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Old 04-15-2019, 12:13 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Pirate fake news, France recently passed very tough immigration laws. The French police are brutal...
After the fact. They've screwed themselves already.
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They give very harsh talking to's?
Maybe... Actually without the help of the French about 245 years ago there would be no USA...So be nice to the frogs...
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Maybe... Actually without the help of the French about 245 years ago there would be no USA...So be nice to the frogs...
As well as 150 years ago.


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Maybe... Actually without the help of the French about 245 years ago there would be no USA...So be nice to the frogs...
Only people deeply ignorant of French history make such jokes. France has kicked butt militarily for millennia... With some exceptions.
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Actually without the help of the French about 245 years ago there would be no USA...
Don't forget Casmir Pulaski the Polish General that helped/saved George Washington-
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Actually without the help of the French about 245 years ago there would be no USA...
Yep, they helped us tell the king to fuck off
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Don't forget Casmir Pulaski the Polish General that helped/saved George Washington-
The (utterly forgotten) Spanish help to the American rebels:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_...olutionary_War
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Only people deeply ignorant of French history make such jokes. France has kicked butt militarily for millennia... With some exceptions.
Those exceptions being the most recent and applicable.
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Only people deeply ignorant of French history make such jokes. France has kicked butt militarily for millennia... With some exceptions.
Panties...grab a hand full and give a yank.
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news update: as the fire progressed, many french fire fighters have determined to become fire sympathizers. Names will be taken and all that.
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Those exceptions being the most recent and applicable.
You are very selective. Can you list a single nation that did well against the Germans in 1939-1941? The Brits survived because they had a very wide moat patrolled by the Royal Navy. The Soviets survived because they could retreat for thousands of miles before they could get their act together. France didn't have those advantages.

How is it that the French killed more Germans in 1940 than the Poles did in 1939, yet everyone praises the heroic Polish resistance and people laugh at the French?
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You are very selective. Can you list a single nation that did well against the Germans in 1939-1941? The Brits survived because they had a very wide moat patrolled by the Royal Navy. The Soviets survived because they could retreat for thousands of miles before they could get their act together. France didn't have those advantages.

How is it that the French killed more Germans in 1940 than the Poles did in 1939, yet everyone praises the heroic Polish resistance and people laugh at the French?
The capitulation of of 1/2 of France in WW2 is all many people see....The Brits were saved by Hitler and druggie Goering bad decisions..
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You are very selective. Can you list a single nation that did well against the Germans in 1939-1941? The Brits survived because they had a very wide moat patrolled by the Royal Navy. The Soviets survived because they could retreat for thousands of miles before they could get their act together. France didn't have those advantages.

How is it that the French killed more Germans in 1940 than the Poles did in 1939, yet everyone praises the heroic Polish resistance and people laugh at the French?
Vichy France much?
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Vichy France much?
I suggest you read how the North East states behaved under British occupation during the revolutionary and 1812 wars... Something about glass houses and stones.
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I suggest you read how the North East states behaved under British occupation during the revolutionary and 1812 wars... Something about glass houses and stones.
I suggest you try to draw a correlation that actually applies or, in the least, appears to.
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Vichy France much?
Yes, but it was half the country...A political decision, not the decision of the all the military and people... The French had a military force equal to the Germans but they also had bad leadership....The ghost of loosing nearly a million men in WW1 was haunting...
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You are very selective. Can you list a single nation that did well against the Germans in 1939-1941? The Brits survived because they had a very wide moat patrolled by the Royal Navy. The Soviets survived because they could retreat for thousands of miles before they could get their act together. France didn't have those advantages.

How is it that the French killed more Germans in 1940 than the Poles did in 1939, yet everyone praises the heroic Polish resistance and people laugh at the French?
Stereotypes: Polack Jokes vs. French Jokes.

One is about stupit
One is about surrendering, retreating, being snobby assholes.

You know the answer here... c'mon. is it fair? who knows.
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I suggest you try to draw a correlation that actually applies or, in the least, appears to.
A very large portion of the population happily collaborated with the occupying British during both wars. New Yorkers were quite sad to see the British go in 1783. At least the French were mortified to be occupied by the Nazis.
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Yes, but it was half the country...A political decision, not the decision of the all the military and people... The French had a military force equal to the Germans but they also had bad leadership....The ghost of loosing nearly a million men in WW1 was haunting...
it's a little more complex than that. ie-benedict darlan

there are a lot of reasons for the stereotype of france and dismissing them via attempts to show "good" things belies the attempted point of ignorance
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A very large portion of the population happily collaborated with the occupying British during both wars. New Yorkers were quite sad to see the British go in 1783. At least the French were mortified to be occupied by the Nazis.
so, you equate a population that is a colony of a country to one that was invaded by another country as some sort of correlation?

I mean, come on, at least reach into the Civil War as an attempt if you need to try to use a straw man
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You are very selective. Can you list a single nation that did well against the Germans in 1939-1941? The Brits survived because they had a very wide moat patrolled by the Royal Navy. The Soviets survived because they could retreat for thousands of miles before they could get their act together. France didn't have those advantages.

How is it that the French killed more Germans in 1940 than the Poles did in 1939, yet everyone praises the heroic Polish resistance and people laugh at the French?
All I read was Germany was engaged in multiple fronts against many nations and France surrendered. Squarehead > frog.
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it's a little more complex than that. ie-benedict darlan
Petain/Darlan/Laval/etc. were trying to save what they could from a disaster. It all ended very badly, but it was not their intention to surrender the nation to the Nazis. Laval in particular was considered to be a rabid anti-Nazi before the war. Darlan, in the end, scuttled the French fleet rather than turning it over to the Nazis. They were dealt shitty cards and made shitty decisions.


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there are a lot of reasons for the stereotype of france and dismissing them via attempts to show "good" things belies the attempted point of ignorance
That particular stereotype ignores the long history that France had as the dominant military power in Europe for centuries, longer than any other European nation I can think of.

Going back to Vichy - How many nations are there that wouldn't have large segments of their population go full Quisling if invaded by a foreign power?
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Wondering what caused the fire, on Holy Week, of all times. Maybe a mouse chewed an electrical wire, or someone sneezed too hard next to the dried wood. Or, maybe a cigarette, or maybe a spark from the renovations. Hard to believe that it hasn't burned to the ground already like so many historical buildings of centuries past have... Ok, ya'll can go on bickering about what France does and does not do militarily again.

Edit: or maybe Ghost decided to walk into the building. *shrug*
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