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Old 03-01-2019, 07:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The winning ticket was sold at the KC Mart in Simpsonville sometime between Oct. 20 and the drawing at 11 p.m. on Oct. 23. Store employee Jee Patel said State Law Enforcement Division agents were waiting in the parking lot when workers came to open at 6 a.m. the next day.

"We didn't even know we sold the winner yet," Patel said, adding agents immediately took the surveillance tapes away. "We haven't seen them. I don't know when we sold it or who we sold it to."

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Back in Simpsonville, theories continue to swirl. Lloyd Hall cuts hair in town. He heard one rumor that the winner worked at a large transmission plant miles (kilometers) away but is now just waiting because he doesn't want co-workers to know. Another rumor has it that an office pool at the plant bought the ticket but now they're arguing while lawyers negotiate.
Would they take the tapes for the safety of the winner? With such a wide date range of when the ticket was sold it would be hard to track down all the buyers.
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My B-I-L told me about the unclaimed ticket.

My first thought was the buyer was in Witness Protection and the Feds swooped in and pulled the evidence to keep the identity a secret.

Second thought was the buyer want Wanted and the Feds are on the hunt.
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It's silly for us to make assumptions.

It's also alarming that I distrust their motives. Even though I figure it's more likely that they did it for good reasons.
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My B-I-L told me about the unclaimed ticket.

My first thought was the buyer was in Witness Protection and the Feds swooped in and pulled the evidence to keep the identity a secret.

Second thought was the buyer want Wanted and the Feds are on the hunt.
And exactly how would they know who the winner was unless the winner themselves told them?
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It's silly for us to make assumptions.

It's also alarming that I distrust their motives. Even though I figure it's more likely that they did it for good reasons.
Really? Would you believe that the government knowingly and intentionally poisoned citizens?
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Wouldn't they need a judge to sign off on the seizure of the tapes even if they were members of a winning ticket pool?
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Really? Would you believe that the government knowingly and intentionally poisoned citizens?
Like the Gov't has never done that
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Wouldn't they need a judge to sign off on the seizure of the tapes even if they were members of a winning ticket pool?

No.

Anyone, officers included, can walk up and request the tapes. No warrant necessary to casually ask. Also no reason to just hand them over other if there was no warrant.

"I have the right to remain silent"
"come back with a warrant"

two things every American needs to remember.
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I'm pretty sure those tickets are stamped with an exact date and time when sold. At worst they would only have to check out the 1-5 people in the store at the time it was purchased.
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Really? Would you believe that the government knowingly and intentionally poisoned citizens?
I would be willing to accept that a select few individuals who hold government positions would involve themselves in such matters. Sure.
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I'm pretty sure those tickets are stamped with an exact date and time when sold. At worst they would only have to check out the 1-5 people in the store at the time it was purchased.
TANGENT WARNING!!!

Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
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TANGENT WARNING!!!

Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
I couldn't imagine any explanation anyone gives is rooted in first hand knowledge. Isn't that going to depend on state and county?

I know what you're saying though. It's a good question. I just don't think you'll ever get a definitive answer.
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From what i read off that the .gov did not knowingly poison people, they just didnt treat them.
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From what i read off that the .gov did not knowingly poison people, they just didnt treat them.
Then keep reading...
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I would be willing to accept that a select few individuals who hold government positions would involve themselves in such matters. Sure.
Wrong....
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Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know...
Aren't those machines electronically set-up digitally for better transmission(s) ??

The voting stuff is a totally different animal with mailed in votes, chad, lever, & electronic... The tally has to be added at end of day which is a joke. The counters go like "let's see... 32,786...32,787...32,788... 32,7 ah erm, oh fudge !! :takes deep breath: ...1... 2... 3... 4.....
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Smallpox blankets?
Were not a purposeful attempt at germ warfare. Nobody at that time had any idea that about immunities be built up by having been exposed before.
People need to quit judging what has happened in the past by todays standards
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Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
Um - private sector vs public sector?
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TANGENT WARNING!!!

Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
because they are only sold through one avenue (the lottery machine) whereas voting takes place through several different methods (absentee, voting machines, manual ballots, and places without internet)
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Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
You must buy a lottery ticket from a machine. You cannot absentee purchase a lottery ticket. The organization running the thing doesn't send out flyers or forms to fill out, pick your numbers, then mail in like the electoral process does.
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TANGENT WARNING!!!

Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
Because its designed to be slow, and unreliable. Electronic voting could be just as accurate, just as fast and just as reliable, but accurate, fast and reliable are code words for voter suppression.
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Really? Would you believe that the government knowingly and intentionally poisoned citizens?

Nope! They would never do that. Downwinders in Utah, me probably being one to some extent. No they wouldn’t do that....ever! Hundreds of sheep drop over dead in the weastern Utah desert. Close to a army base that is making top secret nerve agents. Those stupid fucking sheep ate some kind of poison plant and all died at once. Government never did fease up to that one. Rancher was quietly paid off and they sent guys out in fancy suits and quickly buried them. Nope, nothing to see here. Move along sheeple.
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Can somebody explain to me how the lottery / powerball agencies can know exactly how many tickets were purchase, where the purchase was made, how many winners, etc. almost instantaneously when the numbers are drawn YET any time we have a election it takes a solid day or more to get a final count on votes.
Because then they couldn't keep finding Democrat ballots in trunks of cars and stock rooms until they squeaked out a .5% lead, like clockwork

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