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Old 07-18-2019, 07:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Great first bike. Its what I got for a first street bike. The front cylinder plug in the rain is a bunch of BS. I have over 100k miles on Suzuki v twins, sv and Vstroms and never had a single issue even in torrential rain or creek crossings.

Roll on power that’s fairly smooth, can be mild or run the piss out of it. Take it slow while learning and remember everyone and everything is trying to kill you. The SV also has plenty of seat, bar, peg options for proper ethos. Stock seat sucks balls. Fun bikes with a cult following. Been a long time since I was on there but the sv forum used to be good. There is an excellent SV thread on ADVrider too. Hop over there it’s a great forum.

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The pavement has no fucks to give about your flesh, I was uncomfortable with the power and weight of a 650 Honda cruiser. But i was not an "accomplished technical mtn biker" and weighed 170 at the time.. can't stop at just boots! we fully expect to see you in full color matching leathers
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Throttle works both ways. I had a yellow 05. That bike would do everything. Track to touring.
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Excellent choice. Never owned one, but got to ride one for a weekend. Plenty of power, laid back at low throttle and no big hit climbing the rpms like a 600 sportbike. More than fast enough to scrape a boot and step the back tire out. My experience- I had been riding at that point for 35 years (over 20 on sportbikes) and thought it was fun. Very comfortable riding position also.

They're typically going for +/-$2000 in mint condition
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My starter was a GS1000.

Respect the power, and know your limitations.
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Getting soft around here.

If you do not get a R1M for your first bike you have no balls.
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:36 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Appreciate everyone's replies, I'm surprised there aren't more dissenting opinions.

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Have fun and let us know how it goes
Thanks. I feel "bit" by the bug at this point. This seems like a logical progression of gearhead things to conquer, although I'm getting old now to start.

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sv650s are great bikes that will take you a long ways in learning how to ride.



I started on an R1 though so what do I know...
Crazy!! Maybe down the road, if I progress to that level.

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In his late teens my dad was a pro drag racer for RC Engineering, back when Terry Vance was the main rider and Byron Hines was the mechanic before they left to form Vance & Hines. When he decided to take up road racing in his 30s he started off on a 250 Ninja to learn on before stepping up to a TZ250. I spent my youth at the track and watched a lot of guys start off on bikes that were way too big for them. Watched a lot of them eat shit, some died in the process. One dude ground his thumb off in a crash. They replaced it with his big toe.

My vote is one of those new 300s.
Appreciate the dose of reality, actually surprised there aren't more posts like this one. I'm too old to start substituting toes for fingers

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Dead is dead regardless if the left turn cage gets you on a 100 or a big bore.
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if you like that style..youll want a crusier or touring in a few years..

i drove a friends 600 ninja once....100 mph in 2nd gear

Interesting several of you have made comments relating it to being similar to a cruiser? Isn't it closer to a sport/supersport?

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Perfect starter bike, all the way up to a track bike. pick up a good used one for $1500-3000and run the piss out of it. You won’t get bored.
Wow, I need to start shopping used, (see below for numbers)

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Great first bike. Its what I got for a first street bike. The front cylinder plug in the rain is a bunch of BS. I have over 100k miles on Suzuki v twins, sv and Vstroms and never had a single issue even in torrential rain or creek crossings.

Roll on power that’s fairly smooth, can be mild or run the piss out of it. Take it slow while learning and remember everyone and everything is trying to kill you. The SV also has plenty of seat, bar, peg options for proper ethos. Stock seat sucks balls. Fun bikes with a cult following. Been a long time since I was on there but the sv forum used to be good. There is an excellent SV thread on ADVrider too. Hop over there it’s a great forum.

If you are a smaller dude go demo a KTM 390 duke
Thanks for the suggestions! I actually had the KTM Duke 390 singled out as it seems like a fun bike in the video reviews. No KTM dealer immediately nearby

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The pavement has no fucks to give about your flesh, I was uncomfortable with the power and weight of a 650 Honda cruiser. But i was not an "accomplished technical mtn biker" and weighed 170 at the time.. can't stop at just boots! we fully expect to see you in full color matching leathers
When I get something, I might give you a-holes some more gear fodder for your laughing pleasure, it won't be anything too cool though

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Not the fastest thing on the road but not something you’ll regret buying a year later.
Trying to avoid that scenario.

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Got one as my first bike 3 yrs ago now. Although I’ve added to the stable, I still commute on it. Easy enough for a new rider but still lots of fun in the canyons.


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Thanks, that says a lot you've kept it around.

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When I took my MSF course I had ZERO motorcycle experience. Friend with ~50yrs experience who owns like 50+ bikes (no wife/kids) recommended me a carb'd SV650 naked for my first bike. I ended up having 2 more SVs after that one. Great 1st bike.
I'm picking up these things could be addictive.

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For freeway riding, I wouldn't get anything under a 500.
Hearing this a lot. I'd like to be able to venture out across town when my skill set permits.

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I test rode it for him because he had the same concern as you and I felt it was a great beginner bike so he bought it.
Did he end up doing well on it?
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My starter was a GS1000.

Respect the power, and know your limitations.
Good points. I think I have a realistic view of my abilities (or lack thereof)

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Getting soft around here.

If you do not get a R1M for your first bike you have no balls.
Maybe for a 3rd or 4th bike



logic check these numbers, spent a couple hours at the dealer after posting this. Almost makes me think buying used will be better:

bike $4200
freight $700 (Really?)
assembly $700 (Really?)
tax $475
lic/reg $150
dealer processing/doc fee $500 (fawk!)

total ~6700

Seems like at least three of those number are inflated/out of line/BS. thoughts? Good counter offer?
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Old 07-18-2019, 09:40 PM   #34 (permalink)
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For a first bike. I’d buy used. A nice bike can be found for sub 3k and you won’t care as much if you dump it. Even crashed for parts they go for over $1k


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Old 07-18-2019, 09:52 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Find a used one. Much less painful when you drop it (at least on your ego, you'll still hurt).

Bikes are fast if you ride them fast. They're slow if you ride them slow. I don't own a street bike because I was doing 150 mph after 10 minutes on one. I have zero self control when I get on one, decided it was less painful to not buy one.

I have a plated 360 2t dirt bike. So don't know that I'm really sane. Knobbies on asphalt is entertaining though.
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I’ve been really wanting to get a sport bike, and I have zero motorcycle experience. Aside from dirt bikes when I was younger. I’ve been looking into the smaller sport bikes they offer now. Like the Yamaha R3. I probably won’t buy one though just cuz I’m lame
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i meant....youll decide if you want more sport touring, full sport , or cruiser after riding awhile. ..

and like above... there's way too many used bikes out there, with no miles on them, to buy new for your first bike ...let someone else whomhad the bug..then it sat in there garage cause they never rode it

cuz you will drop it, even if it's just in your driveway or in your garage or it will get scratched or nicked..

definitely buy used for your first one

i picked up a triumph st1300 back in the day for peanuts..it was like 6 yrs old and had 4k miles on it....that is a week long trip with the guys i ride with
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Old 07-18-2019, 10:28 PM   #38 (permalink)
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logic check these numbers, spent a couple hours at the dealer after posting this. Almost makes me think buying used will be better:

bike $4200
freight $700 (Really?)
assembly $700 (Really?)
tax $475
lic/reg $150
dealer processing/doc fee $500 (fawk!)

total ~6700

Seems like at least three of those number are inflated/out of line/BS. thoughts? Good counter offer?
New bikes have insane "fees", and most dealers won't budge unless they're trying to unload last year's model. Unless you're set on new, find a low-mile, cherry-condition used SV650 and save thousands. Now that you know what the dealer wants to shove up your ass, look on Craigslist and feel like a big spender when you're only looking at the top half of the used price range

And blow some of your savings on good safety gear. Good luck and ride safe
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What has been said already - used all the way.
Buddy sold me his 2012 Ninja 650 for $2500. Got it home in January - still have to go take the MSF course and get me some solid riding gear.
I do put around on it here and there within my residential area - after 4k thing pulls like a mule, plenty of power for me out of that twin

Do not cheap out on helmet, jacket etc. if you can swing it...

Been out of work for a bit so it is not a priority at the moment, house remodel and my fiancee are more of a priority. Hell even fun car (Miata) hasn't seen any action for the season (threw a set of coilovers / swaybars on it in February, can't wait to dial it all in).
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Background: I just passed my MSF safety course, got my endorsement and I'm wanting to ride. No prior experience other than I have decent balance on two wheels being a somewhat accomplished technical mtn. biker. I passed the riding test (with 0 deductions) on a Rebel 300 which I feel like I was progressing very quickly on.

I stumbled on a dealer that has a 2018 Suzuki SV650 (the naked framed version), at a aggressive discount. I fit on the bike, but I can tell this is a whole lot more bike than the Rebel. Long story short is the SV650 too much to learn on if I have extreme respect for the bike and take it real easy?
I basically did what you just went through years ago. Took the states safety course on a Honda Knighthawk 250 and 1 week later purchased a Honda 750 Ace off ebay several states away. Flew out and drove it back. It was a a real eye opener and I learned a lot but I wouldn't change a thing about it. I don't think a 650 will be too much for you right off the bat. Get on something and just ride. AND keep your head on a swivel for all the cagers out there.
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I need to scratch the motorcycle itch one of these days.
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It's a great bike and don't buy into the "you'll outgrow it" from that crowd. I don't know what makes people think you "out grow" a certain bike. You're not a kid, you quit physically growing years ago.
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Should be a decent enough bike. I wouldn't worry too much about having too large a motor, just too heavy a bike. I ride a fz1 mostly, you are in charge of the throttle regardless of how much power you have.
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It's a great bike and don't buy into the "you'll outgrow it" from that crowd. I don't know what makes people think you "out grow" a certain bike. You're not a kid, you quit physically growing years ago.
I like it when people say that too or when I tell them I have a ninja 300, they say, “one day you’ll get a bigger bike, once you learn on that one”. The ninja is my race bike. you don’t out grow anything, you just get bored with it or want a new challenge.

If he ever “out grows it”, likes the seating position and the v-twin power, he can step up to the SV’s evil stepbrother, the ducati hypermotard

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That's exactly my point. You don't "outgrow" power.

You get BORED with a certain power output. You don't outgrow it.
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That's exactly my point. You don't "outgrow" power.

You get BORED with a certain power output. You don't outgrow it.
I had to edit mine, I knew I didn’t explain well.
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Great bike for novice and veteran riders.
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I learnt on an 1100, so it's definitely doable.

That being said, I'd echo the used option for a learner. I only paid $2500 for my Shadow, and put 10K on it, sold it for $2250. That's a fairly cheap education.
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Power and your ability to use it depends on the roads you normally ride on...I live in the rural north east, can ride for dozens of miles on two lane roads that go up and down and twist this way and that, with many blind curves..The pavement is not always the best, there can be hazards like loose stone,mud from farm equipment and tractors on the road...It's challanging and rewarding to ride fast so a good handling moderate power bike is most practical..
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Make sure to factor in gear to the price equation. People seem to forget about that and get surprised by the ~$1000 for decent safety gear.
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