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Old 05-30-2019, 05:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Trump Mexico Tariffs Illegals

Trump is going to add a 5% tariff on everything Mexican beginning in two weeks.

He will increase the tariffs 5% each month until they top out at 25%.

Tariiffs will be immediately removed when Mexico stops permitting illegals to cross over into our country.

This is gonna be good.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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So Mexico will either be our wall or they will pay for it.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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So Mexico will either be our wall or they will pay for it.
Motherfucker knows him a thing or two about leverage.
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By next Wednesday some 9th circuit judge will rule it unconstitutional and put a stay on it.
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Pretty sure this will hurt us much more than them. I doubt Mexico can do much about the illegal immigration issue even if they wanted to.
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Old 05-30-2019, 05:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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By next Wednesday some 9th circuit judge will rule it unconstitutional and put a stay on it.
That's the beauty of it. Trump still wins.
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Pretty sure this will hurt us much more than them. I doubt Mexico can do much about the illegal immigration issue even if they wanted to.
Pretty much. The ones in Mexico this will hurt are the working poor that make/grow the stuff we buy, and the rich who run Mexico won't give a shit.
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That's the beauty of it. Trump still wins.
The tariffs might need congressional approval by a change to NAFTA. If this is true I don't see it getting thru the house.
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Pretty much. The ones in Mexico this will hurt are the working poor that make/grow the stuff we buy, and the rich who run Mexico won't give a shit.
Funny how that works. I'm a poor American and I don't give a shit about poor Mexicans.
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There goes the Big 3.
So much winning.
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The tariffs might need congressional approval by a change to NAFTA. If this is true I don't see it getting thru the house.
Trump still wins.

==> It goes through, his base solidifies because he did it.

==> It dies, his base solidifies because he couldn't.
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Pretty much. The ones in Mexico this will hurt are the working poor that make/grow the stuff we buy, and the rich who run Mexico won't give a shit.

So fucking what, maybe they will put pressure on their own government to stop the immigrants. The one thing they will understand is money, I hope it hurts.
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Mainstream media has not put out their spin on this yet. I can hardly wait.
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Pretty sure this will hurt us much more than them. I doubt Mexico can do much about the illegal immigration issue even if they wanted to.
Seriously? The mexican govt is not only allowing them passage they are helping them move north. They are also providing support for the mobs of families waiting in mexico to cross the river. They are doing nothing to stop the scores of illegal central americans crossing their southern border.
He needs to shut the borders down completely and throttle all mexican goods and tbeir citizens that come north to work everyday. Fuck em. They dont want to help, starve em.
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Trump still wins.

==> It goes through, his base solidifies because he did it.

==> It dies, his base solidifies because he couldn't.
I believe you are correct, and this is what makes him a career politician's nightmare. Instead of the Dems sitting back and watching this plan fail*, they will fight it tooth and nail to "save face", and still end up looking like fools.



*Disclaimer: I personally think these tariffs would have a chance of working in the long run (ie years), but I don't think Trump is in this one for the long game. He knows exactly what is going to happen and playing his hand like a pro.
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The tariffs might need congressional approval by a change to NAFTA. If this is true I don't see it getting thru the house.
I am not going to link to Fox or Washington Post but the gist of it is

White House officials believe Trump has powers under a 1977 law to impose tariffs on all imports from certain countries if he cites a “national emergency.” And several months ago, Trump declared a national emergency along the Mexico border because of a surge in migrants crossing into the United States.

Copied from the WaPo online

Perhaps this has been Trumps plan all along.

Will it fly before a judge?
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I believe you are correct, and this is what makes him a career politician's nightmare. Instead of the Dems sitting back and watching this plan fail*, they will fight it tooth and nail to "save face", and still end up looking like fools.



*Disclaimer: I personally think these tariffs would have a chance of working in the long run (ie years), but I don't think Trump is in this one for the long game. He knows exactly what is going to happen and playing his hand like a pro.
I concur.
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I believe you are correct, and this is what makes him a career politician's nightmare. Instead of the Dems sitting back and watching this plan fail*, they will fight it tooth and nail to "save face", and still end up looking like fools.



*Disclaimer: I personally think these tariffs would have a chance of working in the long run (ie years), but I don't think Trump is in this one for the long game. He knows exactly what is going to happen and playing his hand like a pro.
I disagree, I think Trump is the most patient man in DC at this point. His long game is strong. His short game is pretty good too, this takes Mueller off the front page after his day of fame. He's not letting them control the narrative, only react to his.
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So if I understand it correctly, instead of Border Patrol and ICE handling the immigrants illegally crossing. It's now going to be in the hands of the Mexican LEO's to handle this issue from their side?

I guess I have to ask: how accurate is this podcast? Because based on the way he paints the picture (and based on lore telling of the corruption I've heard my whole life) I have to wonder just how famously this will go. The way it sounds, the police forces in Mexico can't be trusted at all.

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Yay! This will be great for American!

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