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Old 08-09-2019, 08:00 AM   #26 (permalink)
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This guy gets it. Kid did not a thing wrong. I would sue the fucking pants off of the firefighter. If you pull a gun on me while I am doing nothing wrong you better hope you are a good shot.
Then dont be an attention whore faggot like this kid and guns wont get drawn on you. Pretty damn simple.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:08 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Given recent events, attention whore pushing the envelope of stupid.
Still not illegal, or as I understand it, against company policy. The Walmarts I've seen in Texas do have the 30.06 "no open carry" signs, but I've never seen that at a Walmart outside of Texas.
The "terror of the public" laws have IMO been abused to make legal activities into thoughtcrime, and worse, thought-of-somebody-else-crime. That's like saying I can't have a green mohawk and a face full of fishing tackle because I might scare little kids.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:17 AM   #28 (permalink)
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In light of recent events, good on this kid for being prepared! Yes , carrying a capable firearm and body armor is being prepared.

Couple of snow flakes posting above, and fake 2A supporters with their “but”.

Hope the store manager gets charged for inducing panic by pulling the fire alarm and gets charged for improperly setting off the fire alarm. Hope the off duty firefighters gets charged with kidnapping at gun point and brandishing a firearm. Hope they also sue the police for false arrest and racial profiling.

The ACLU should be sending up a legal team to win this civil rights easy case.
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Given recent events, attention whore pushing the envelope of stupid.
Still not illegal, or as I understand it, against company policy. The Walmarts I've seen in Texas do have the 30.06 "no open carry" signs, but I've never seen that at a Walmart outside of Texas.
The "terror of the public" laws have IMO been abused to make legal activities into thoughtcrime, and worse, thought-of-somebody-else-crime. That's like saying I can't have a green mohawk and a face full of fishing tackle because I might scare little kids.
to clarify, in Texas 30.06 is no concealed carry, 30.07 is no open carry.

I haven't noticed either sign at our local Wlmarts but it's been a while, I'll have to look next time
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Not me, but most people say if he was black/brown he would be dead.

I want to agree with you but I can't. If I saw the person in the picture above walk into wallmart I would be afraid.
Even with what I said above, If I saw the kid walk into Wal-mart., I'd probably head on over to Lowes. I ain't no hero. My pistol is meant to get me out of a bad situation, not to get me into one. I wouldn't call the cops ,either.

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In light of recent events, good on this kid for being prepared! Yes , carrying a capable firearm and body armor is being prepared.

Couple of snow flakes posting above, and fake 2A supporters with their “but”.

Hope the store manager gets charged for inducing panic by pulling the fire alarm and gets charged for improperly setting off the fire alarm. Hope the off duty firefighters gets charged with kidnapping at gun point and brandishing a firearm. Hope they also sue the police for false arrest and racial profiling.

The ACLU should be sending up a legal team to win this civil rights easy case.
I agree with this. Lots of people should do this until it becomes normal and people don't give a gun any notice at all. Unfortunately, it's too late for that. It's not 1980 anymore.

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You can't charge someone legally for breaking a company policy. Policies are not law.

If you have a CCW, you can go to stores/hospitals/restaurants that have no-gun signs and legally walk right past them. Breaking policy, yes. The law, no.
That actually depends on what state you are in. In Texas it is a crime to carry a weapon inside of a building with the 30.06 30.07 no gun signs displayed.
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You can't charge someone legally for breaking a company policy. Policies are not law.

If you have a CCW, you can go to stores/hospitals/restaurants that have no-gun signs and legally walk right past them. Breaking policy, yes. The law, no.
It varies by state. Some states (inc. Ohio), the sign carries legal weight so long as it has the proper words and is visible. Alaska doesn't care what the sign says, it's legally binding. Others don't care what it says or where it is, it's a simple suggestion.
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You can't charge someone legally for breaking a company policy. Policies are not law.

If you have a CCW, you can go to stores/hospitals/restaurants that have no-gun signs and legally walk right past them. Breaking policy, yes. The law, no.
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That actually depends on what state you are in. In Texas it is a crime to carry a weapon inside of a building with the 30.06 30.07 no gun signs displayed.
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It varies by state. Some states (inc. Ohio), the sign carries legal weight so long as it has the proper words and is visible. Alaska doesn't care what the sign says, it's legally binding. Others don't care what it says or where it is, it's a simple suggestion.
Yep, in MS, there are specifics to the signage size, location and wording.

But, you are trespassing if you are on someone else's property and are doing something they ask you not to do or don't enter. Property Rights.
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the funny thing about these statements is that the 'but' is always where the first part gets turned into an obvious lie
lmao im sure if you saw that guy walking through the walmart you wouldnt even bat an eye, right?

just shut up, no one believes your tough guy retard nonsense.
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In light of recent events, good on this kid for being prepared! Yes , carrying a capable firearm and body armor is being prepared.

Couple of snow flakes posting above, and fake 2A supporters with their “but”.

Hope the store manager gets charged for inducing panic by pulling the fire alarm and gets charged for improperly setting off the fire alarm. Hope the off duty firefighters gets charged with kidnapping at gun point and brandishing a firearm. Hope they also sue the police for false arrest and racial profiling.

The ACLU should be sending up a legal team to win this civil rights easy case.
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This guy gets it. Kid did not a thing wrong. I would sue the fucking pants off of the firefighter. If you pull a gun on me while I am doing nothing wrong you better hope you are a good shot.
Again it depends on the state. The douchebag provided the evidence against himself. Depending on what he said on the video and if it shows what his intentions are, he could very well be charged with disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace or if he even mentioned the word terrorize he is looking at some pretty serious charges. Doesnt matter even if he didnt fire a shot.

If he would have not been videoing his actions it would be a whole different scenario. He did this to scare people thats why he picked a walmart. He wasnt just going about his daily business carrying a long gun. He had a purpose for what he did and Im pretty sure its going to backfire on him.
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Yep, in MS, there are specifics to the signage size, location and wording.

But, you are trespassing if you are on someone else's property and are doing something they ask you not to do or don't enter. Property Rights.
Its not just a trespassing charge in TX. Its a tresspass with a gun charge. Its only a class c misdemeanor if you do it but a class A with upto a year imprisonment if you refuse to leave when asked

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This guy gets it. Kid did not a thing wrong. I would sue the fucking pants off of the firefighter. If you pull a gun on me while I am doing nothing wrong you better hope you are a good shot.
So the kid finds a way to incite panic in a public place while not breaking the law with a gun and makes the news. Congratulations, he's just given lawmakers an excuse to make more laws by being a douchebag. There are going to be tons of people asking why what this kid did wasn't illegal.

Why are all you guys ok with this? That kid is screwing it up for the rest of us.

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Inducing Panic could be charged :shrug:

Inducing panic is when a person causes the evacuation of any public place, or otherwise cause serious public inconvenience or alarm, by doing any of the following:

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I'm pro 2A but this moron is a complete douche rag
Agreed. And here in VA you can be charged with disorderly conduct iirc if you're open carrying and people freak out.
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With great freedom comes great responsibility. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's something that is socially responsible or polite. Your freedom of speech gives you the right to walk up to everyone you meet and tell them to go fuck themselves but you don't do it because it's a dumbass thing to do and makes you a fucking asshole. What this kid did is the 2A version of that.

The other thing is that our rights aren't absolute. They can, have, and will be infringed. Doing stupid shit like this is the type of thing that gets the fence sitters who don't hold a strong opinion either way to side with the anti-gun crowd.
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So the kid finds a way to incite panic in a public place while not breaking the law with a gun and makes the news. Congratulations, he's just given lawmakers an excuse to make more laws by being a douchebag. There are going to be tons of people asking why what this kid did wasn't illegal.

Why are all you guys ok with this? That kid is screwing it up for the rest of us.
Its not ok and Aisin doesnt know what hes talking about. I guarantee this kid gets charged. The local DA or if hes really unlucky the AUSA in the area isnt going to just let this slide. With the current events post 9/11 America isnt somewhere you want to be screaming "the sky is falling!". Its his video thats going to fuck him.
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I am just confused as to why with all of the shit inside a walmart someone couldn't find something to subdue that douchebag with. I mean for fucks sake have you ever tried throwing a box full of treble hooks at someone. Or jasmine and buttermilk hair conditioner into a persons eyes. Lets not forget the aisle full of scissors and kitchen knives I mean that store is like its own private arsenal every 3 aisle of things you could hurt or kill someone with. You don't need a gun in there and even have a section for that.
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Its not ok and Aisin doesnt know what hes talking about. I guarantee this kid gets charged. The local DA or if hes really unlucky the AUSA in the area isnt going to just let this slide. With the current events post 9/11 America isnt somewhere you want to be screaming "the sky is falling!". Its his video thats going to fuck him.
Exactly, we have a strong 1A here, but if you go into a theatre and yell fire you will be charged at minimum with inciting violence. Im OK with that, even though i think our 1A is a sacred right of western civilization.
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Even with what I said above, If I saw the kid walk into Wal-mart., I'd probably head on over to Lowes. I ain't no hero. My pistol is meant to get me out of a bad situation, not to get me into one. I wouldn't call the cops ,either.

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I agree with that, and it is the best advice. I watched the video from a similar store that had an active shooter & a cowboy pulled out his CCW to save the day, and a lady pushing a shopping cart working with the active shooter shot him right in the back.

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Not me, but most people say if he was black/brown he would be dead.
If he was black or brown he wouldn't have had the forethought/subtlety to do any of this anyhow, and would have lost his cool and started acting like an ape as soon as he walked through the doors.
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With great freedom comes great responsibility. Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's something that is socially responsible or polite. Your freedom of speech gives you the right to walk up to everyone you meet and tell them to go fuck themselves but you don't do it because it's a dumbass thing to do and makes you a fucking asshole. What this kid did is the 2A version of that.

The other thing is that our rights aren't absolute. They can, have, and will be infringed. Doing stupid shit like this is the type of thing that gets the fence sitters who don't hold a strong opinion either way to side with the anti-gun crowd.
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If he was black or brown he wouldn't have had the forethought/subtlety to do any of this anyhow, and would have lost his cool and started acting like an ape as soon as he walked through the doors.
You forgot to start that with "I'm not racist but...."
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If he was black or brown he wouldn't have had the forethought/subtlety to do any of this anyhow, and would have lost his cool and started acting like an ape as soon as he walked through the doors.
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If you have a CCW, you can go to stores/hospitals/restaurants that have no-gun signs and legally walk right past them. Breaking policy, yes. The law, no.
Many states have laws that with a proper sign, a store can legally disallow CCW. To violate it is a criminal offense.

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