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Filthy McChevy 05-11-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 45acp (Post 44438100)
Ill tell you what's not to like!!! Got dang Jarrod and Eddie and J.D. and Jimmie Don all work at the hammer drill factory up in Cousinfinger Missouri and your puttin' them all out of a job!!!! But I guess it's worth it to you and your commie buddies!!


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Hmmm, then maybe a few shitty drivers from Misery won't have enough money to come to Colorado on vacation and screw up more driving for me with their floor it on straightaways and over brake on corners shit.

LigBoozer 05-11-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RedPurdueYJ (Post 44436864)
Fuck trump and his commie style taxes. Sold himself as a lover of the free market. Guess not. Hes just another Obama lite stalinist.

Socialism for me, but not for thee.

Idiot thinks tariffs go into the coffers of the US.

xjtony 05-11-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PROJECTJUNKIE (Post 44436586)
I reach past my American snap on ratchets to get my 120 tooth gear wrench ratchets. Taiwan ftmfw :-)

Reminds me, I heard a comment that buying Taiwan actually "hurts" the Chinese more than buying American, dollar for dollar, it strengthens Taiwan, which is a thorn in China side

Is the gear wrench stuff good quality? I see a set of the 120 ratchets on amazon for like 90$ Tempted to pick a set up.
https://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81...gateway&sr=8-9

Mattafact 05-11-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xjtony (Post 44438346)
Is the gear wrench stuff good quality? I see a set of the 120 ratchets on amazon for like 90$ Tempted to pick a set up.
https://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81...gateway&sr=8-9

Most gearwrench tools are made by Apex in Taiwan. It's good stuff.

Norm 05-11-2019 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LigBoozer (Post 44438114)
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Originally Posted by RedPurdueYJ (Post 44436864)
Fuck trump and his commie style taxes. Sold himself as a lover of the free market. Guess not. Hes just another Obama lite stalinist.

Socialism for me, but not for thee.

Idiot thinks tariffs go into the coffers of the US.


So school us were the tariffs go. And socialism is only good for people that can’t handle freedom and self responsibility. Personally I don’t need to be ruled and I’ll prefer pick the charity’s I give money to rather than being told who I have to give to.

Socialism is like ass cancer, sooner or later it will destroy the host.

Black Sheep 05-11-2019 10:11 PM

I've broke my 3/8 snapon ratchet 3 times now. I'll admit the action is a lot smoother, but I have a HF knockoff for backup when it breaks.

The inferior harbor freight sockets are still going strong. Its foolish to buy any socket besides HF for the money.

[486] 05-12-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Sheep (Post 44438414)
I've broke my 3/8 snapon ratchet 3 times now. I'll admit the action is a lot smoother, but I have a HF knockoff for backup when it breaks.

the 80/72 tooth ones do suck ass
like they come from the factory loaded up with steel grit that makes them slip
but you can clean them out and then a month later you've got to do it again

Mattafact 05-12-2019 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by [486] (Post 44438700)
the 80/72 tooth ones do suck ass
like they come from the factory loaded up with steel grit that makes them slip
but you can clean them out and then a month later you've got to do it again

I have 6 or 7 80 tooth snap ons. All bought used and no issues for me.

Shadow man 05-12-2019 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidVanVorous (Post 44437184)
The irony is lost on the clueless here.

If the objective is to bring back the manufacturing jobs such as your tape measure assembled in the US from parts imported from Taiwan or France, the only jobs "temporarily" saved are low pay "trained monkey" $12/hr assembly jobs and low value support staff at Stanley...Which would be replaced as the facility got more robotically automated as time progressed.

The tarrifs you are supporting don't impact unassembled parts, only raw stock and finished goods. As such the only folks they hit are the US consumers via higher prices. They WONT open a steel mill that's been mothballed since the 60s nor will they add any skilled labor jobs except if you happen to be a techy and can work on the robotics and assembly lines to used to put together parts made and brought into the US from other countries avoiding the tariffs and labelled bogusly with a "Made in USA" sticker...

Tis the way corporate "Murica" works and how the companies get around stupid ideas like tariffs. The Japanese car makers taught US manufacturers real well on how to do this the last time the US pulled this stunt with tariffs...:laughing:

As someone who was a "techy" for many manufacturing companies ALL over the USA, I can tell you, many companies have regressed on automation. Companies have found out that spending millions on one off prototype equipment to make what they produce, discovered even if you hire retards, you still have production because of less downtime on a specialized equipment that requires a tech from a company many states over.

[486] 05-12-2019 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattafact (Post 44438730)
I have 6 or 7 80 tooth snap ons. All bought used and no issues for me.

I dunno I bought all mine a few years back with the student discount for like 30 bucks apiece on 1/4 dr, 40 or so on 3/8 and the 1/2 ones were like a hundred
all of them have gone through a few repair kits

whereas I've only broken one of my older 36 tooth ones

PROJECTJUNKIE 05-12-2019 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xjtony (Post 44438346)
Is the gear wrench stuff good quality? I see a set of the 120 ratchets on amazon for like 90$ Tempted to pick a set up.
https://www.amazon.com/GearWrench-81...gateway&sr=8-9

I haven't had the opportunity to abuse mine yet, but don't see any reason why they won't hold up as the ratchet wrenches I bought in 1998.

My coworker shuffles up in his snapon jacket. Sets his snap on coffee cup on my tool cart. Picks up my gearwrench ratchet, spins the 120 teeth around with his fingers, works the flex head back and forth, feels the heft of it, inspects the chrome, asks how much it cost me, picks up his snap on cup, and shuffles off :laughing:

xjtony 05-12-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PROJECTJUNKIE (Post 44439146)
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Originally Posted by xjtony (Post 44438346)
Is the gear wrench stuff good quality? I see a set of the 120 ratchets on amazon for like 90$ Tempted to pick a set up

I haven't had the opportunity to abuse mine yet, but don't see any reason why they won't hold up as the ratchet wrenches I bought in 1998.

My coworker shuffles up in his snapon jacket. Sets his snap on coffee cup on my tool cart. Picks up my gearwrench ratchet, spins the 120 teeth around with his fingers, works the flex head back and forth, feels the heft of it, inspects the chrome, asks how much it cost me, picks up his snap on cup, and shuffles off <a href="https://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/images/smilies/laughing.gif" border="0" alt="" title="laughing" >:-)</a>

I’ll give em a try then. I’ve only used one snap on 1/2” ratchet and was impressed with the short range of motion to get it to operate compared to my old craftsman ratchets. Guess any of the more tooth count stuff will be worlds of difference from what I got.

Lil Uzi 05-13-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidVanVorous (Post 44437184)
The irony is lost on the clueless here.

If the objective is to bring back the manufacturing jobs such as your tape measure assembled in the US from parts imported from Taiwan or France, the only jobs "temporarily" saved are low pay "trained monkey" $12/hr assembly jobs and low value support staff at Stanley...Which would be replaced as the facility got more robotically automated as time progressed.

The tarrifs you are supporting don't impact unassembled parts, only raw stock and finished goods. As such the only folks they hit are the US consumers via higher prices. They WONT open a steel mill that's been mothballed since the 60s nor will they add any skilled labor jobs except if you happen to be a techy and can work on the robotics and assembly lines to used to put together parts made and brought into the US from other countries avoiding the tariffs and labelled bogusly with a "Made in USA" sticker...

Tis the way corporate "Murica" works and how the companies get around stupid ideas like tariffs. The Japanese car makers taught US manufacturers real well on how to do this the last time the US pulled this stunt with tariffs...:laughing:

You seem to actually know something about what you talk about :laughing: I don't agree with a big piece of it though. Bigger more complex goods, say automobiles we can all grasp. All I know is what I researched myself and accept as truth from the news we are all fed. The Hyundai plant in Alabama for example. Until just recently when the demand for sedans dropped and other forces, the plant ran 3 shifts 24/7. It went through a HUGE expansion modernization. Hundreds of millions of dollars in it. All here in the USA. Hyundai could have built anywhere. Mexico, Brazil, anywhere. All long before Trump came along. Some parts as you mention are unfinished, then finished at the plant. It may be con rods, cranks, but pistons, the blocks etc. All are either poured here USA as molten or finished, sized for final production here. And then then install/assembly. Lots of labor in that. We were taught, 1978, that a single manufacturing job creates residual downstream 4 support jobs. Banking, packaging, trucking etc. Probably not true 100% but you get the idea. None of this applies to something small and simple, the electric screwdriver for example. But I believe that the Trump Tariffs are not as useless or ineffective as you suggest. Wasn't it Volvo that squealed recently as they wouldn't be able to import cheap Chicom Volvos to the USA ? If the tarriffs are ineffective (in this one case as an example) then why would Volvo squeal ? That doesn't raise prices here, it stabilizes them and prevents erosion and undermining the existing prices and profits. Focusing on a simple tool is just that, small focus. Using autos, tell us more.


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