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Old 10-30-2019, 05:01 PM   #726 (permalink)
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This is about Trump not Biden...If Biden is suspected of crimes, then he should be investigated...Of course Biden is not in public office so he can't be impeached...
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Old 10-30-2019, 05:50 PM   #728 (permalink)
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That's the crux of the matter right there. Did or did not Trump threaten to withhold aid money unless that country investigated Biden's son. Depending on who you ask, some say he did, others say he didn't.
Have you not seen the videos of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire the special prosecutor that was investigating the company Bidens son was getting paid large sums of money to be on their board? And this was when Creepy Joe was VP. He literally did what you think Trump did and it's on record, but somehow Trump saying they shouldn't have fired the special Prosecutor is worse than what Biden did? Its a huge crock of shit.
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Have you not seen the videos of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire the special prosecutor that was investigating the company Bidens son was getting paid large sums of money to be on their board? And this was when Creepy Joe was VP. He literally did what you think Trump did and it's on record, but somehow Trump saying they shouldn't have fired the special Prosecutor is worse than what Biden did? Its a huge crock of shit.
This was posted (and I assumed aired around the same time) 3 months before the infamous phone call to Ukraine.

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N&C know that and thats why they seemed to want to postpone this till after the election. Even of it goes to an impeachment trial. He will be done with this term before it is over. AOC and the Gang are new and not that politically savvy. They shot their load to soon and will now see some fallout from it. What that fallout will be remains to be seen.

I believe N&C wanted the impeachment headlines to be his next terms “Russia Russia Russia!” It did a good job of greatly slowing his progress this term. If he wins re-election them they will have to invent a new boogie man.


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I think the fallout will be that the dem pres candidate will never be able to get any press during this fiasco. He's not going to be found guilty in the senate and any vulnerable dems in the senate may lose just to make sure. Never mind some of the house dems in places like OK and NC??

I hate to see one party get too much power, but the dems are really fucking this up.
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Have you (sandiegocj) videos of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire the special prosecutor that was investigating the company Bidens son was getting paid large sums of money to be on their board? And this was when Creepy Joe was VP. He literally did what you think Trump did and it's on record, but somehow Trump saying they shouldn't have fired the special Prosecutor is worse than what Biden did? Its a huge crock of shit.
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Have you not seen the videos of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire the special prosecutor that was investigating the company Bidens son was getting paid large sums of money to be on their board? And this was when Creepy Joe was VP. He literally did what you think Trump did and it's on record, but somehow Trump saying they shouldn't have fired the special Prosecutor is worse than what Biden did? Its a huge crock of shit.
On top of that, Ukraine DID fire the prosecutor then as well. How much fucking proof does anyone need the Bidens are criminals?
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Old 10-30-2019, 07:26 PM   #735 (permalink)
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I hope the Rs grow a spine and raise hell all the way through the democrackheads clown shit show.

Dems push impeachment rules over repeated GOP objections, as exasperation boils over

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This is about Trump not Biden...If Biden is suspected of crimes, then he should be investigated...Of course Biden is not in public office so he can't be impeached...


This is about Trump asking for information about possible and probable crimes committed by VP Biden and the administration he was part of. Because of this the Dems and Progressives are doing everything they can to invalidate that conversation. Because there is a high probability that many on both sides if the aisle are involved to some degree. But by screaming at the top of their lung about wrong doing when none may exist it takes the heat off of them.

The fact that the dossier is connected to the former Secretary of State, former VP, and many big democrat lobbying groups should be enough to warrant an official investigation.


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This is about Trump asking for information about possible and probable crimes committed by VP Biden and the administration he was part of. Because of this the Dems and Progressives are doing everything they can to invalidate that conversation. Because there is a high probability that many on both sides if the aisle are involved to some degree. But by screaming at the top of their lung about wrong doing when none may exist it takes the heat off of them.

The fact that the dossier is connected to the former Secretary of State, former VP, and many big democrat lobbying groups should be enough to warrant an official investigation.


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all this ...dont forget brennan


if he did say he was going to withhold money...it was to have them look into corruption....

but biden was going to withhold money and had there AG fired for looking into corruption. ..

but trump is the bad guy...wholly shit...
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Old 10-31-2019, 04:32 AM   #738 (permalink)
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Your contributions to this thread have been equally invaluable.
Thank you very much for your observations, I feel honored. .And to all the funny screen names on a 4x4 site discussing politics by repeating what they hear on the news and trying to pass it off as original thinking, your credibility is nill...
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Have you not seen the videos of Biden bragging about threatening to withhold aid from Ukraine if they didn't fire the special prosecutor that was investigating the company Bidens son was getting paid large sums of money to be on their board? And this was when Creepy Joe was VP. He literally did what you think Trump did and it's on record, but somehow Trump saying they shouldn't have fired the special Prosecutor is worse than what Biden did? Its a huge crock of shit.
First off, what Biden did, the bragging, is irrelevant to this impeachment fiasco.
Second, I never said "I think Trump threatened to withhold aid". Get that straight and stop lying about my stance.
Neither you nor I know exactly what was said during that phone call. I'm reserving judgement until I hear ALL the facts.
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Neither you nor I know exactly what was said during that phone call. I'm reserving judgement until I hear ALL the facts.
uh... the transcript...
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uh... the transcript...
It was redacted and not 100% of it was there. Try and keep up.
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It was redacted and not 100% of it was there. Try and keep up.
Sure it was. Anything to prolong the bullshit, that's what you really meant to say.
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Sure it was. Anything to prolong the bullshit, that's what you really meant to say.
You really are a moron. Typical PBB GCC member who has his mind made up way before all the facts are in.
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You really are a moron. Typical PBB GCC member who has his mind made up way before all the facts are in.
Irony or hypocrisy… can't decide which is thicker in this post.
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You really are a moron. Typical PBB GCC member who has his mind made up way before all the facts are in.
and yet you're still here. even though you hate everyone else here. and you tell everyone else here they'e dumb, and you're not.

Why you still come into threads like these, and PBB GCC in general, is just beyond fathomable.
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First off, what Biden did, the bragging, is irrelevant to this impeachment fiasco.

Second, I never said "I think Trump threatened to withhold aid". Get that straight and stop lying about my stance.

Neither you nor I know exactly what was said during that phone call. I'm reserving judgement until I hear ALL the facts.


Please explain to the class how a sitting VP using his position to threaten to withhold aid in order to help his son not get investigated for potential felony level crimes in the private sector of a different country, is not what this is about. Trump asked for this! Now what ever portions of the call are redacted we dont know about. But from the information the class has this IS what the impeachment is about.


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First off, what Biden did, the bragging, is irrelevant to this impeachment fiasco .
What Biden did is extortion. If he did it in the interest of our national security, I have no problem with it. I just can't come up with a plausible scenario for it benefiting our national security. If he did it for corruption (which seems obvious), than it is in our national security interest to investigate/prosecute.

What Trump did (even if he did threaten to withhold aid), is in our national security interest. The fact that it might also benefit his campaign is irrelevant.
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What Biden did is extortion. If he did it in the interest of our national security, I have no problem with it. I just can't come up with a plausible scenario for it benefiting our national security. If he did it for corruption (which seems obvious), than it is in our national security interest to investigate/prosecute.

What Trump did (even if he did threaten to withhold aid), is in our national security interest. The fact that it might also benefit his campaign is irrelevant.
No, it is absolutely relevant. What Biden did was corrupt and like you said is extortion, what Trump did was extortion as well. Do you really believe that Trump asking for an investigation was wholly motivated by national interests and not an opportunity for dirt to be dug on his main (at the time) political rival for re-election? Don't be daft.

This is politics 101 and it's shit. Classic quid quo pro.
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