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Old 05-10-2019, 06:29 AM   #176 (permalink)
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And at what point does common sense and courtesy come to play.

Common sense would be to not buy a property with an easement in the first place. If it didn't bother you enough to pass on that particular piece of property then, why should it now?

Common courtesy would have been to approach the new person and ask them to figure something else out. Not just blocking the only access to their property and then getting mad when they just drive around it instead of being able to read your mind.
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And at what point does common sense and courtesy come to play.

Common sense would be to not buy a property with an easement in the first place. If it didn't bother you enough to pass on that particular piece of property then, why should it now?

Common courtesy would have been to approach the new person and ask them to figure something else out. Not just blocking the only access to their property and then getting mad when they just drive around it instead of being able to read your mind.
I"d say, when he bought it, the easement was gone. so he did buy it without an easement.

I'm guessing that this is the first time the real estate guy had ever visited the property, so he's been parking there for a while.
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And at what point does common sense and courtesy come to play.

Common sense would be to not buy a property with an easement in the first place. If it didn't bother you enough to pass on that particular piece of property then, why should it now?

Common courtesy would have been to approach the new person and ask them to figure something else out. Not just blocking the only access to their property and then getting mad when they just drive around it instead of being able to read your mind.
You're an idiot. All of your assumptions have been address and you assumed wrong.

There was no easement.

Property has been vacant for 5 months, and the owner know he doesn't have the right to use my driveway, acknowledged that on the phone. The guy doesn't live there, so its not like I could walk over and knock on the door. Once again he doesn't live there, so its not that a blocked him in or out of his residence, its a vacant house, and he knows he doesn't have access up my driveway to get to his property. Park on the road, hop the stone wall, and walk up his own damn property maybe?

Common courtesy? How about asking the dude about using the driveway before deciding to head up in the middle of the day on a Tuesday when the probability that nobody will be there is high.

Anything else that needs to be repeated a few time so you can grasp basic concepts? Or you too busy accepting being tread on Moron Labia? Fucking christ you are dense.
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I have one that was given to me... but no.

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I"d say, when he bought it, the easement was gone. so he did buy it without an easement.

I'm guessing that this is the first time the real estate guy had ever visited the property, so he's been parking there for a while.
Glad somebody gets it.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:05 AM   #181 (permalink)
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You're an idiot. All of your assumptions have been address and you assumed wrong.

There was no easement.

Property has been vacant for 5 months, and the owner know he doesn't have the right to use my driveway, acknowledged that on the phone. The guy doesn't live there, so its not like I could walk over and knock on the door. Once again he doesn't live there, so its not that a blocked him in or out of his residence, its a vacant house, and he knows he doesn't have access up my driveway to get to his property. Park on the road, hop the stone wall, and walk up his own damn property maybe?

Common courtesy? How about asking the dude about using the driveway before deciding to head up in the middle of the day on a Tuesday when the probability that nobody will be there is high.

Anything else that needs to be repeated a few time so you can grasp basic concepts? Or you too busy accepting being tread on Moron Labia? Fucking christ you are dense.
Sounds like you talked to him on the phone. How did that go?
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Do you have the means to buy a portion of that land?


That would be the biggest factor in how I proceeded

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Sounds like you talked to him on the phone. How did that go?
It's all about two pages back. Something about discovering a shared love of white zinfandel and Celine Dion. There's talk about taking a cruise.
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Do you have the means to buy a portion of that land?


That would be the biggest factor in how I proceeded
Just bought this house, depends on the deal, but most likely no. Going to start on a fence, so that next time it sells the fence will be built to cover the old ROW.

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Sounds like you talked to him on the phone. How did that go?
Posted in detail a page or so back, he was decent enough on the phone, understood he had no right to my driveway and that the easement was gone, wanted occasional access to get some things from the garage once the ground dries more, I said I could agree to that, but no major construction or renovation traffic up my driveway.
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Old 05-10-2019, 11:30 AM   #185 (permalink)
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Going to start on a fence, so that next time it sells the fence will be built to cover the old ROW.
I'd be temped to pull up a small portion of the asphalt on your side of the new fence to disconnect the "road" and plant a flower bed in it's place.
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Truth. The people just north have a really fucky boundary.

Just got off the phone with the guy. I was decent, he was decent. He has some stuff stored there that he needs to get, he talked about some previous agreement with the PO of my house. I told him that any prior deals are not my concern, but I have no problem with the occasional trip up, but that if he was having major work done that we would need to have another discussion. He said he has no plan to do anything with the property besides sell it, and I reenforced that he has no easement, and that any buyer needed to understand that. He agreed.

So yeah, go figure, dude was decent. I wasn't worked up about it, I was trying to prepare for the worst. Some of y'all need a new hobby
As long as it was amicable but I would still do a bit of search on how long the PO allowed access just to be safe. Adverse possession can come up by the next owner regardless of new signage (state dependent time frames).
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Old 05-10-2019, 02:35 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:30 PM   #188 (permalink)
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Not always the case. I own landlocked land in ca and on the flip side own land that blocks access to landlocked land.
An easement by neccesity can be granted in ca but only by a court and generally not for bare land.

I am sure of this and think there is more to your situation then what's being said or known. In
Here is where the OP, if he were in CA, would have the obstacle. There is an obvious path that has been used as an easement. And he blocked it. Which in this state, the obvious path to the landlocked property would be considered a lawful easement.
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Old 05-10-2019, 06:26 PM   #190 (permalink)
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Here is where the OP, if he were in CA, would have the obstacle. There is an obvious path that has been used as an easement. And he blocked it. Which in this state, the obvious path to the landlocked property would be considered a lawful easement.
Except based on the property boundary map posted, its not actually land locked.
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Except based on the property boundary map posted, its not actually land locked.
I only got a few posts in before I quit reading. Didn't see a map.
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Old 05-10-2019, 07:22 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Here is where the OP, if he were in CA, would have the obstacle. There is an obvious path that has been used as an easement. And he blocked it. Which in this state, the obvious path to the landlocked property would be considered a lawful easement.
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it would be stupid simple and easy to solve this problem, put a fucking gate up at the beginning of your driveway with a lock and no trespassing signs on it, no more anyone coming down your driveway to run over your kid or trespass


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Truth. The people just north have a really fucky boundary.

Just got off the phone with the guy. I was decent, he was decent. He has some stuff stored there that he needs to get, he talked about some previous agreement with the PO of my house. I told him that any prior deals are not my concern, but I have no problem with the occasional trip up, but that if he was having major work done that we would need to have another discussion. He said he has no plan to do anything with the property besides sell it, and I reenforced that he has no easement, and that any buyer needed to understand that. He agreed.

So yeah, go figure, dude was decent. I wasn't worked up about it, I was trying to prepare for the worst. Some of y'all need a new hobby
Get all this in writing otherwise it's meaningless. You need proof, just in case. Any discussions need to be done through the mail and either certified or registered mail, otherwise you have no proof there was even a conversation going on.
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Get all this in writing otherwise it's meaningless. You need proof, just in case. Any discussions need to be done through the mail and either certified or registered mail, otherwise you have no proof there was even a conversation going on.
I don't know about all this, but it might be a good idea to call him back and say he should call and make an appointment the next time he wants access. Then have a paper drawn up saying he agrees that there is no easement and have him sign it when he comes. This paper doesn't necessarily need to be written by a lawyer. If he balks, don't let him cross.

I also would dig up the driveway where it Y's from yours to the property line and plant grass. Gate at the end of the driveway is always a good idea regardless of this outcome.
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it would be stupid simple and easy to solve this problem, put a fucking gate up at the beginning of your driveway with a lock and no trespassing signs on it, no more anyone coming down your driveway to run over your kid or trespass

this, in a heartbeat is what i would do. no legal or implied right of way exists. if the re attorney wants to sell the prop for development, access from the frontage needs to be "developed" as well. re attorney can develop access, or they can fucking walk in from the road frontage.
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this, in a heartbeat is what i would do. no legal or implied right of way exists. if the re attorney wants to sell the prop for development, access from the frontage needs to be "developed" as well. re attorney can develop access, or they can fucking walk in from the road frontage.


Walk-in on whos property???


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The guy needs to put a driveway/path whatever on that 50 ft frontage. I am sure he could get a variance. 50 ft is wider than many residential lots with a double driveway. Is there a ditch there to stop him from just driving or walking in that way now?
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