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Old 02-15-2019, 06:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm in the planning stages of building. I'm waiting on material lists to be completed. Looking at a contractor to do most. I want to do some stuff, that I can do.
What are things to watch out for, when dealing with a contractor?
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:01 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I'm in the planning stages of building. I'm waiting on material lists to be completed. Looking at a contractor to do most. I want to do some stuff, that I can do.
What are things to watch out for, when dealing with a contractor?
A good contractor isn't going to be cheap, but is worth every penny. Find someone with a history and roots in your area. Spend the time to see what permits they have pulled and talk to some customers. The best guys won't tell you what you want to hear, but give you realistic time frame that will be longer than you want and cost more than you think it should. Lots of contractors move around every few years after they burned a lot of bridges in a state. Be wary of the guy that seems to say yes to whatever you want.

I'm lucky and live in small town, and now enough people I can find out about someone pretty easily. We still do business with a handshake, but don't dare screw anyone unless you plan on moving. I don't have problems finding subs because I hire good people and and I don't bitch when I write them a check. I also listen to what my subs have to say. And don't try to spec all the materials, ask the builder if what you have lined up ok and don't be surprised if they don't some of the stuff the building center wants to sell.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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A good contractor isn't going to be cheap, but is worth every penny. Find someone with a history and roots in your area. Spend the time to see what permits they have pulled and talk to some customers. The best guys won't tell you what you want to hear, but give you realistic time frame that will be longer than you want and cost more than you think it should. Lots of contractors move around every few years after they burned a lot of bridges in a state. Be wary of the guy that seems to say yes to whatever you want.

I'm lucky and live in small town, and now enough people I can find out about someone pretty easily. We still do business with a handshake, but don't dare screw anyone unless you plan on moving. I don't have problems finding subs because I hire good people and and I don't bitch when I write them a check. I also listen to what my subs have to say. And don't try to spec all the materials, ask the builder if what you have lined up ok and don't be surprised if they don't some of the stuff the building center wants to sell.
The guy I'm talking has lived in the are most of my life. He married a girl that lives here, so he isn't one of those that moves around. He has customers I can talk to.
As you guys are saying, 10 years and the house is falling apart. I don't want that. I even told the banker and the builder, I plan on growing old in this house. So I want it to be easy on maintenance and not have subpar building.
Some stuff I want to spend the money up front like on windows.
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Old 02-15-2019, 07:59 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I'm in the planning stages of building. I'm waiting on material lists to be completed. Looking at a contractor to do most. I want to do some stuff, that I can do.
What are things to watch out for, when dealing with a contractor?
I have one more story to share that pertains to the question you have asked then I’ll shut up. . When I worked with my dad when I was younger. There was one general dad did foundations for. Dad said one day. If I was going to have anyone build me a home it would be Roy. I asked why? He said, Roy does everything right or not at all. Roy built starter homes. Dad did foundations for the best custom home builders in the county and would have Roy build his house! Now fast forward a few years and I’m framing and doing finish work. We had a few days in between houses so my boss tells this guy I know pretty good we will trim out a tri level he has built on spec in between big ass custom homes he usually builds. I’m working in the third level and call my boss down to show him something. They had put the fucking glue lam beam in upside down. I then walked over and slid open one of the windows and the sliding section fell out. They had hung the fucking window upside down and the house had been sided already. It was the single pane window to boot that was supposed to go in the garage. Mind you this guy had homes in the home show every year! He had all the custom home work he could handle until he died of cancer in his fifty’s. People just assumed because he had homes in the home shows they were getting a top notch builder. I wouldn’t have let him build a fucking dog house for me! Be careful who you hire to build your house. Paying more doesn’t always equate to getting a better built home. Educate yourself on what to look for. Then walk thru homes that are being built by the guy you are considering. It’s your money and you are gonna live there possibly for the rest of your life. If he is trying to steer you towards thicker walls and as energy efficient furnace and ac as you can afford. That might be your guy. He makes no more money with you going this route. Than 2x4 walls and an 80 percent efficient furnace. Sure you will pay more for 2x6 walls and a better furnace and ac unit. But he isn’t pocketing anymore on the deal.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:18 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I build high end residential homes for a living. It's my dad brother and myself. We d
Sub out several things because the homes we generally do are big but also do a lot on our own. It's not and easy way to do business it's much more profitable to sub everything out and just take on more jobs. But I love finish work and it makes my job enjoyable. Happy to answer anything I could be of help with.
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Old 02-18-2019, 09:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I have been a home builder the last 2 years. To be fair, it is my home. My inspector is begging me to start building in my area. He writes on my inspections it is the best built house he has seen and well above code. Has never written that for anyone else and he has been doing this a long time.


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Old 02-18-2019, 10:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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im planning on building my next home largely myself with subs.

Passive house.
Advanced framing.
Spray foam
LVL studs
radiant Flooring

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Old 02-18-2019, 10:46 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I'll be happy if I never touch a piece of wood again, haha.

Scary shit. They build fences out of that stuff.
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Im curious to see (in my lifetime) what all these pile of shit houses look like in 20 years. David weekly, DR horton, etc assemble nothing but junk. Ready made slums.

In central TX the trend is to build the shittiest post tension slab and every 2x4 must have no less than 20 nails on each end. I know a lot of Mexican babysitters for said companies. All they do is bitch about cutting ever corner to save money.

Its all subs to the cheapest bid, theres no more craftsmans. The only decent builds i see are 100 y/o renovations because people are spending money for quality work. Not seeing how fast they can dry one in.
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go look at a house built in the 90's for what they will look like in 20 years, same/similar crap was going on then. the shit ass houses hold up alright, on the plus side many things get remodeled more often so it is no big loss.

disposable society, every time the house is sold it will get new paint and new floors and a new kitchen because 'that is where the money is'
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I lived in a house built in 1900. I had to drill into studs just to either hammer a nail or drive a screw into it. super tough stuff.
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I lived in a house built in 1900. I had to drill into studs just to either hammer a nail or drive a screw into it. super tough stuff.
As the studs age they get way harder. Torn down a few barns that were almost that old. Damn saw would hardly cut that stuff. My dad told me when they were learning to build from their dad. (He was a general contractor) That labor was cheap. Materials were expensive. So they took there time and did quality work.
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That labor was cheap. Materials were expensive. So they took there time and did quality work.
This. Now that labor is expensive they cut every corner then can to minimize how much they need.
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