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View Poll Results: Will Trump sign an assault weapon ban? Pick one.
Red Flag 37 30.83%
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:30 AM   #151 (permalink)
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We can and will ban assault weapons, possibly inculding semi-auto handguns if needs be. It is possible and it is probable.

You see, you can't hide from random wackos, it's not a choice you have. That's where your analogy broke down.
I believe "assault with a deadly weapon" isn't excusive to firearms. A baseball bat could be an assault weapon used in a mass murder but not one wants to ban bats and keep them out of the hands of the random wackos.

Just ban bullets. Much easier.

Who are the big mass shooters you speak of? Criminals? Young people? People legally purchasing firearms?


EDIT: I see a revival of the 1994 ban plus some clarifying language to add features like bump stocks even though they're federally illegal and magazine capacity because why not.

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Old 08-21-2019, 10:36 AM   #152 (permalink)
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I believe "assault with a deadly weapon" isn't excusive to firearms. A baseball bat could be an assault weapon used in a mass murder but not one wants to ban bats and keep them out of the hands of the random wackos.

Just ban bullets. Much easier.

Who are the big mass shooters you speak of? Criminals? Young people? People legally purchasing firearms?


EDIT: I see a revival of the 1994 ban plus some clarifying language to add features like bump stocks even though they're federally illegal and magazine capacity because why not.
the big question is, will it only prohibit the sale, or will they attempt to retroactively ban possession like bump stocks?
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:50 AM   #153 (permalink)
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I believe "assault with a deadly weapon" isn't excusive to firearms. A baseball bat could be an assault weapon used in a mass murder but not one wants to ban bats and keep them out of the hands of the random wackos.
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Yeah, some guy gonna kill 50 and injure 400 in one sitting with a baseball bat?

Interesting take on reality you have.
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Yeah, some guy gonna kill 50 and injure 400 in one sitting with a baseball bat?

Interesting take on reality you have.
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Yeah, some guy gonna kill 50 and injure 400 in one sitting with a baseball bat?

Interesting take on reality you have.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_stabbings
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Old 08-21-2019, 11:12 AM   #156 (permalink)
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And since he's a total fuck up and can never legally own firearms, he actively petitions for others to not have that right either.
Exactly, that's the way it works. Hang together or hang seperately.

I have absolutely no interest in supporting your gun 'rights' at all. My interest is in chiseling off that next piece of the stump until the narrative is either forced to change and accept that my lifetime ban is Unconstitutional, or everyone loses their 'rights' and is equal to me.

Either way, all signs point to Vote Democrat and support Gun Control. And, since I'm not a felon, I can vote, hold office, and start a Political Action 501. Which I may do, now that I think about it.

That would make good copy. Reformed Domestic Abuser and former Republican Veteran sees the light, I could be a powerful voice on the State and perhaps National levels. I speak quite convincingly on an extemporaneous basis.

But what it really comes down to is you abandon me, I abandon you. Political power is built on coalitions, and your set is definitely in reverse. I say accelerate.
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sadly that attitude is also fucking everyone else that doesn't think prohibited persons should exist.
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I didn't bother to look, there's not one on there with 50 dead and 400 injured.
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I didn't bother to look, there's not one on there with 50 dead and 400 injured.
but aren't all the lives important?

"if we save just one child"
is the mantra of gun control advocates is it not?
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sadly that attitude is also fucking everyone else that doesn't think prohibited persons should exist.
Yeah because the responses in this thread indicate that I was about to change everyone's mind and get them to support Legislation which reverses the Lautenberg Amendment.

Gun owners are scared. Scared animals don't listen to reason, they respond to stimuli.

Stimulate them until they have to accept it, or everyone loses. Everything else is status quo bullshit, and the status quo does not benefit me.
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Yeah because the responses in this thread indicate that I was about to change everyone's mind and get them to support Legislation which reverses the Lautenberg Amendment.

Gun owners are scared. Scared animals don't listen to reason, they respond to stimuli.

Stimulate them until they have to accept it, or everyone loses. Everything else is status quo bullshit, and the status quo does not benefit me.
there's actually been quite a few GCC regulars that have espoused that view, myself included.

fuck, I'm for full restoration of all rights once you serve your time and are off parole/probation.

if I can't trust you with a firearm, why the fuck did we let you out the prison?
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there's actually been quite a few GCC regulars that have espoused that view, myself included.

fuck, I'm for full restoration of all rights once you serve your time and are off parole/probation.

if I can't trust you with a firearm, why the fuck did we let you out the prison?
I'd say it's the most commonly held view on the subject here. You probably won't find as many who agree in one place on the internet.
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I didn't bother to look, there's not one on there with 50 dead and 400 injured.
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Back on topic - https://www.wgbh.org/news/national-n...aign=WGBH+News

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump insisted Tuesday that the U.S. already has "very, very strong background checks" for gun purchases in the latest sign that he is backing away from throwing his political support behind changes to the system that are opposed by the powerful gun lobby.

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Trump also noted "a lot of the people that put me where I am are strong believers in the Second Amendment," and suggested he worries about blurring the contrast between Republicans and Democrats on the issue.

"We have to be very careful about that," he said.
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I love how they're always "the powerful gun lobby"

do they describe other lobbying groups the same way?
do they not realize that the money to pay for lobbyists comes from the pockets of american citizens?
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I love how they're always "the powerful gun lobby"

do they describe other lobbying groups the same way?
do they not realize that the money to pay for lobbyists comes from the pockets of american citizens?
Maybe "big pharma".

I laugh whenever a liberal leaning friend refers to it in that manner and other similar ones. I have to remind him that he's speaking to the membership right then and there.

I'm a GOA guy but NRA still gets a little of my money. Many don't like them, but I choose not to ignore the lobbying power of the largest group one can join.
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So the noob isn't going to tell me why I shouldn't be allowed to own an "assault weapon"??
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So the noob isn't going to tell me why I shouldn't be allowed to own an "assault weapon"??
To be fair, you didn't provide any reason to be going over the top.

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To be fair, you didn't provide any reason to be going over the top.

well if we're gonna do it like that then we all need machine guns.

I'm down with a vickers or maxim.

either really.
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well if we're gonna do it like that then we all need machine guns.

I'm down with a vickers or maxim.

either really.
As long as we can agree he's assaulting with a rifle.
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Old 08-21-2019, 04:51 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Gun owners are scared.

Since YOU cannot own a gun, I sure as fuck don't recall you getting or receiving permission from even a single gun owner to speak for them. I'm going to say, you ASSumed incorrectly, again. Speaking for myself and the gun owners I speak to, we are NOT scared or even concerned. I myself don't see anything to be worried about. Now if Criminal Clinton was in charge, we wouldn't even be having this conversation as we would be well beyond a gun ban to talk about.

You truly are one crayon eating, low IQ fool!
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The irony is that most libertarian-minded people I know are in favor of restoring all rights once the debt to society has been paid. But when you have fucks like ever douche spouting off with his fuck you because you can and I can’t attitude, it’s very difficult to have any sympathy or support for him. And that is without mentioning that had he not been a fuckup in the first place, he’d have nothing to complain about, but I suppose blaming others for your own transgressions is the in thing to do these days.

Still waiting to know why I shouldn’t be allowed to own an “assault weapon”...
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