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Old 05-17-2019, 07:20 AM   #26 (permalink)
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On a serious note...maybe the OP should put an oil accumulator on and pre-lube before every start.....just think how long grandma's family heirloom crown vic with last......... FOREVER!
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Old 05-17-2019, 07:32 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Second...Scotty Kilmer teaches
that guy is a fucking out of touch idiot, and you should stop watching his shit on youtube.

besides, if you wanted to disable anything it should be the fuel system.
unless you like washing your cylinders down while spinning over your motor with no spark.
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that guy is a fucking out of touch idiot, and you should stop watching his shit on youtube.
He's drunk, slobbering, and screaming in every video as well.



OP- Don't forget to swap out your muffler bearing and blinker fluid. Those are real killers at the mileage.
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Old 05-17-2019, 09:29 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Cranking it without it firing puts way less load on the bearings, well within the film strength of the residual oil in them, thus ensuring there is no undue wear.

Anyone who gives a fuck does it, along with pre-oiling the filter to capacity. Apparently you do not give a fuck though.
Not only is this unnecessary, it washes down the cylinder walls with unburned fuel. Filling the oil filter with oil and some of this other silly shit was beneficial when cars were assembled with much worse oiling systems and large mechanical tolerances. Not so much now.
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I have 3 modern EFI cars that kill spark + fuel if you hold the accelerator on the floor before & during cranking. Takes little effort and costs 15 sec. I can spare, so I do it for 1st start after oil changes 'til oil pressure comes up. It's a near-zero-cost way to not run for 5-10 seconds w/o oil pressure, so I avail myself of that designed-in feature.

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Not only is this unnecessary, it washes down the cylinder walls with unburned fuel. Filling the oil filter with oil and some of this other silly shit was beneficial when cars were assembled with much worse oiling systems and large mechanical tolerances. Not so much now.
Well, in DC's defense, the newest thing on the reservation is like 1982
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Not only is this unnecessary, it washes down the cylinder walls with unburned fuel. Filling the oil filter with oil and some of this other silly shit was beneficial when cars were assembled with much worse oiling systems and large mechanical tolerances. Not so much now.
Trying to prefill the filter on a 1GR-FE never works out well for me, I can't figure it out


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Not only is this unnecessary, it washes down the cylinder walls with unburned fuel. Filling the oil filter with oil and some of this other silly shit was beneficial when cars were assembled with much worse oiling systems and large mechanical tolerances. Not so much now.
so what if it gets the extra added benefit of cleaned cylinder walls.
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I have 3 modern EFI cars that kill spark + fuel if you hold the accelerator on the floor before & during cranking. Takes little effort and costs 15 sec. I can spare, so I do it for 1st start after oil changes 'til oil pressure comes up. It's a near-zero-cost way to not run for 5-10 seconds w/o oil pressure, so I avail myself of that designed-in feature.

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Fuel cut yes, but it will continue to fire ignition.
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Fuel cut yes, but it will continue to fire ignition.
Yep, you're right - I lied, sorry. <-- me typing in a hurry

Either way, it won't hose down the cylinder walls and cause teh AIDS
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I pull the spark plugs on race motors when getting ready to fire them up

Every morning on 3k or less motors (3000 miles between rebuilds)

Every event on most race motors - when they have sat for a week or two between events

At the first fire up of the season for all other race motors

Pulling the plugs does two things. No compression and no spark. Most race cars I deal with have fuel pump switches or cut offs so easy not to have fuel pumping into the cylinders. Usually prime the oil (distributor on the SBC or a drill and socket into the dry sump pump drive)

A crown Vic? Are you retarded man?
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WOW!

I'm sooooooo disappointed in you bastards.
Seriously, what's wrong with you guys, you've grown so soft.

To the OP, do what ALL the other Ford guys do to make a Ford run good.
Ford truck, install a Cummins.
Ford car, A LS engine!
Problem solved!
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Cranking it without it firing puts way less load on the bearings, well within the film strength of the residual oil in them, thus ensuring there is no undue wear.

Anyone who gives a fuck does it, along with pre-oiling the filter to capacity. Apparently you do not give a fuck though.
Toyota has some of their filters on upside down.
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Toyota has some of their filters on upside down.
FJ, just did one.
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IIRC, the motor uses 2 timing chains-
This. And they are a weak point ask me how i know....
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I'm sooooooo disappointed in you bastards.

Seriously, what's wrong with you guys, you've grown so soft.



To the OP, do what ALL the other Ford guys do to make a Ford run good.

Call a tow truck. While waiting apply your makeup and lipstick.

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Scotty Kilmer is a stupid fucker! Don’t listen to the stupid shit he says. Change the oil. Don’t disable the spark. I’ve never done that and never had a motor bite the dust. There is residual oil on the bearings and internal components that will keep wear on them from happening for the few seconds it takes to build pressure. Drive the bastard until it blows up. Buy another beater, repeat.
i've blown up plenty of motors, but never from that specific thing

On topic, when my crown victoria was finally dust worthy as the transmission was toasting itself and the interior bits where failing, while driving to pick n pull to get $200 for it, i stopped behind albertsons to do donuts and burn outs for a few minutes.

even after overheating due to a seized water pump and with the trans throwing fits from probably near zero fluid and likely at or near 300k miles, that fuckin' monster still drove itself to the wrecker

damn fine automobiles. quite possibly the greatest thing Ford ever built.


so yeah, don't fuck with it and just top off the fluids every now and again.
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WOW!

I'm sooooooo disappointed in you bastards.
Seriously, what's wrong with you guys, you've grown so soft.

To the OP, do what ALL the other Ford guys do to make a Ford run good.
Ford truck, install a Cummins.
Ford car, A LS engine!
Problem solved!
he ain't talkin' 'bout some shitbox pick em up truck or some pile of parts moosetang

god damned panthers don't fuck around!

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Toyota has some of their filters on upside down.
yup, that newer V6 that takes the D3/G1 and older corollas and camrys where it's under the exhaust manifold
same on later subarus and VWs
I was gonna say ford pinto motors, but really, near as dammit the majority of inlines got the filter horizontal

you truly wanna get fucking pedantic and overprotective, you gotta fill the filter through the outside, as the center is where the filtered oil comes out into the engine. You get some little bits of plastic in there that the bottler missed and they'll smear onto your bearings real nice.

just let the fucker rattle for a second or five (in the case of a 600k mile pinto motor with a fl1a on the side)

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Toyota has some of their filters on upside down.
Thatís so the oil gravity feeds retard. You just have to turn it over quick and screw it down quicker.
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Thatís so the oil gravity feeds retard. You just have to turn it over quick and screw it down quicker.
Actually if you put it in the freezer for an hour or so, you can just leisurely screw it on without it dripping. Personally I normally just put it outside to do the same thing, but I understand not everywhere is as awesome as where I live.
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Actually if you put it in the freezer for an hour or so, you can just leisurely screw it on without it dripping. Personally I normally just put it outside to do the same thing, but I understand not everywhere is as awesome as where I live.
I live in Cali. Itís hard to keep the ice cube cold sometimes, but not far from here, you donít even need a freezer
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And you gays call me tarded, Dude watch all the youtube videos ya want, but don't take any of them as gospel, Except for that one channel with the long blond haired Canadian homo playing with jeeps. He'll teach you the jeep wave and have all the homo's waving back at you even in a panther platform on Twenty Fo's It's got a 8.8 all the jeep fags want that in their rear end.

Seriously just run the fucker till it blows, drop in another $200 junkyard engine and try something different till that one blows, eventually you find out what works for you.

Don't let these old curmudgeon's tell you that engine doesn't have a timing belt. They're just grumpy cause you assumed it did and went on and on about it without googling it first.
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