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Old 04-30-2019, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What mid size 4x4?

I'm currently in the market for a replacement vehicle and have the following criteria. It must be mid sized, have a transfer case, solid rear axle, be able to tow 4k lbs, and be reliable. This will be my daily driver and will also be used for vacations which can be 5k+ miles and in remote locations. Offroad use will be restricted to moderate trails, I have the juggy when I wan't to tear something up. I also have a Dodge diesel for heavy towing and work.

My first option is a new/used late model vehicle. I have test driven the Tacoma, 4runner, Ranger, Frontier, Colorado, and JL. Unfortunately I am too tall for the Tacoma, and I can't see myself doing long trips in the wrangler plus it's tow rating is low. My top picks were the Colorado and 4runner.


Option 2 would be to go back a few years and get something like the 4th gen 4runner with the V8, Xterra, or FJ Cruiser. I would then go through it with a fine tooth comb and replace any suspect and prone to failure parts.


Option 3 would be to go old school and upgrade/swap everything to newer parts including a LS engine. I have a rust free Scout that's been sitting on the back burner that I could use. The big downside I see is the lack of safety equipment and all it would take is someone to run a red light and ruin a lot of hard work and money spent.

Any suggestions?
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I own both a frontier and an LS powered scout and both are good rigs. The scout is much tougher and gets around easier. The frontier is more civilized and comfortable. Id drive either across the country without hesitation. That being said Id probably go for a late model 4Runner.
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Well, it's got a solid rear axle, so that's one thing checked off
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4 door tacoma...even if your 6'6" you should be able to slide back for enough to fit nicely.

If still no...then definitely 4runner.
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It must be mid sized
Why?

Especially since you said you'd like a V8.
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Does the scout have A/C? That would be a definite go/no go for me.
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100 series land cruiser. 98s and 99s are really cheap right now and have an electronic rear diff lock.
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100 series land cruiser. 98s and 99s are really cheap right now and have an electronic rear diff lock.
1st gen sequoia wouldnt be bad either
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1st gen sequoia wouldnt be bad either
Sorry; no.

Has to be midsize (for some reason...).
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1st gen sequoia wouldnt be bad either
Sequoia isn't bad but has a smaller rear diff than the 100 series. The 100 is way overbuilt and I would consider it a midsize. It's definitely not as large as an expedition or a tahoe.
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4 door tacoma...even if your 6'6" you should be able to slide back for enough to fit nicely.

If still no...then definitely 4runner.
The steering wheel on the Tacoma won't tilt up far enough to clear my knees.


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Does the scout have A/C? That would be a definite go/no go for me.
It has AC, I wouldn't consider it otherwise in Texas.


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Sorry; no.

Has to be midsize (for some reason...).
Full size sucks when parking, on the trails, and wouldn't fit on some of our ranch roads.
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100-series is midsize. The current 4runner is pretty much the same size
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Full size sucks when parking, on the trails, and wouldn't fit on some of our ranch roads.
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ZR2 has lockers front/rear also has 2.8L diesel option for better mpg will tow plenty safely. I am 6’6 and fit in a colorado just fine plenty of room. Reliable and comfortable daily driver. Also mpg of the 2.8L is great if hwy driving alot. Even the gas V6 version I get 25mpg avg on hwy trips and 20 avg in mixed driving.
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What size/kind of ranch do you have in TX that a full size suv wont fit on the roads? Hell my buddies family ranch will fit semis down the ranch roads and we take fullsize hunt rigs down all the two track.
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ZR2 has lockers front/rear also has 2.8L diesel option for better mpg will tow plenty safely. I am 6’6 and fit in a colorado just fine plenty of room. Reliable and comfortable daily driver. Also mpg of the 2.8L is great if hwy driving alot. Even the gas V6 version I get 25mpg avg on hwy trips and 20 avg in mixed driving.
this...

i bought a used 07 v8 toyota 4 runner and the mileage sucked and the power felt meh, the seats sucked on a 4hr trip (it was limited also )...not a big upgrade from my 98 4runnner with the 3.4. i was very disappointed.

i have a diesel zr2 now. great size for midsize for parking in town, and fitting in parking garages and tows my rzr and traier.

it also tows my off road trailer (about 2k) at hwy speeds and gets 18 mpg...towing with it in utah last weekend on secondary roads netted 20.5 mpg. I also had to use both lockers crossing a snow covered section of road.
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