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Old 10-29-2019, 06:52 PM   #701 (permalink)
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The Democrats have too much to lose, and they know it.

The colonel testifying to today: he's giving his OPINION!!!


My odds are: 10% chance they'll impeach.


Everything they're doing is purely to make it look like they're going to impeach, including today's vote.

They're trying to shape public opinion. IT'S ALL A SCAM.
Not sure who’s opinion they’re trying to shape as I think common sense people are fed up with their BS ever since 2016. It’s enough already, do the job they’re supposed to be there for and work for the public that voted them in office. But then again, this is probably what the foaming starts the mouth democrackhead voters what done. Such a waste of time and money.

The main thing they’re really going to accomplish is divide our nation even that much further. Those fucking clowns can’t even figure out their own stance on things. First they bitch and whine that trump was a war monger. Then bitch and whine when he pulls out of Sierra. Then they bitch and whine when he sends the delta team in and kill head cheese ISIS goat fawker. It’s enough to make your head spin.
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Usually (or maybe always) there is a crime and then an investigation to determine who did it. This seems to be an investigation looking for a crime. Has anyone said, specifically, what high crime or misdemeanor Trump has committed that requires investigation and possible impeachment ?
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Usually (or maybe always) there is a crime and then an investigation to determine who did it. This seems to be an investigation looking for a crime. Has anyone said, specifically, what high crime or misdemeanor Trump has committed that requires investigation and possible impeachment ?
Uhmm isnt it obvious. Orange man bad. That and Trump wanted to investigate corruption by the only dem that is not bat shit crazy and had a chance of running against him.

I mean how could it be corrupt that a drug addict who knows nothing about the gas industry or Ukraine get a job pulling in more a month than most people make a year. Though he does have the correct last name. I mean god take off your blinders and look at how bad Trump is.

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Usually (or maybe always) there is a crime and then an investigation to determine who did it. This seems to be an investigation looking for a crime. Has anyone said, specifically, what high crime or misdemeanor Trump has committed that requires investigation and possible impeachment ?
Technically they just need to vote and get it over with. There doesn't need to be proof of any crime, that's just a tradition from the days of old.
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Usually (or maybe always) there is a crime and then an investigation to determine who did it. This seems to be an investigation looking for a crime. Has anyone said, specifically, what high crime or misdemeanor Trump has committed that requires investigation and possible impeachment ?
The potential crime is asking a foreign gov't for something that benefits Trump personally while he is in high office..Like asking to investigate a potential political rival...No one here knows what really goes on, much of what the media says is speculation...The people who actually heard the conversation first hand is the only potentially reliable information..
Is it a a crime worth Impeachment?

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They're trying to shape public opinion. IT'S ALL A SCAM.
I have been saying this for months. The House Dems are feeding the MSM biased soundbites every day, trying to drive public opinion. Btw, I don't believe any of the opinion polls showing a majority of Americans supporting impeachment and removal. I suspect the polls purposefully over-sample Trump hating areas.

They certainly don't represent people from Trump states.

I believe the Dems and MSM are grasping at straws and know they can't win with a socialist like Liz Warren.
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The potential crime is asking a foreign gov't for something that benefits Trump personally while he is in high office..Like asking to investigate a potential political rival...No one here knows what really goes on, much of what the media says is speculation...The people who actually heard the conversation first hand is the only potentially reliable information..
Is it a a crime worth Impeachment?
If he asked about the criminal Biden's about their shady dealings over there while threatening to withhold this nations citizens tax money to help keep the Russians out, probably illegal. just asking about their criminal activity I doubt is anything other then pissing off the Democrackheads.
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I have been saying this for months. The House Dems are feeding the MSM biased soundbites every day, trying to drive public opinion. Btw, I don't believe any of the opinion polls showing a majority of Americans supporting impeachment and removal. I suspect the polls purposefully over-sample Trump hating areas.

They certainly don't represent people from Trump states.

I believe the Dems and MSM are grasping at straws and know they can't win with a socialist like Liz Warren.
I'm not sure if I believe them or not. I was at a Halloween party with a bunch of my friends who are predominantly engineers. A relatively conservative group of analytical people. I was surprised by how many were against him in a clearly biased manner. None of them were touting the Democrats or Socialists. But there was a lot of Joking going on at his expense. I was shocked by how many have taken the Russia Collusion story, hook-line-sinker.

The MSM is spewing propaganda and as much as we all want to act like it's so easy to see through. Unless you seek out alternative narratives, it can be convincing.

One issue I see is the number of people who subscribe to MSNBC thinking they're getting unbiased information because it's a more financial aimed outlet.

I guess we will see what happens when it happens.

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If he asked about the criminal Biden's about their shady dealings over there while threatening to withhold this nations citizens tax money to help keep the Russians out, probably illegal. just asking about their criminal activity I doubt is anything other then pissing off the Democrackheads.
This is about Trump not Biden...If Biden is suspected of crimes, then he should be investigated...Of course Biden is not in public office so he can't be impeached...
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This impeachment show is a joke. It's a joke for a reason too. It's all made up to keep the lid on the truth and they know full well they can't hold the lid forever.

All they're trying to do is cause as much damage as they can do before Barr and that other guy finish their investigations. That's when the shit will really hit the fan and the Democrats know it.

A Ukrainian court has already said there was shady shit going on in '16 with the Dems. That's not Fox News, that's the Ukrainians themselves.


If you get right down to it, the bottom line is this whole circus is cover for Obama.
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I'm not sure if I believe them or not. I was at a Halloween party with a bunch of my friends who are predominantly engineers. A relatively conservative group of analytical people. I was surprised by how many were against him in a clearly biased manner. None of them were touting the Democrats or Socialists. But there was a lot of Joking going on at his expense. I was shocked by how many have taken the Russia Collusion story, hook-line-sinker.

The MSM is spewing propaganda and as much as we all want to act like it's so easy to see through. Unless you seek out alternative narratives, it can be convincing.

One issue I see is the number of people who subscribe to MSNBC thinking they're getting unbiased information because it's a more financial aimed outlet.

I guess we will see what happens when it happens.
That would be CNBC. MSNBC is a mainstream outlet like CNN or Fox.
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This is about Trump not Biden...If Biden is suspected of crimes, then he should be investigated...Of course Biden is not in public office so he can't be impeached...
Your mad someone is trying to do what you said should be done? But not mad democrats are trying prevent him from pursuing it? Time to make up your mind.
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The potential crime is asking a foreign gov't for something that benefits Trump personally while he is in high office..Like asking to investigate a potential political rival...No one here knows what really goes on, much of what the media says is speculation...The people who actually heard the conversation first hand is the only potentially reliable information..
Is it a a crime worth Impeachment?
benefits Trump? Exposing corruption beniftis Trump? Yes it does. It benefits me also. In fact, I would say it benefits everybody in the world. Almost everything Trump does that benefits us, benifit s him also. I guess Trump has done things with foreign governments to help our economy. Of course, that benifit his campaign, must be illegal.
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benefits Trump? Exposing corruption beniftis Trump? Yes it does. It benefits me also. In fact, I would say it benefits everybody in the world. Almost everything Trump does that benefits us, benifit s him also. I guess Trump has done things with foreign governments to help our economy. Of course, that benifit his campaign, must be illegal.
Unrelated note, how did you manage to spell benefits 2 different ways multiple times, almost directly next to each other?
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I'm not sure if I believe them or not. I was at a Halloween party with a bunch of my friends who are predominantly engineers. A relatively conservative group of analytical people. I was surprised by how many were against him in a clearly biased manner. None of them were touting the Democrats or Socialists. But there was a lot of Joking going on at his expense.
I support him, and I'm very thankful to have him as our President instead of Hillary.

I also realize that he is a complete asshole narcissist, and probably very difficult to work for. I make fun of him all of the time for the stupid shit that he says.

The flip side of all of his shit talking is that we all know exactly how he feels about things. He puts it out there on Twitter for everyone to see and makes no apologies. To me, that is very refreshing.

He's certainly not perfect, but he came along at the right time as far as I'm concerned.
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Unrelated note, how did you manage to spell benefits 2 different ways multiple times, almost directly next to each other?
He fired spellcheck years ago.
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In all the pages of this thread that I refuse to read, has anyone discussed the idea that this is so close to the election that people may look at the dems a lot cross eyed for trying to make the ballot selection for them. I mean at this point, if the people want him gone, we can vote that way without this shitshow.
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If he asked about the criminal Biden's about their shady dealings over there while threatening to withhold this nations citizens tax money to help keep the Russians out, probably illegal. just asking about their criminal activity I doubt is anything other then pissing off the Democrackheads.
That's the crux of the matter right there. Did or did not Trump threaten to withhold aid money unless that country investigated Biden's son. Depending on who you ask, some say he did, others say he didn't.
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I have been saying this for months. The House Dems are feeding the MSM biased soundbites every day, trying to drive public opinion. Btw, I don't believe any of the opinion polls showing a majority of Americans supporting impeachment and removal. I suspect the polls purposefully over-sample Trump hating areas.

They certainly don't represent people from Trump states.

I believe the Dems and MSM are grasping at straws and know they can't win with a socialist like Liz Warren.
Guarantee when the time is right they will start to attack consumer confidence with propaganda. They will try to crash the economy under President Trump.
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That's the crux of the matter right there. Did or did not Trump threaten to withhold aid money unless that country investigated Biden's son. Depending on who you ask, some say he did, others say he didn't.
Threaten to withhold MY money from Ukraine, you mean? I wish he did! Here's what he should have said:

"Hey you corrupt fuckers, you get to the bottom of this Biden thing quickly and we'll consider continuing to pay for your fucking missiles".
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GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz files ethics complaint against Schiff, cites 'unprofessional and divisive' conduct

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Unrelated note, how did you manage to spell benefits 2 different ways multiple times, almost directly next to each other?
My iPad spell checks all the time. Sometimes good, sometimes not so good. If I was on an English forum, I would proofread it.

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That's the crux of the matter right there. Did or did not Trump threaten to withhold aid money unless that country investigated Biden's son. Depending on who you ask, some say he did, others say he didn't.
Presidents (and Vice Presidents) withhold aid money all the time for a desired result. The crux of the matter is, was the desired result illegal?
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In all the pages of this thread that I refuse to read, has anyone discussed the idea that this is so close to the election that people may look at the dems a lot cross eyed for trying to make the ballot selection for them. I mean at this point, if the people want him gone, we can vote that way without this shitshow.


N&C know that and thats why they seemed to want to postpone this till after the election. Even of it goes to an impeachment trial. He will be done with this term before it is over. AOC and the Gang are new and not that politically savvy. They shot their load to soon and will now see some fallout from it. What that fallout will be remains to be seen.

I believe N&C wanted the impeachment headlines to be his next terms “Russia Russia Russia!” It did a good job of greatly slowing his progress this term. If he wins re-election them they will have to invent a new boogie man.


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Your mad someone is trying to do what you said should be done? But not mad democrats are trying prevent him from pursuing it? Time to make up your mind.

No shit!

And he ain't the only one around here......
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