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Old 06-08-2019, 11:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking at a 2004 Lincoln Towncar for Mom..

I grew up with Mom always having a Lincoln or Cadillac in the driveway, past few years she's been in a Grand Cherokee and wants a luxury ride again. I'v been telling her the Jeep makes more sense as i'm familiar with them.

Now she wants to give my youngest sister her Jeep.. to help her out. And she's back on the hunt. She found a 2004 Lincoln Towncar with ~60k miles for $4k.

Sounds awful cheap to me, so figured i'd ask here.. I know nothing about these cars and would appreciate some guidance so I don't put Mom in a POS that needs maintenance every other week. What to look for? Known issues?

She's elderly and retired, Dad has passed on. IIRC she averages about 2500 miles a year locally. I typically take her to appointments but she enjoys getting out of the house and visiting friends.

Seller seems ok with bringing it to me or local shop to have it looked over, and we would have cash in hand at that time.
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Old V8 sedan prices are in the dumpster. $4k is likely not too cheap.
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Old 06-08-2019, 12:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I understand if your mom wants a sedan, but a Grand Cherokee is typically just as luxurious as a Towncar. And my mom went to Grand Cherokees at this time due to her arthritis.
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In NYC the limo companies put may hundreds of thousands of miles on them. Parts are dirt cheap. Other than haggling on the price it sounds OK.
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Pretty solid car, not as solid as the generation before, but hard to beat.

Heater core issues, and a bitch to replace, make sure it isn't bypassed.

Also, miles are low, make sure it didn't sit for a few years, no car likes that

Not terribly cheap, as mentioned

Got snow? It wont like it
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Start it when cold and listen for any rattles,the timing chain tensioners are known for going bad,about 4h and $150-200,easy driveway job,not sure if 04+ had issue
Cycle the hvac between all modes and temps,the blend motors go,under $100 for ford parts at rockauto and im 99% sure the 04 can be done without pulling the dash
Rear airbags leak,shop around and both can be done for under $150,it will take you longer to jack the car up and pull the tire to swap them or swap crown vic springs
Alot of parts can be found at rockauto due to the fleet popularity and being in the same family as a crown vic
$4k is abit for a usa car,offer 3 and settle on 3500
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I understand if your mom wants a sedan, but a Grand Cherokee is typically just as luxurious as a Towncar. And my mom went to Grand Cherokees at this time due to her arthritis.
Yeah, but climbing into one? Town car wins there.

I bet $ a towncar of the same vintage has less problems than a GC of the same vintage. The 02' GC I had for a while was a piece of crap.
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Got snow? It wont like it
I have never had a issue with snow tires
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I know nothing about these cars and would appreciate some guidance so I don't put Mom in a POS that needs maintenance every other week. What to look for? Known issues?
The towncar is the upscale version of the grand marquis (same chassis). So whatever you find by way of crown vic threads here will apply to the town car. Listen for 4.6L sewing machine noise (timing chains), Intake manifold likes to pop (like any other panther chassis 4.6L plastic manifold, easy fix). While heater cores are a bear, there is much worse out there to contend with. I've pulled a few, only the first one takes a while when you are making sure you got everything loose that needs to be loose. Go for it.

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Is Lincoln and caddys still luxury cars?
Maybe she will like a beige Buick


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Any base model 2010+ car is more "luxurious" than a towncar.
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Google eatc self test. run the self test, it will show codes. there is a blend door that requires dash removal.
Run the vin for recalls, Steering shaft, wiring fire.
If you smell coolant under the hood it prolly needs an intake manifold.
Park it on a hill so that the air ride tries to level. the pump is under the air filter and should nor run longer than 15 seconds at a time. inspect air bags.
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Any base model 2010+ car is more "luxurious" than a towncar.
Feature wise, not ride quality wise.
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Feature wise, not ride quality wise.
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tires with actual sidewalls make a huge difference, never mind the gushy suspension and actual power steering instead of the bullshit "sporty feel" steering that just feels like manual steering while you're moving

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Friend has a "base" Hyundai versa note,yah sure it has bluetooth,pw,ac and a backup cam BUT it rides like shit,loud as fuck on the hwy and I cant sit in it for more then 30min without needed to stretch
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The 02' GC I had for a while was a piece of crap.
Did you wear racing slippers when you drove it?
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Now she wants to give my youngest sister her Jeep.. to help her out.
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Friend has a "base" Hyundai versa note,yah sure it has bluetooth,pw,ac and a backup cam BUT it rides like shit,loud as fuck on the hwy and I cant sit in it for more then 30min without needed to stretch
That's exactly what I meant. The 19'Corolla I just bought as a DD has every bell and whistle feature wise, but it is loud (road noise), unrefined chassis dynamics, and rides like a little tin can in general. I was expecting that though in exchange for the 45mpg.

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Did you wear racing slippers when you drove it?
Not necessary at all when the CPS dies and leaves you stranded you need good hiking shoes to make it home
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Don't forget the plush as front and rear couches

Not to mention the trunk can fit that entire Hyundai in it.

Seriously, the first time I opened a trunk on a "panther" car, it looked like an optical illusion
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I grew up with Mom always having a Lincoln or Cadillac in the driveway, past few years she's been in a Grand Cherokee and wants a luxury ride again. I'v been telling her the Jeep makes more sense as i'm familiar with them.

Now she wants to give my youngest sister her Jeep.. to help her out. And she's back on the hunt. She found a 2004 Lincoln Towncar with ~60k miles for $4k.

Sounds awful cheap to me, so figured i'd ask here.. I know nothing about these cars and would appreciate some guidance so I don't put Mom in a POS that needs maintenance every other week. What to look for? Known issues?

She's elderly and retired, Dad has passed on. IIRC she averages about 2500 miles a year locally. I typically take her to appointments but she enjoys getting out of the house and visiting friends.

Seller seems ok with bringing it to me or local shop to have it looked over, and we would have cash in hand at that time.
Check for massive rust, as in structural rust.
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Don't forget the plush as front and rear couches

Not to mention the trunk can fit that entire Hyundai in it.

Seriously, the first time I opened a trunk on a "panther" car, it looked like an optical illusion
The young dudes don't know that these cars are perfect “pound town cars”.
Steering wheel action in the front. Plenty of room in the back seat.
Get your freak on in trunk!
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front. Plenty of room in the back seat.
Get your freak on in trunk!
That's what the "couch" in the rear seat area is for. Sure beats the back seat of a Mustang or Corolla
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In NYC the limo companies put may hundreds of thousands of miles on them. Parts are dirt cheap. Other than haggling on the price it sounds OK.
The limo companies spend a lot of money fixing and rebuilding them, too.

I know everyone here loves the panther platform but they aren’t that great, they are getting really old and the Lincoln has way more stuff to break.

Toyota Avalon is what you are looking for.
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Did you wear racing slippers when you drove it?
Are you lashing out because shitty unibody jeeps are part of your identity?
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Are you lashing out because shitty unibody jeeps are part of your identity?
Even more mad because he doubled down and drives a cum stain colored one now. True colors and all...
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