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Old 09-05-2019, 10:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Pancreatic cancer chemo

My dad has cancer and they say there is no hope of a cure. There is a Doctor that wants to do chemo to lesson the pain. My wife (who's a nurse) says she has not heard of this. She says the chemo will slow the progress, but not do shit for pain. My dad is in terrible pain right now and is taking oxi cotton. He is of the opinion if this keeps up, he wants a cynide pill. Could the doctor just be trying to make money? My dad has excellent insurance and it won't cost us anything, but I don't trust doctors. (Anybody really)

Do any of you know about chemo for this cancer?
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No idea, but sounds like tough situation, best of luck.
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I’d assume chemo treatments is the line of attempting to treat pancreatic cancer. But the abdominal pain isn’t going to just go away. Pancreatic cancer isn’t fun stuff. Unless your Alex trabec apparently
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Awful situation. I'm truly sorry.
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My dad has cancer and they say there is no hope of a cure. There is a Doctor that wants to do chemo to lesson the pain. My wife (who's a nurse) says she has not heard of this. She says the chemo will slow the progress, but not do shit for pain. My dad is in terrible pain right now and is taking oxi cotton. He is of the opinion if this keeps up, he wants a cynide pill. Could the doctor just be trying to make money? My dad has excellent insurance and it won't cost us anything, but I don't trust doctors. (Anybody really)

Do any of you know about chemo for this cancer?
A good friend died from that shit and he was told all chemo would do was slow it down a bit, but he'd feel like absolute shit from the chemo as well the pain from the cancer. He had a pain pump installed and that helped more than taking the pills.
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My uncle passed from pancreatic cancer at home. He was diagnosed with it 6 months earlier and didnt tell anyone untill about a week before he went. No treatments at all and was only in debilitating pain for about a week.

How much longer are they saying he has
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I just finished chemo, it makes you feel like shit 6 out of the 7 days of the week.
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I hate to hear that, condolences to your family.

However, it irks me that RBG can survive multiple surgeries and decades from the same illness, and good people have to suffer.
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chemo is poison.
literally.
it's effect is to kill the fastest multiplying cells in your body.

things like taste and smell get fucked up.
and sensitivity to hot and cold.

unless they could offer me at least 50/50 odds on remission afterwards, fuck chemo.
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My uncle passed from pancreatic cancer at home. He was diagnosed with it 6 months earlier and didnt tell anyone untill about a week before he went. No treatments at all and was only in debilitating pain for about a week.

How much longer are they saying he has
They are saying 3 months. I don't know if you guys know anything about "vianual investments", but the key is virtually all doctors say you have more time than you do.

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I just finished chemo, it makes you feel like shit 6 out of the 7 days of the week.
I'm sorry for your situation. Was this for pancreatic? I have had friends that had prostrate chemo and it sucked, but it worked.

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I hate to hear that, condolences to your family.

However, it irks me that RBG can survive multiple surgeries and decades from the same illness, and good people have to suffer.
This thought has passed through my mind also. She is probably monitored constantly. My dad will not go to a doctor until he is literally dying. The only positive thing I can say right now is he made it 96 years with his mind working. Even now he is not bedridden yet.
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At this point it doesn't hurt to try. If it makes him feel worse he can stop taking it. Any idea what med it is? "Chemotherapy" is a very broad term and can be anything from immunotherapy to standard cyotoxic chemos that we associate with the side effects to hormones to steroids like prednisone. Any idea what they want to give him?
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My Late Father in Law died of Pancreatic Cancer in 2013. When they found it he was already at stage 4. He was given the option of treatment (Chemo/Radiation) or just do nothing but pain management. They said he would probably live six months if he opted for treatment and it would be pretty miserable. He opted just for pain management. He lived about a month and the last week was pretty rough, not going to lie.

He would never consider physician assisted suicide, it is legal here in Oregon. He just didn't believe in it. I can't imagine how hard of choices those would be to make. When we aren't truly faced with them it is easier to say I would do this or that. He went on his terms, he died at home surrounded by family.

I would say fuck chemo and spend as much time as you can with him. Enjoy every moment and make every moment as happy as you can.
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He went on his terms, he died at home surrounded by family.

I would say fuck chemo and spend as much time as you can with him. Enjoy every moment and make every moment as happy as you can.
That's the option my friend took. Him and his wife went on some "bucket list trips" in their motor home and visited family.
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I know three people that got pancreatic cancer. All three died within a very short time after being diagnosed. Sad situation for anyone who gets it apparently.

OP - is/was your father a smoker? All three people I know who got it were heavy smokers and I'm curious if that's a contributing factor.
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I'm sorry for your situation. Was this for pancreatic? I have had friends that had prostrate chemo and it sucked, but it worked.
no not pancreatic, was to kill the cancer that took out my kidneys. i am in remission they say. been off chemo 6 weeks
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My mom died from this in 2002. She did two rounds of chemo and after the second round she said enough was enough. As others have said she was down from the chemo 6 out of 7 days. She wanted one last holiday season. She took her pills ( I think oxy) and we had a great holiday. She was only in hospice for a week and she was on heavy duty pain killers.

I would get a second opinion. Even if you do a search on chemo for pain management nothing comes up except for taking other pills to deal with the chemo. Either this is very new or the guy just wants money.
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Iíd assume chemo treatments is the line of attempting to treat pancreatic cancer. But the abdominal pain isnít going to just go away. Pancreatic cancer isnít fun stuff. Unless your Alex trabec apparently
Or Ruth Bader Ginsburg. . .

Maybe slowing the growth with chemo eases the pain? Sorry to hear about the shitty situation. Best wishes.
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Or Ruth Bader Ginsburg. . .

Maybe slowing the growth with chemo eases the pain? Sorry to hear about the shitty situation. Best wishes.
Chemo looks like it is horrible...grandpa has had something like 17 treatments. He doesn't have pancreatic , but i can tell you in the past few years the times that he looked.the worse and had a couple times where we thought it was his time....right after chemo.


I can't imagine having the hope of controlling cancer through chemo while having to ensure the pain of chemo. He always looked horrible and just disconnected from anything after a treatment.

He is still.going strong a very tough man, but I think I wouldn't have made it past the first few treatments.
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Sorry to hear, pancreatic is one of the worse ones. My father in-law passed from this in April, it was only a few months from identifying it to the end. As stated above, the last week was not good. The wife and I were there doing round the clock care for him with her other siblings. I feel for ya, it's a rough go.
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I feel like during my lifetime, we will look back at using chemo and compare it to leaches and bloodletting.
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My mother died from pancreatic cancer. She was on Chemo for the last 6 months of her life and I think it was the wrong thing to do. She was miserable. It would have been nice if Mom and Dad could have taken one final weekend trip to (name the destination) but she always felt horrible.

Then she had a blockage in her intestines that was going to kill her in a few days. Doc said surgery may give her another 4-6 month. Mom asked my brother and I what she should do. At that point, we knew the end was coming but by having the surgery, it would give my Dad comfort that we did everything we could. She had the surgery and died a week later from a stroke.

No one survives pancreatic cancer. Manage the pain and cherish what little time you have left.
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I feel like during my lifetime, we will look back at using chemo and compare it to leaches and bloodletting.
My wife has currently completed 2 out of 6 chemo treatments, for breast cancer. She then faces 4 weeks (5 days a week) of radiation treatment after that.

Her type cancer has aggressive, and did not appear on her mammogram 4 months earlier. She found the lump herself. FORTUNATELY, the cancer was removed, did not spread to the lymph nodes.

Without chemo, she has a 58% of her cancer coming back. With chemo, she has 14% of it coming back.

Next week on 9/11, will be our 42nd anniversary. It's breaking my heart seeing what she is going through right now. There are times we both just hold each other and cry. But we both agree that by her doing the chemo, our chances of more years together will make it worth it.

Until something better comes along and chemo / radiation treatment is all there is; then sometimes you just have to hang your hopes on what's available.

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a family friend was diagnosed about 18 months ago with stage III. I don't have all the details, so it may not apply at all, but he ended up at the Mayo for some second opinions and diagnosis.

He is still with us, cancer free, but it was a tough road with surgeries, radiation, and chemo. Until his battle, I had no idea they could remove portions of the pancreas...

Second and Third opinions are worth the time/effort/expense...
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a family friend was diagnosed about 18 months ago with stage III. I don't have all the details, so it may not apply at all, but he ended up at the Mayo for some second opinions and diagnosis.

He is still with us, cancer free, but it was a tough road with surgeries, radiation, and chemo. Until his battle, I had no idea they could remove portions of the pancreas...

Second and Third opinions are worth the time/effort/expense...
My father was hit with it late 2015. Had whipple surgery at emory early 2016, followed by chemo, then radiation. 70's, non smoker, under 200 lbs exercises etc, has been for years, Surgury almost killed him with complications and sepsis, 2 weeks in icu on tube etc

Some how he is still with us. Check out mayo and emory. I met some smart motherfuckers at emory
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A good friend died from that shit and he was told all chemo would do was slow it down a bit, but he'd feel like absolute shit from the chemo as well the pain from the cancer. He had a pain pump installed and that helped more than taking the pills.
Morphine ? that shit is no joke.
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