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Old 09-19-2019, 05:56 PM   #51 (permalink)
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They think they know when to hold em, know when to fold em. Thats what the Op meant by fold. They threw in their cards, folded to the "assault" rifles for the general public are bad crowd.

And Holy shit everboob is whacked out.
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Old 09-19-2019, 06:04 PM   #52 (permalink)
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So let me see if I have this right- because people are out using their guns, talking about their guns on instagram, and wearing t-shirts that talk about how great their guns are, it's drawing unnecessary attention to their use?
You're recommending more of a don't ask don't tell approach?
Duh, if nobody asked or told, he would've never lost his gun rights....
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And to address your rant, the current craze I'd very likely due to the 10 year ban on semi-autos. Suddenly something fun was legal again, and the media spend every hour is every day taking about how we need to ban them again. I bought my first AR15 for only one reason, Obama wanted to ban them. The political climate for guns is much better now than in 1994. But, you know, keep yelling at that cloud.
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it took me a long time to finally break down and buy one.

i think there is fewer folks in the gun community, compared to other hobbies, that shit on folks for 'not enough' or 'wrong type'

the shitting is generally on the gun owners who are happy to go back to bans and high costs. they are the true bigots
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And to address your rant, the current craze I'd very likely due to the 10 year ban on semi-autos. Suddenly something fun was legal again, and the media spend every hour is every day taking about how we need to ban them again. I bought my first AR15 for only one reason, Obama wanted to ban them. The political climate for guns is much better now than in 1994. But, you know, keep yelling at that cloud.
I don't want to burst your bubble but s shitload of ARs were sold from 94-2004. They may not have had a bayo lug or threaded muzzle but they were semi auto like they've been since the 60s.


Some of you dumb bastards need to start bad mouthing Les Baer too. They stopped making ARs all together. I bet it was because they were caving to the anti-gun crowd.
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And to address your rant, the current craze I'd very likely due to the 10 year ban on semi-autos. Suddenly something fun was legal again, and the media spend every hour is every day taking about how we need to ban them again. I bought my first AR15 for only one reason, Obama wanted to ban them. The political climate for guns is much better now than in 1994. But, you know, keep yelling at that cloud.
How was it back then?

Would they be able to pass a ban like the 1994 one in the post-Heller world?
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I don't want to burst your bubble but s shitload of ARs were sold from 94-2004. They may not have had a bayo lug or threaded muzzle but they were semi auto like they've been since the 60s.
doesn't matter, the "you can't" attitude was what it takes.

legally, they do a bunch of shit they shouldn't. the 'time marches on' is the mantra of the left.

'these laws won't impact your rights to own guns' is the justification for registration.

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They make a great AR. So do so many others. Also you can build a far better one for less money and have it to your tastes. I think its a move that will bite them long term, but Colt is not going anywhere.


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Yeah, cause that's what Businesses do when there is too much 'demand' for their products. They stop selling the product.



They tell their customers "sorry, we're out, not enough F-150s today!"



You gun fags are delusional. Literally delusional.



It's deliberate Scarcity, you credulous cretins.



tfw you realize that your gun fetish makes you the EXACT SAME consumer as an Apple iBoy.
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... the bs colt is pulling is a joke. I read another article that they said they were not selling enough ar 15s at only 14000 per year, so they decided to give up on the ar market. All the meanwhile, thier revolver sales last year were only 6000 units.. so.. should they not stop selling revolvers before ar15s? Probably, but they wont, because revolvers aren't black and scary.

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I actually agree with evernoob here
... the bs colt is pulling is a joke. I read another article that they said they were not selling enough ar 15s at only 14000 per year, so they decided to give up on the ar market. All the meanwhile, thier revolver sales last year were only 6000 units.. so.. should they not stop selling revolvers before ar15s? Probably, but they wont, because revolvers aren't black and scary.

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Just speaking from the military side of the house. The colt M-16s and M-4s we have are beat to fuck. They take a licking and keep on ticking.

As a line coach I have seen a few FTFs in my day, but most were user failures. Worst thing I saw was a broken firing pin in a rifle that had at least 150,000 rounds through it and was carried for daily duty.

For the beating they take, the Colt M-16s/M-4 are accurate, reliable, and sturdy. No they aren't "1MOA rifles". Yes they are getting old and need to be replaced.

I would trust my life to one any day and twice on Sunday.
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Old 09-19-2019, 08:26 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I love how there is now a class of people who are deemed inferior because they don't own enough, or the right kind guns. I hate to say this, but EverDoucheCanoe is right. You idiots have absoluletly jumped the shark with this shit.
I'm not seeing this. Yes, there are some gun freaks who flaunt their right to bear arms to the point that some people feel uncomfortable but I don't think this rises to level of "jumping the shark"?

With regard to Colt, for sure a private business deciding to "suspend" production of a specific gun model has NOTHING to do with the 2A. This is not a 2A thread. This thread is about free market working as it should.
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Colt never liked selling to the public. After the AWB expired they didn't sell to civy's until their massive army contract ended. So whatever screw Colt. But they are probably right that there are plenty of other choices.

The real reason is there are so many better options that are cheaper than the crap they try to sell. Only .gov will overpay for what they make.
This.

I would take my preban Bushmaster over a colt any day. I'm really liking my Windham after breaking it in also... superior over the colt crap by a large margin.

Fawk Colt. With all the other choices out there, it's still a buyers market.
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.. superior over the colt crap by a large margin.

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What issues did you have with your Colt ARs?
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The CEOs statement does not make sense. I would have expected the civilian market to dwarf military/leon market anyway. I wonder what the real truth is?
Profit margin would be my guess. The gov price is probably much higher than consumer pricing for the same product.

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What issues did you have with your Colt ARs?
Knew this question was coming... besides the old ergonomics and occasional ftf's.

Not a lot. To be fair I did have an older model. A Sporter A2. I actually sold it and got my Bushmaster.

Edit; I haven't owned a Colt in over 25 + years. So, that said... maybe they weren't all crap after that, but the one I had wasn't a great shooter by any means.
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Larue, Daniels Defense, Windham and Bravo Company all make great off the shelf ARís and I think they are more accurate.


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Not the highest dollar rifle they sell, but right out of the box the fit and finish was tops. simple set up with some troy sights and a fairly basic sig red dot... it's just an easy to handle and shoot rifle. Prolly my favorite shooter lately.
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Gear Queers ruined the 2A.

GEAR QUEERS RUNIED THE 2A

You gun faggots made the 2A a Consumerist hobby, just like drones, 4x4s, and gaming PCs. Always something new to buy. Gotta get that new Tac vest to fit over your ever-swelling fat guts handing out of your shirts.

GUN FAGGOTS RUINED GUNS FOR EVERYONE.

Every single one of you gun faggots needs to be taken out in the public square and whipped across your bare, flabby white asscheeks you fucking faggots should die first when the Day of the Rope arrives.
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I don't want to burst your bubble but s shitload of ARs were sold from 94-2004.
The colt AR-15 was specifically banned....

The mini-14 was not. That's why tons of 50-60 year old guys have them now, like my dad.
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The reality is that Colt can't compete in the current oversaturated AR market. Everyone and their dog is making an AR these days. The rumor going around is that some of their recent ARs are coming out with non colt made barrels and bcgs.

Colt has had union issues and many other production issues in the past. Honestly there is no point staying in the civilian market if they are going to loose money or revert to a crappy product. There are plenty of other makers who only sell to the civilian market that I would rather buy.

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How was it back then?

Would they be able to pass a ban like the 1994 one in the post-Heller world?
Tons of republicans voted for the ban. Hell, the republican house minority leader voted for it.

You think the fuckers in congress care about Heller? They'll just say that a ban doesn't violate the 2nd, and 50% of the country will believe them. Unless the Supreme Court says 'AR15s are covered by the 2nd', their strategy doesn't change. That's why they are pushing the ridiculous narrative that the semi-auto Ar15 is a military rifle.
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I'm not seeing this. Yes, there are some gun freaks who flaunt their right to bear arms to the point that some people feel uncomfortable but I don't think this rises to level of "jumping the shark"?
Anyone who uses the term "Fudd" has jumped the shark. There are several here. Anyone who thinks that any particular activity is so awesome that anyone who doesn't participate should be ostracized, should be dragged out into the street and shot. Or at least ostracized.
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The colt AR-15 was specifically banned....

The mini-14 was not. That's why tons of 50-60 year old guys have them now, like my dad.
That's interesting.

Why do I own a Colt AR-15 made in about 1996, that I bought around the turn of the century?

The 1994 AWB has almost nothing to do with why ARs are prolific right now
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You faggots took a sacred human right, something deserving of delicacy and respect, and turned it into a crass, shitty, cringelord Consumerist pursuit.

Why couldn't you fags stick with CB radios and Magic the Gathering?

The liberal gun grabbers need to be imprisoned. No question they are Human Rights violaters.

But Gun Fags need to be executed. Every single one of you fags putting carbon fiber stocks on your $1000 tactical rifel then claiming "Oh i-i-it's not an Assault Weapon!" needs to have your hands broken with a hammer. In public. While screaming "It's not assault weapon! IT'S NOT AN ASSAULT WEAPON!"

The fact that conservatives support you liars has been one of the main weaknesses of the entire conservative movement.
You should go out and buy yourself a Colt AR15 before they become hard to find... oh wait...

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