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Old 04-24-2019, 03:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Are KYB shocks still shit?

Wife's 2002 Acura MDX has 200k on it and both rear shocks are leaking. I can get a pair of KYB Excel-G's for $70 shipped to the house, but I had KYB Gas-a-just's on some vehicles back in the day and wasn't impressed.

Will likely keep this thing only about another 6 months, so don't want to dump a bunch of money in it, but also don't want the factory ride quality changed.

Or other alternatives?
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With 200k and 20 y/o you have no "factory" ride quality.

Just buy the cheap shit if its getting sold
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With 200k and 20 y/o you have no "factory" ride quality.

Just buy the cheap shit if its getting sold
That car is amazing. Replaced all the control arm bushings last year, and it rode like a brand new car...at least till the rear shocks went south. It doesn't rattle or squeak, and all the electrical stuff still works fine. The only thing we've done to it is fluid changes, and the control arm bushings.
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KYB Excel-G's ?
The GR2/Excel-G are NOT the low end gas-a-just units. The GR2 and the AGX are the more aggressively valved units. I have a set on both my offroad forester, my stock/DD camry, and a set of the AGX were on the FXT before I went full coilovers. Never had a problem and the set on the camry have a good 40k on them and still working great.
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Cheapest shocks give the best ride quality. Anything else is "sporty" and rides like shit.
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Throw some Monroe’s on it.
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The GR2/Excel-G are NOT the low end gas-a-just units. The GR2 and the AGX are the more aggressively valved units. I have a set on both my offroad forester, my stock/DD camry, and a set of the AGX were on the FXT before I went full coilovers. Never had a problem and the set on the camry have a good 40k on them and still working great.
Wait a minute. Gas a just are the mono tubes. Gr2 are the stiff valved twin tubes.
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Just tossed a set of these on my 08 pilot. Ride is great and got rid of a bit of rear end sag also.

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Wait a minute. Gas a just are the mono tubes. Gr2 are the stiff valved twin tubes.
The Excel-G's are OE valving according to the KYB site.

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Just tossed a set of these on my 08 pilot. Ride is great and got rid of a bit of rear end sag also.

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Don't think I need those. It's usually just her in it, although like most women there's always a good amount of shit stored in the back, in the rear seats, on the floor, etc. Or like yesterday she loaded up 700lbs worth of feed and pine pellets from tractor supply. I was like, "Uh, honey we do have a pickup truck you know."
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The Excel-G's are OE valving according to the KYB site.
but notice how it says they compensate for wear, so they are more stiffly valved. high pressure mono tubes will have a better ride vs a stiff valved twin tube. mono tubes are also more expensive.
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and if you really want close to oe ride, get monotubes and a new set of coil springs. the springs should be sub 100 dollars a set for moogs.
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but notice how it says they compensate for wear, so they are more stiffly valved. high pressure mono tubes will have a better ride vs a stiff valved twin tube. mono tubes are also more expensive.
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Don't think I need those. It's usually just her in it, although like most women there's always a good amount of shit stored in the back, in the rear seats, on the floor, etc. Or like yesterday she loaded up 700lbs worth of feed and pine pellets from tractor supply. I was like, "Uh, honey we do have a pickup truck you know."
wife came home with 5 bags of mulch and 2 huge planters in the back seat of the ultima...

on a regular basis she has potting soil, etc in the back..

i told her she needs a truck more than i do
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wife came home with 5 bags of mulch and 2 huge planters in the back seat of the ultima...

on a regular basis she has potting soil, etc in the back..

i told her she needs a truck more than i do
Sounds about right.
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. . . 5 bags of mulch and 2 huge planters . . .
Needs 3/4 ton pickup, possibly deezul

EDIT: oh, and ginormous tow mirrors
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I put some of the cheaper KYB Gas-A-Justs on my DD Durango about 1 1/2 years ago and they ride good.
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I always vote monotone. I installed a few kyb struts in the day. They were cheapish and did well enough for street driving. Better than gas adjust imo. They were usually light blue if that tells you model.
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I put KYB's on my Tacoma 2WD and was happy. I think it was sub $120 for all 4.

I also have Bilstein and OME on my 4runner and while they are nice think I vastly overpaid for a name given what I use the vehicle for.
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I ran those shocks on an 02 mdx for 80k. ( after the oe units gave up around 200 k) No complaints; ride was stock-like.

If the rears are blown, the front is probably not far from gone too. I'd bite the bullet and do all 4 corners and be done with it for another 100k
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I ran those shocks on an 02 mdx for 80k. ( after the oe units gave up around 200 k) No complaints; ride was stock-like.

If the rears are blown, the front is probably not far from gone too. I'd bite the bullet and do all 4 corners and be done with it for another 100k
OP is gonna drive another 100K in the next 6 months?
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I put KYBs on my old IDI about 5 years ago. I can say without a doubt it maintained that old IDI ride quality.
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