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Old 07-11-2019, 07:51 PM   #51 (permalink)
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My family is all healthy with 0 issues and I pay just under $1400/ month for my insurance.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:14 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I think it's more if your income qualifies you for healthcare, they won't check to make sure you're a citizen. So if you're a child of a citizen with a low enough income, you'll qualify. Don't get me wrong though, it's still stupid.
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Yes sir.

You mark my words, illegals will vote in state and federal elections *legally* in California before the end of the next decade . Because everyone should have a voice and there won't be that stupid Electoral College anymore to worry about. It's part of the socialists plan for complete dictatorship shortly after the Sestercentennial.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:24 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Free healthcare for illegals? Awesome.

As a citizen you have to ante up tax dollars or your employer has to make a contribution to pay for Obamacare.

Opt to deny Obamacare and you pay a tax...er, I mean penalty.

Only the liberals would be crazy enough to make CITIZENS pay for healthcare, penalize them if they opted out, yet give free healthcare to illegals.

I have a feeling that a lot of guys on this forum are probably going to be illegal in the future.


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Old 07-11-2019, 08:26 PM   #54 (permalink)
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This about sums it up , California bought in wholesale on the illegal voters to keep them selfs in office route. They donít even require an Id to vote around here anymore. Itís better to be a boarder hopper in SoCal then a working tax paying person.

Iím hoping all the asshole politicians in California get brought up on charges and face jail time for the stupid shit that goes on around here.
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Old 07-11-2019, 08:52 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Yep, they started buying the vote of state worker votes via the union and pensions. Check that box. Then giving illegals driver licenses which signed them up to vote. Check that box. Then illegals got healthcare to endear them to the socialists. Check that box. Next step is to get them included in the census to rig the vote long term.
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This about sums it up , California bought in wholesale on the illegal voters to keep them selfs in office route. They donít even require an Id to vote around here anymore. Itís better to be a boarder hopper in SoCal then a working tax paying person.

Iím hoping all the asshole politicians in California get brought up on charges and face jail time for the stupid shit that goes on around here.
yes, when does aiding and abetting criminals cross the line into being illegal enough for the Fed AG to start arresting and prosecuting these liberals.
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:04 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:59 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Only way that would happen is if there is an economic crash like with Davis, otherwise not a chance he gets recalled, and then it may still be a stretch.

Also, recalling him wont due much, even if somehow a Rep got elected in place of him, with 76% of the Assembly and 72% of the Senate in the hands of the Socialists, they have the votes to override any veto.

The only real hope for CA at this point is a plague caused by the homeless population in LA and SF that that is fatal in liberals due to it targeting the part of the brain that allows someone to be susceptible to socialism.
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I read a argument about this on Facebook. A text being Californian who works six days a week was a little irate. Apparently this only applies to illegals up to the age of 25. Somebody literally wrote it was for the children. But children of citizens do not necessarily automatically have healthcare. Motherfuckers
Good job California!
And give the citizens kids free healthcare as well. And their own card, so they can go to a doc when their meth parents are high for 3 weeks on the couch...
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Possibly but, are the democrat politicians in Kalifornia worried about losing to any R candidates? Seems to me they pretty well have that state locked up solid blue. My understanding is illegals can only vote in local elections and no the general. I doubt anyone gives a flying fawk if they do vote in the general tho. But I donít know how much impact thatís going to make anyway.

I think youíll see illegals in the states migrate to Kalifornia for some of that free healthcare also and I predict US citizens going to the hospital are in for stupid long waits and poor service. Watch hospitals out there start closing their doors too.
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Free healthcare for illegals? Awesome.

As a citizen you have to ante up tax dollars or your employer has to make a contribution to pay for Obamacare.

Opt to deny Obamacare and you pay a tax...er, I mean penalty.

Only the liberals would be crazy enough to make CITIZENS pay for healthcare, penalize them if they opted out, yet give free healthcare to illegals.

I have a feeling that a lot of guys on this forum are probably going to be illegal in the future.


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ever day i feel like this country slides ever more quicker into a paradigm that will bring about bloodshed.
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ever day i feel like this country slides ever more quicker into a paradigm that will bring about bloodshed.
I do as well but idiots like :Gary: say youíre out of your mind thinking that.
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Wow, just wow!! Iím going to pay $1350 a month for my cobra insurance after today. Thatís what my employer has been paying every month for my insurance. Now these stupid fucks just give illegals free $1350 insurance? And we as citizens are gonna pay for it too! So Iím paying double in reality! Because cali is gonna cry to the federal government for money to pay for this! Man this pisses me off! Because as has been already said, other states end up following caliís lead. Can anyone say Carb? You bet! Utah has followed suit on carb for emissions.
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Its a long term plan. Thats one thing Dums kick Repugs asses in. They plan generations ahead vs for the next election...

So lets say they get their candidate in 2024. Plus maybe control of congress then they have a chance. And if they get denied then its just campaigning on how much the Repugs hate them. Besides the percentage of voter fraud seems to be steadily growing so I imagine some will vote in this election...


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too bad the ambulance chasers have already done their damage to the healthcare industry
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Tax reform didnít repeal the ACA. Instead, it set to zero the penalty for going without health insurance. While youíll still face a penalty if youíre uninsured in 2018, starting in 2019 the penalty will be zero. The so-called individual mandate, or ďhealth insurance tax,Ē was one of the most hotly debated aspects of the ACA.
Until the next democrat president....

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I like some of the things Trump is doing with EO's to undo Obama's EO's but I'd like to see about 90% of the EO power stripped away from that office. No one person deserves that kind of power.
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I like some of the things Trump is doing with EO's to undo Obama's EO's but I'd like to see about 90% of the EO power stripped away from that office. No one person deserves that kind of power.


A pin sounds fairly badass. Most POTUS use a pen.


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It says right in the article that this crap was already in place for those that qualify due to low income up to the age of 18, this just upped the age to 25.
Don't make people actually read something, lets all jump with knee jerk reactions!

This is because all the Gen X/Y people and their 9th place trophy kids won't move out of the house, now a child is considered to be 25.
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Don't make people actually read something, lets all jump with knee jerk reactions!

This is because all the Gen X/Y people and their 9th place trophy kids won't move out of the house, now a child is considered to be 25.
yup, that has always been a shit show. very few people jumped all up and down "yay, I can now keep my kids on my ins longer!"

no, you just delayed adulthood and created a more insular world view for them to grow through

set shit at 18, make age of responsibility mean something. Not happy with setting it at 18? then get rid of the min. age all together.
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