Originally Posted by Mighty Mats
Lets start a debate. Thoughts?
Ok, Iíll give you my thoughts on it. I donít know you, so Iím assuming youíre a typical pirate guy. If youíre a typical San Diegan, this will seem like the rantings of a lunatic.
Tinker is on the east side of OKC. Highways heading out of OKC in each direction will have some traffic to deal with. Not like youíre used to, but there will be sections of 15mph traffic going each direction. Except east. Development isnít as heavy out there, so the commute seems to happen at better speeds.
Okís ďnatural beautyĒ is on a West to East gradient. The panhandle is just as ugly as western Kansas, but drier. The east part of the state is just as pretty as western Arkansas. Everything in between is, well, in between. But I-35 works as a pretty decent treeline. East of there has far more trees. So, on the west side of town, a wooded lot commands a huge premium. On the east side of town, thatís the majority of whatís available.
If youíre a lake person, you pretty much have to live on the east side. Choctaw would give you about a 2 hour commute to Tenkiller lake, which is quite pretty. Iím on the west side, so it would be a touch over 3 hours for me. Thatís the difference between buying a boat or not to me, so I donít have one. Also from Choctaw, Lake Thunderbird is about 15 min away. Itís a legendarily dirty lake, and everyone in the area turns their noses up at it. And theyíre full of shit. Itís a normal dirty OK lake, nothing worse than other lakes that people drive hours to (Grand Lake, for instance).
There are lots of older houses in the Choctaw area that are on acreages without a HOA. Thatís good and bad, obviously. And each situation will be controlled by the immediate neighbors. As in, a good buddy of mine had a nice house out there on 3 acres. While he was trying to sell the place, he put in a 8í privacy fence to block the neighbors. You could still see all the meth-inspired hillbilly shit they did. As in, the guy 2 houses down decided he wanted a swimming pool. So he hand-dug a 2í deep x 15í diameter hole, and threw a black rubber liner down in it. He used the piled up dirt to hold the liner in place. So, it was a well-sorted plan, obviously. After a couple months, he tired of his pool. So he and his family decided they would use it to bury trash. Last time I saw it old furniture and stuff was piled 6í deep in his 2í pool. Pretty nice. If my buddyís place wouldíve been Ĺ mile down the road, everything was well kept and nice.
For shopping, in a town like Choctaw, you wouldnít have a lot of options. Most things you would be driving back to the Tinker area to do. There are a couple restaurants, thatís it. It IS growing out there, so that will be fixed probably in the next several years. But for now, I think youíd be a bit ahead of the investment curve. Thatís based on no data at all, just the fact that traffic out there seems to flow well, so I think people will start moving that way. They're also putting in a N/S turnpike through Choctaw that will allow easy access from there to Tulsa. Be wary of that--you'd hate to find a quiet place just to find out they're getting ready to build a highway in your backyard. Proper planning for it will make it that much easier to get to Disney.
I think youíd figure out in a 30 minute drive around whether you liked the area. Itís possible to find places that are completely wooded, itís possible to find nice shop buildings, and itís possible to get away from people. All at a bargain. If youíre more the in-towner type, youíd hate it.