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Old 08-20-2019, 05:11 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Old 08-20-2019, 09:31 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Wondering why the super intelligent liberal democrats don't kick Bernie Sanders the registered independant to the curb?
Motherfucker is registered independant, make the socialist run as a 3rd party candidate.
I realize, he wouldn't get bought out like Hitlery did last time, but they should boot him out on his own.
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Wondering why the super intelligent liberal democrats don't kick Bernie Sanders the registered independant to the curb?
Motherfucker is registered independant, make the socialist run as a 3rd party candidate.
I realize, he wouldn't get bought out like Hitlery did last time, but they should boot him out on his own.
Bernie is what Democrats have always really wanted. Socialist, public healthcare, welfare state, all of that. He is more Democrat than anyone with a D next to their name!
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:35 AM   #129 (permalink)
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Bernie is what Democrats have always really wanted. Socialist, public healthcare, welfare state, all of that. He is more Democrat than anyone with a D next to their name!
Just a few short years ago, Bernie was so radical that he was not even in the democrat party. Now he's been out-Bernie'd by most democrat presidential candidates, so he has nothing to offer and is polling numbers reflect it. That's how much the democrat party has changed in such a short time.
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:41 AM   #130 (permalink)
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Just a few short years ago, Bernie was so radical that he was not even in the democrat party. Now he's been out-Bernie'd by most democrat presidential candidates, so he has nothing to offer and is polling numbers reflect it. That's how much the democrat party has changed in such a short time.
The party DNC has changed somewhat, but outside of blue-collar union types, the people who typically vote D haven't changed one bit, and they are getting what they wanted all along.
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Old 08-21-2019, 07:10 AM   #131 (permalink)
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Wow.

I get that the average American is pretty stupid, but you're really willing to paint them as barely being able to function on a daily basis.
I'm not calling them barely functional, but basically yes.
This is true.

If you think it is sad..your right...dosent make it any less true.

I believe what this country needs is proof that the Government works for us, and if they aren't we WILL rise up and replace them by force.
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This is true.

If you think it is sad..your right...dosent make it any less true.

I believe what this country needs is proof that the Government works for us, and if they aren't we WILL rise up and replace them by force.
who gives a flying fuck what YOU believe and do you have a mouse in your pocket?
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You can't have a successful third party without competitive congressional districts. Legitimate coin flip districts unencumbered by gerrymandering. When you have competitive districts you have fertile ground for third parties and independents to operate. You start amassing talent at the local level, eventually state and federal. Doing it at the top of the ticket is pretty futile, but there is hope at the local level, and again it starts with competitive congressional district and participation in your local politics.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:19 AM   #134 (permalink)
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You can't have a successful third party without competitive congressional districts. Legitimate coin flip districts unencumbered by gerrymandering. When you have competitive districts you have fertile ground for third parties and independents to operate. You start amassing talent at the local level, eventually state and federal. Doing it at the top of the ticket is pretty futile, but there is hope at the local level, and again it starts with competitive congressional district and participation in your local politics.
which brings us right back to
two major parties control all redistricting and ballot rules.
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Old 08-21-2019, 08:36 AM   #135 (permalink)
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I haven't read all 6 pages of this horse shit but the Party system is the biggest problem to this country. They should be illegal. Make canditates stand on their own 2 feet and vote how they feel their constituants want them to. Not how a Party (that only has their own interests in mind) tells them to. One of the biggest issues our country faces is these two jackass parties telling everybody the other party is going to ruin their lives. Get rid of parties, save the county. Adding a new one is going to make things worse.
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I haven't read all 6 pages of this horse shit but the Party system is the biggest problem to this country. They should be illegal. Make canditates stand on their own 2 feet and vote how they feel their constituants want them to. Not how a Party (that only has their own interests in mind) tells them to. One of the biggest issues our country faces is these two jackass parties telling everybody the other party is going to ruin their lives. Get rid of parties, save the county. Adding a new one is going to make things worse.
so we would never get anything passed with all the pissing and moaning. which may not be a bad thing. but every time there was some bull shit they would act on their emotions and pass a stupid law.
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so we would never get anything passed with all the pissing and moaning. which may not be a bad thing. but every time there was some bull shit they would act on their emotions and pass a stupid law.
and this seems different than the current situation how?

shit, republicans had majorities in the house and senate and controlled the white house for two years and didn't do jack shit they stated.

now we're back to deadlock, and that's just how they want it. So they can pander and bray loudly about how the other side is evil when they don't get their law passed, that no one really planned on passing anyway.

again, fucking pro wrestling.
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shit, republicans had majorities in the house and senate and controlled the white house for two years and didn't do jack shit they stated.
Stop with the demo lie. The Republicans had a majority, they did not control the house and senate. Just a majority does not give them control. Hell, they didn't really even have majority because of some RINOs.
The Dems had control of all three for two years and that's what got us Bummercare.
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Stop with the demo lie. The Republicans had a majority, they did not control the house and senate. Just a majority does not give them control. Hell, they didn't really even have majority because of some RINOs.
The Dems had control of all three for two years and that's what got us Bummercare.

stop with the R apologetics.

if they truly wanted to get shit done they could have.

but as I have said repeatedly, I'll even capitalize it and type it slow for you:
THEY
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PARTY

They all support big government, they just have differing ideas of how to profit from it and fuck the american citizen with it.


if you support this partisan bullshit that they've created over the last 60 years,while obviously colluding with each other to deprive you of rights, you're the fucking problem.

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and go ahead and tell me what was wrong about "they had a majority in both houses"
you're own fucking statement reinforces that.
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and this seems different than the current situation how?

shit, republicans had majorities in the house and senate and controlled the white house for two years and didn't do jack shit they stated.

now we're back to deadlock, and that's just how they want it. So they can pander and bray loudly about how the other side is evil when they don't get their law passed, that no one really planned on passing anyway.

again, fucking pro wrestling.

Sorry to tell ya but this never happened. Totally false...

1952 They held both house and senate under a Democratic pres.

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some of you need to fucking read a dictionary

2016 house of representatives, R 247 seats D 188 seats
2016 senate R 52 D 46

those are majorities.
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Laws don’t pass by majorities.
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Please expand.
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Please expand.
I can.

"we had a majority, but not enough of a majority to pass laws because the other side wouldn't support anything we wanted to do."


and there it is, turned into another us vs them or we lose everything argument.


it's almost like if you have a majority the system was setup so that you still needed to work with the other side to get shit done, but that does not change the fact that they still had majorities in both houses of the legislature and were so fucking incompetent that they couldn't manage to get a single fucking thing done, not even a fucking budget.

also, the statement I made was 100% true. They did indeed have majorities in the legislative branch and failed to do shit.

speaking of budget, I thought the R's were for less spending? how's that working out?
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some of you need to fucking read a dictionary

2016 house of representatives, R 247 seats D 188 seats
2016 senate R 52 D 46

those are majorities.
Truth is, just look at your eager initial statement. You simply suggested that the majority couldn't get anything done???

Trump and Pence were formerly elected December 19'th 2016. On that day, the Republicans held majorities in both the house and senate until the next election January 3'rd 2017. So there was indeed a Republican majority for 15 FUCKING DAYS! Now come on with your statement???
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and we all know what the house leader thought of trump. weasley bastard
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Truth is, just look at your eager initial statement. You simply suggested that the majority couldn't get anything done???

Trump and Pence were formerly elected December 19'th 2016. On that day, the Republicans held majorities in both the house and senate until the next election January 3'rd 2017. So there was indeed a Republican majority for 15 FUCKING DAYS! Now come on with your statement???
Huh? House and Senate were both controlled by Republicans through the 115th congress.

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I can.

"we had a majority, but not enough of a majority to pass laws because the other side wouldn't support anything we wanted to do."


and there it is, turned into another us vs them or we lose everything argument.


it's almost like if you have a majority the system was setup so that you still needed to work with the other side to get shit done, but that does not change the fact that they still had majorities in both houses of the legislature and were so fucking incompetent that they couldn't manage to get a single fucking thing done, not even a fucking budget.

also, the statement I made was 100% true. They did indeed have majorities in the legislative branch and failed to do shit.

speaking of budget, I thought the R's were for less spending? how's that working out?
I'm asking him to expand because I don't agree with his comment. A majority in the house, then a majority in the senate, and then a President signing it is how we get a bill/act passed. Supermajority doesn't matter if you have all 3, only if you have both house and senate and not the presidency.

About the only real argument anyone could have imo is that Republicans were unwilling to work with Trump and treated him like the outsider he was, and radioactive due to the bullshit Mueller investigation. Now that it's over, and John McCain has exited stage left, they lost the house and grid lock is the norm.

Amazing how we've had so many Republicans show their balls now that McCain is gone. I will always wonder what all he had on everybody.
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Truth is, just look at your eager initial statement. You simply suggested that the majority couldn't get anything done???

Trump and Pence were formerly elected December 19'th 2016. On that day, the Republicans held majorities in both the house and senate until the next election January 3'rd 2017. So there was indeed a Republican majority for 15 FUCKING DAYS! Now come on with your statement???
15 days is an eternity if you have your shit together.

why were there not bills waiting to be signed on his desk the day after the inauguration?

oh, maybe because half the republicans hate the other half, while proclaiming that they're the only way you can beat the evil democrats, of which half of those hate the other half for varying reasons, and also claim that they are the one true salvation to beating the evil republicans, while both sides are making deals with the other sides involved to benefit themselves in some way while they all say the other side is impossible to work with?

does that adequately sum up the situation in washington DC?

so again, the republicans had a majority and did nothing, and they claim it's because reasons, and you all fucking eat it up while they team up with the other side in the continual fucking of the american republic.


and you wonder why I cal ardent D and R supporters fucking morons.

you fucking morons.
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Just a few short years ago, Bernie was so radical that he was not even in the democrat party. Now he's been out-Bernie'd by most democrat presidential candidates, so he has nothing to offer and is polling numbers reflect it. That's how much the democrat party has changed in such a short time.
So, he was like a third party? That's kinda cool.

He was like Brawndo, and what our country craves.
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15 days is an eternity if you have your shit together. ...
Yep, imagine if you might be charged with treason.
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