. One thing no one seems to have mentioned is get as much RAM as there are slots. After a while you always want more RAM. Sort of like compressed air.
I use Intel and not AMD.
I also run Linux and not Windows as do the vast majority of servers in the world. BTW, I'm paid to keep ~700 servers running and have been doing computer nonsense since the early 80s.
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We all have them and use them when necessary, but if I am home and wanting to game or even surf the Internet, I am here in my desk chair at my desktop. I have 4 or 5 fairly modern laptops around here but I dread turning them on since I rarely use them and I know the first hour of them being on is going to be burned up updating Windows or some other stupid shit.
let me see if I got this right..
you have one desktop that you praise
and 4 or 5 modern laptops..

and you are trying to say that the desktop market is stronger?
even you have a ratio of 1-5..

you funny
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Old 02-16-2019, 11:33 PM   #43 (permalink)
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let me see if I got this right..
you have one desktop that you praise
and 4 or 5 modern laptops..

and you are trying to say that the desktop market is stronger?
even you have a ratio of 1-5..

you funny


Ever tried upgrading a laptop? It may be possible but it sure as hell is a nightmare to do a new chip since they're soldered.

Anybody that needs to do more than run office still has a desktop. They just stay relevant way longer since you can swap the board, chips, add 6 hdd's, etc.

The new desktop I built for my wife is stupid fast and won't be out of date for a few years for her purposes. When she needs it I'll pull out the ryzen 3 and put in a current gen ryzen 7 in a couple years to boost the speeds back up. The beauty of AMD support, they don't make you buy a new mb every time you want a new CPU.
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Ever tried upgrading a laptop? It may be possible but it sure as hell is a nightmare to do a new chip since they're soldered.
YES..

we used to take them apart, fix them, and put em back together.. but that has been a while..
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let me see if I got this right..
you have one desktop that you praise
and 4 or 5 modern laptops..

and you are trying to say that the desktop market is stronger?
even you have a ratio of 1-5..

you funny
And you are stupid. I got most of those worthless things in trade for building people desktops. I've tried selling all of them on Ebay and no one wants them for a fair price, so I kept them and occasionally let friends and family borrow them when I work on their computer if they need one that bad.

And I never said anything about what market was stronger, just that you were ridiculously wrong with your retarded statement that "no one builds desktops anymore".

Start thinking more about what is coming out of your mouth instead of putting words in mine.
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My wife was given an old desktop a couple years ago and all I really know about it is it doesn't have enough ram so it's slow as all fuck. It could probably use more than that but I'm not a computer guy.

If I found some specs on it and snapped a pic of the board to see what it has for expansion slots can someone hold my hand long enough for me to know what to order?
If its a name brand, you can go to https://www.crucial.com/ and pick the make/model and it will tell you what you need.
They also have a program that you can download that does everything for you. Then you can post their results on here, or match them on Amazon.

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most of those worthless things in trade
no one wants them for a fair price

yet you still try and sell them for too much, on ebay

I was wrong, I admit it.. you are not funny... you are just a jack-ass
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most of those worthless things in trade
no one wants them for a fair price

yet you still try and sell them for too much, on ebay

I was wrong, I admit it.. you are not funny... you are just a jack-ass
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Having a discussion with you is like arguing with someone who has a 3 word vocabulary. I might be a jackass, but you are simpleton moron who obviously is blissfully unaware of exactly how fucking stupid you really are.
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Ever tried upgrading a laptop? It may be possible but it sure as hell is a nightmare to do a new chip since they're soldered.
I agree this ArTi54N fella is off in his own bubble, but that blanket statement about laptops with soldered CPUs is far from my experience.

I paid the rent building and fixing PCs between grad school and my first "real job." I only came across a few laptops with a soldered CPU, and they were usually fairly budget models. All the mainstream Dells, Lenovos, Gateways, HPs, and Toshibas I had to go that deep into had socketed CPUS.

I have a bad habit of taking old laptops that are "obsolete" cheap and/or free, and upgrading them with whatever the highest end compatible CPU I can find on eBay is, maxing the RAM, and sticking an SSD in it. A 5-8 year old laptop then becomes comparable to a low end modern laptop.
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