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Old 09-10-2019, 10:13 AM   #76 (permalink)
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90% of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and their production is at an all time high. Our dope habit is financing the opposition we’re fighting. Make heroin trafficking a terrorism charge punishable by death and enforce it. I think Duterte has the right idea.
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90% of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and their production is at an all time high. Our dope habit is financing the opposition we’re fighting. Make heroin trafficking a terrorism charge punishable by death and enforce it. I think Duterte has the right idea.
Oh, double down on the war on drugs Mr. Reagan?
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Oh, double down on the war on drugs Mr. Reagan?
Win. In for a penny, in for a pound. We’ve engaged in a vicious circle of drugs and terror where the winner will be the most viscous. It ain’t pretty.
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90% of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and their production is at an all time high. Our dope habit is financing the opposition we’re fighting. Make heroin trafficking a terrorism charge punishable by death and enforce it. I think Duterte has the right idea.
or make all the drugs legal and end the black market that allows illegal drugs to make billions of dollars in untraceable cash?
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al jazeera had a different article but i can't quite find it. the number 2 or 3 source of funding for 'taliban groups' behind the drug trade is illegal mining.

mining is also a great opportunity that is being hamstrung as well. hell even if they allowed american (or others, but fuck e'erybody else) companies to consult, secure and oversee operations. the benefit paid to the afghan govt for extraction, the jobs created around the industry and the security provided to the outlying regions would be substantial. there is more money in peace. sure, it ain't oil money, but it is still substantial

IF they could get their shit together, but they don't see interested in that
Like most if not all 3rd world shitholes corruption is a huge problem. Those duffel bags full of US dollars didn't make it down to the subsistence farmers. so they grow opium for a cash crop, and even then I doubt they get to keep all the money they make from growing poppies.
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90% of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and their production is at an all time high. Our dope habit is financing the opposition we’re fighting. Make heroin trafficking a terrorism charge punishable by death and enforce it. I think Duterte has the right idea.
91% of the heroin in the US comes from Mexican production. The new cheap Mexican heroin is part of the problem with the rise in addiction. Afghanistan heroin is really a problem for Russia and Europe.


FYI, ~35% of Afghanistan GDP comes from opium production .
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91% of the heroin in the US comes from Mexican production. The new cheap Mexican heroin is part of the problem with the rise in addiction. Afghanistan heroin is really a problem for Russia and Europe.


FYI, ~35% of Afghanistan GDP comes from opium production .
the "rise" in addiction came when the state decided that there were too many prescription pain pills being prescribed.

so being the state they decided to cut off the adiccts from the supply without fully understanding what would happen. Ohio was the first, and is ground zero for the "epidemic"

funny when they were all doing oxycontin people weren't getting dead from tainted heroin by the dozens, and we didn't need naloxone hanging on the walls in public buildings.
but now that the state forced all those addicts to the streets, it's a fucking epidemic and we've got to do something about it!

but there hasn't been a rise in addicts, they just had to go get drugs that weren't safe, so there's simply been a rise in the deaths from overdoses.

once again proving that the war on drugs creates the problems, not the drugs. All the violence, overdoses and money laundering happens as a result of the prohibition.

you'd think we would have learned that when we gave birth to organized crime in this country during the 20s, the first time we tried prohibition.
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90% of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and their production is at an all time high. Our dope habit is financing the opposition we’re fighting. Make heroin trafficking a terrorism charge punishable by death and enforce it. I think Duterte has the right idea.
defunding a specific alphabet soup agencie will slow it down
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And here we see that despite a gun buyback for Taliban fighters, the violence seems to continue...weird.

Fuck the Taliban. We’re so over dealing with these asshats that a lot of insanely grievous options for dealing with them seem more and more prudent each day. How many times have we written about this shitty peace process where we sit and sue for peace, while these slapdick ass mofos continue to strap bombs to people and load up cars with explosives and kill our people? Countless. We’re certain that we’re beating the dead great-great-great-grandson of the first dead horse we beat over this dumb shit. YET, here we are again. Talking about it once more because well, we keep doing to same lame shit over and over and over again, and we keep getting the same shit results over and over and over again.

Now obviously, we’re not experts on foreign policy. If we were, we’d get paid a lot more by some think tank to speculate on the same shit using $20 words that you only learn through the dedicated reading of a dictionary…which we may have had to do once in elementary school because we were trouble makers as kids, BUT…that is neither here nor there, nor now. Now we’re seeing a breakdown in the “peace” process with the Taliban as we negotiate exactly how the United States military will leave that country.

Mind you these peace talks are being held between the United States and the Taliban only. The current Afghani government has been excluded, so that goes to show you exactly how fucking great this whole process was, to begin with.

Meanwhile, President Trump has declared the peace talks with the Taliban dead after this latest round of disagreements. We may still leave even with no peace deal. We also may not. The president has expressed a desire that we shouldn’t be the world’s police force, but that we needed to get out at the right time…the right time could mean after all Taliban are made unalive, who fuckin’ knows anymore?

So here, again, like always, we’re going to say..if we’re not going to leave, then we need to murder death kill every single loyal Taliban fighter or supporter. Fuck the Taliban.

If we are going to leave, then we need to just do it. Also still, Fuck the Taliban.

We’ve been riding the fence so long on this shit that the metaphorical splinters in our ass are indistinguishable from the rest of our body. Whatever way we choose to go with, we need to commit to it and just be done with it. Tired of beating this dead horse, as we’re sure many of you are tired of it as well.

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91% of the heroin in the US comes from Mexican production. The new cheap Mexican heroin is part of the problem with the rise in addiction. Afghanistan heroin is really a problem for Russia and Europe.


FYI, ~35% of Afghanistan GDP comes from opium production .
Perfect. Bomb those places and collapse their heroin market.











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Nobody does heroin anymore. Its pills and fentanyl they just call it heroin.
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Nobody does heroin anymore. Its pills and fentanyl they just call it heroin.
You'd be surprised.

But yes, the synthetics are the big thing now. Honestly I don't get why the government isn't just making them and handing them out. They could kill off all the junkies, put the cartels out of business, and lower the country's carbon footprint for a fraction of what is ineffectively spent in a futile effort to do the same thing.
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90% of the world’s heroin comes from Afghanistan, and their production is at an all time high. Our dope habit is financing the opposition we’re fighting. Make heroin trafficking a terrorism charge punishable by death and enforce it. I think Duterte has the right idea.
90% of internet statistics are made up.
50% of heroin profits are spent on shipping.
85% of Muslims are on acid.
22.6% of forum posts are from trolls.
And for the only truth in this post:
You are 100% full of crap.
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The Bush policy of nation building is a failed policy. We went in, defeated the Taliban quickly then trained an Afghan army and let them set up their own governor in the hopes of it being a democratic country. But the people there have been conquered both mentally and physically for so many generations they have no concept of freedom. They only understand dominance. A government that gives the people a choice is sure to fall because it is seen as weak.

Now whether we should have gone there or not in the first place is debatable, as is whether or not we have done any good there or not. But the US has never learned from Korea and Vietnam. You can't fight a political war from Washington ran by bureaucrats. You fight to win, or you fight to stop an advance, but you can't have a war where you only are going to topple a government and then put the same people back in charge.

Now this whole "The US is creating terrorist" talking point is just that: a talking point with no merit, created by the communist in the media. Terrorists hate our freedoms, they are jealous of our success, and they want to defeat us, but this happens whether we are there or not.

They are two different ways to address the issues of the middle east. First is the isolationist policy of stay out of foreign affairs. We recall all troops, shut our borders and no one comes in without strict checks and multiple hoops to jump through. This means border walls and walls in the airport and docks as well. Also we would need the death penalty for any immigration violation. And a real death penalty, not a hold up in courts for the next 50 years. You of course would still need the CIA spying on foreign affairs to watch for threats, for this to work, but basically let the rest of the world do what they want, and we become self sufficient. That last part is why this currently won't work since we are not self sufficient.

The other solution is violence. We completely conquer the country and set up our own government with our own people and rule with an iron fist for a couple of generations. It would be a tremendous undertaking as we would have to defend the country against threats from both outside and inside. Again we would need strict rules and instant death for anyone who steps out of line. I know this sounds a lot like East Berlin, because it is. Only after a couple of generations could we start letting trusted people in the country have some freedom. Then the other people would start to crave freedom as well, so set up hoops for them to jump through to earn their freedom. At that point the people could be able to serve in their own government and work to become a free nation. But we don't have to will to cease the assets of another country and make the long term commitment to do this either.

That leaves us with a less than ideal option of dealing with these people. That is make an example of them. In other words you leave us alone and we will leave you alone. But if you hurt us we kill you, your family and your family's friends. I know this sounds harsh but violence is the only thing that they understand.
I see no one wants to put on their thinking cap, and respond to truth.
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I see no one wants to put on their thinking cap, and respond to truth.

Death penalty for drivers that are caught multiple times not using turn indicators in traffic would also be fun but that ain't happening either.

In other words when half your proposals are more extreme than what bad orange man can't even implement, you might as well STFU and get real.
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Death penalty for drivers that are caught multiple times not using turn indicators in traffic would also be fun but that ain't happening either.

P.S. Turn signal violations need the punishment to fit the crime. They need their license revoked, but cops don't enforce the right laws anyway. Regardless don't try to confuse crime with war.
In other words when half your proposals are more extreme than what bad orange man can't even implement, you might as well STFU and get real.
I know my ideas are extreme. Republicans have a long history of caving in to the left. You don't win a tug of war by giving the other side some more rope. You pull as hard as you can to get them off balance and make them give you rope. My last idea is exactly that. The other ideas are examples of how we could handle this issue if anyone had the guts to take a stand. They are more realistic than someone earlier suggesting that we turn the sand box into the glass field.

But if you want realistic, the Quran teaches Muslims that it is ok to deceive those who do not follow their false religion. It also teaches death to those who will not convert. The war on terror is actually a war on Islam. If you want to stop terror, you eliminate the things that the terrorists believe in. The proper response to 9/11 would be to remove Mecca from the map. But US politicians are too busy kissing up to Saudi kings to nuke Mecca. That is the real problem with the war on terror.

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Death penalty for drivers that are caught multiple times not using turn indicators in traffic would also be fun but that ain't happening either.

In other words when half your proposals are more extreme than what bad orange man can't even implement, you might as well STFU and get real.
OK, Afghanistan is one thing, but fuck you and your turn signals.

I know where I am going and it's none of your fucking business.

Turn signals are nothing but a sign of weakness. It's asking permission. FUCK THAT.

I don't know how it is in South Park (or if that's some lame attempt at trying to be clever), but where I travel, if you signal your intent, you will NEVER get over. People will adjust their speed just to impede your lane changing desires. (Real world)

If we are rewriting law, here is a compromise I can get behind. If I signal, and you don't clear my way within 8 seconds, my tailgunner can open fire and annihilate you and then search out and destroy your entire family. (ain't happening either)

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OK, Afghanistan is one thing, but fuck you and your turn signals.

I know where I am going and it's none of your fucking business.

Turn signals are nothing but a sign of weakness. It's asking permission. FUCK THAT.

I don't know how it is in South Park (or if that's some lame attempt at trying to be clever), but where I travel, if you signal your intent, you will NEVER get over. People will adjust their speed just to impede your lane changing desires. (Real world)

If we are rewriting law, here is a compromise I can get behind. If I signal, and you don't clear my way within 8 seconds, my tailgunner can open fire and annihilate you and then search out and destroy your entire family. (ain't happening either)



But Texas has them there "Drive Friendly" signs.

And South Park is all 2 lane roads, the only extra lanes are where slower vehicles are supposed to move to the right but out of staters don't comprehend "keep right except to pass" so they don't even change lanes much less use turn signals.

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I didn't read that wall of text because one thing jumped out as flat out false, so the rest is moot and unworthy of my time

try again
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But Texas has them there "Drive Friendly" signs.

And South Park is all 2 lane roads, the only extra lanes are where slower vehicles are supposed to move to the right but out of staters don't comprehend "keep right except to pass" so they don't even change lanes much less use turn signals.

Sorry for the threadjack .
Neither do the in-staters. Slow rolling in the left lane is an epidemic everywhere I've ever driven.
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After spending 7 months "training, advising and assisting," fuck 'em. They are an ancient civilization that happens to have smart phones. Pro tip - T-Mobile works there.

Some of my personal favorite behaviors:
- Inshallah-ing crossing the street. Our convoys had to swerve multiple times at 60+mph to avoid someone purposely looking the other way while crossing the street.
- Smiling and saying yes with no intent to actually do what they say.
- Cheating on tests with no shame even after being caught.
- "Selling" (with our money, called "pseudo-FMS") 3k brand new M16s (still in boxes/plastic) and 1M rounds (per month!) of 5.56 to a smiling Afghan Colonel who will just toss the keys to a warlord or straight up Taliban the minute he leaves the base.
- Handing a visa, passport, plane tickets and cash to Afghan military to come to training in the States and watching them promise not to go AWOL (17% in my time).
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Neither do the in-staters. Slow rolling in the left lane is an epidemic everywhere I've ever driven.
Your section of 285 has the largest amount of uphill racer downhill jam on the brake morons I've ever had the displeasure of driving around. Thankfully I don't drive down there more than a couple times a month on average.
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I know my ideas are extreme. Republicans have a long history of caving in to the left. You don't win a tug of war by giving the other side some more rope. You pull as hard as you can to get them off balance and make them give you rope. My last idea is exactly that. The other ideas are examples of how we could handle this issue if anyone had the guts to take a stand. They are more realistic than someone earlier suggesting that we turn the sand box into the glass field.

But if you want realistic, the Quran teaches Muslims that it is ok to deceive those who do not follow their false religion. It also teaches death to those who will not convert. The war on terror is actually a war on Islam. If you want to stop terror, you eliminate the things that the terrorists believe in. The proper response to 9/11 would be to remove Mecca from the map. But US politicians are too busy kissing up to Saudi kings to nuke Mecca. That is the real problem with the war on terror.
so, the drug war is akin to tug of war?

is chess like the card game war?

what will your next analogy be... that a staring contest would work? a game of 'got your nose?'

NOTHING has worked that has been attempted in Afghanistan. Not for a thousand years.

If it has been tried, don't mention it, it doesn't matter.
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