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Old 04-23-2019, 12:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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This mothfukkle needs to be spoon fed and I ain't gonna do the work to link his friendly local hardware store when 4 seconds on google found that kit.
Hold on. That clearly says "a must for serious competitors". That ain't the OP.

If only there was a drag racing forum to ask.

Maybe the syrup suckers can add a one.


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I'd start with less boost, then maybe some smaller headers.


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Glue them to the rim with windshield sealant, the black stuff. Probably never get them back off
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Old school is set screws through the rims but theres a lot of better things today like internal bead locks.
I still got that method going on with my drag car......because walker evens beadlocks look strange!
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I wonder if the OP is wearing the right kind of shoes?
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Fill the tire with water, then freeze the tires. The ice will secure the tire to the rim, and the ice crystals are self balancing. Plus, the added unsprung weight increases traction on launch.
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Glue them to the rim with windshield sealant, the black stuff. Probably never get them back off
Hey look, an actual answer to a tech thread in chit chat.
Yes, windshield glue is what a lot of people use, beware, your tire guy will hate you as they are a bitch to take off.
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Glue them to the rim with windshield sealant, the black stuff. Probably never get them back off
I am not going to screw these tires to the wheels, unless nothing else works. Most guys are saying that you don't screw radials, that is for bias ply.

The windshield adhesive sounds like the best idea so far. Has anyone heard of using Windex? That sounds weird to me, but who knows?
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I wonder if the OP is wearing the right kind of shoes?
No, he is not.
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Yep, used to do that.

Also, dismount the tire and where the bead rides on the rim take a center punch and knurl the area all the way around the rim, inside and outside bead area.
takes a long time but it works.
This is what I was thinking about doing after I remove the powder coat. Sounds pretty time consuming, and I don't have my slave, er uh son over this week.
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Instead of a punch, why not use a chisel? More of a knurled effect and would go a little faster.
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1 wrap of duct tape on the wheel bead surface.
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Yes, windshield glue is what a lot of people use, beware, your tire guy will hate you as they are a bitch to take off.
Roofing adhesive from the Homodepots if you don't want to spend as much.
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Instead of a punch, why not use a chisel? More of a knurled effect and would go a little faster.
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1 wrap of duct tape on the wheel bead surface.
It seems like the tape would be slick and make the tire slip just as easily, but you aren't the first person to suggest this. I just can't wrap my brain around it, which isn't surprising.
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Duct tape is an old snow wheeling trick.
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It seems like the tape would be slick and make the tire slip just as easily, but you aren't the first person to suggest this. I just can't wrap my brain around it, which isn't surprising.
I was going to suggest this, I think its overkill. 2-3 wraps work like beadlocks in the snow. When you mount the tire, it smushes the tape and makes it sticky. Plus slightly increases the diameter of the wheel making the tire fit very tight.

Honestly, I would just strip the powder coat and rough the wheel up. Maybe windex or wd40 when mounting. It seems like if it's only slipping a little, it won't take much.

That said, my drag racing knowledge accumulates up to watching street out laws every now and then
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Removing the coating and sanding may be all you need to do. If you want to glue then use Permatex Hi Tack, or if you want you can simply try Hair spray.
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i know this is ghetto as fawk, but I use berrymans carb cleaner. it kind of melts the rubber and vulcanized it to the rim.
I use this for installing/removing atv and dirt bike grips. Works great.

I would carpet-bomb the situation if I were you. Remove powder coat, peen the wheel with a punch or chissel, and spray the shit out of it with old school carb cleaner.
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Instead of a punch, why not use a chisel? More of a knurled effect and would go a little faster.
Or use a air needle scaler alot faster https://www.harborfreight.com/compac...ler-96997.html
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I use this for installing/removing atv and dirt bike grips. Works great.

I would carpet-bomb the situation if I were you. Remove powder coat, peen the wheel with a punch or chissel, and spray the shit out of it with old school carb cleaner.
Actually, plain old gasoline is what we always used for motorcycle grips.
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Not matching shoe and car color is asking for ALOT of trouble


I'm surprised I haven't thought of this excuse yet for why my car is slow


Sorry nothing useful to add that hasn't been mentioned. Now I need to mark mine to check, lol.
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Instead of a punch, why not use a chisel? More of a knurled effect and would go a little faster.
I ended up using my automatic center punch. Part of the reason is because the punch marks are a uniform depth, and it was also easier than messing around with a hammer. Also, I thought the chisel might end up creating air leak grooves. I think too much sometimes.

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Duct tape is an old snow wheeling trick.
I just can't bring myself to do the tape. I like to pretend I'm not totally redneck at the track.

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Honestly, I would just strip the powder coat and rough the wheel up. Maybe windex or wd40 when mounting. It seems like if it's only slipping a little, it won't take much.
From the feedback I'm getting on FB, it's not slipping a little. Some guys were amazed that my beads haven't ripped apart yet.

In the end, I did exactly as you described, with a little bit extra. I removed the powder coat with a wire brush mounted on a drill. Oh my aching wrists!! Got the powder coat off and then hit it lightly with a 60 grit flapper wheel to rough up the bead surfaces. Then I used the automatic center punch to create a "knurl" across the outer edge of the bead sealing area every inch or so. By the time I was done, my wrists and my right elbow were toast. I'm an old man who lives in a cubicle, so you would probably call me a pussy. Time constraints and travel for work, along with a double header race this Saturday and Sunday mandate that I got the job done tonight. I did the best I could.

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Removing the coating and sanding may be all you need to do. If you want to glue then use Permatex Hi Tack, or if you want you can simply try Hair spray.
I'm going to try the Windex trick.

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Not matching shoe and car color is asking for ALOT of trouble


I'm surprised I haven't thought of this excuse yet for why my car is slow


Sorry nothing useful to add that hasn't been mentioned. Now I need to mark mine to check, lol.
My buddy suggested it to me, so I made a dot next to the valve stem with dial in paint. They moved on every hit. I tried adding air pressure, but that didn't help and I just spun the tire worse.

As much as these guys tease you, I can see the benefit of racing shoes. I just can't bring myself to buy them after all of the shit you got here!

After inspecting the tires and wheels when I picked them up today, I realized there was a lot of residual lube on the wheels. I'm not sure, but it kinda seemed like silicone based lube. I suspect that the excess lube was a big part of the problem. Here are the wheels all ready to have the tires remounted. This is as good as it's gonna get unless they spin this weekend. At that point I will be considering an upgrade to the rear wheels.






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