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Old 10-18-2019, 04:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hillary's email report from State Dept

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep...lations-faults


Sounds like plenty of wrongdoing to me.

But maybe they didn't mean to.....

Also who cares if the people quit or retired. If crimes were committed, charge them.

Dems keep talking about charging Trump for things when he gets out of office, why not corrupt Dems?
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...Dems keep talking about charging Trump for things when he gets out of office, why not corrupt Dems?
When you get rich enough to print all the money out of the thin air and buy the media enough to control the narrative, then you'll get him.

Until then, it's all just about covering up for the corrupt.
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Sounds like plenty of wrongdoing to me.

But maybe they didn't mean to.....

Also who cares if the people quit or retired. If crimes were committed, charge them.

Dems keep talking about charging Trump for things when he gets out of office, why not corrupt Dems?
I don’t get why investigate the old nasty cunt if they’re never going to follow through and charge her, then ship her skanky old ass off to jail?!?
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I have several questions to this point.

How deep does this all really go?

If heads start to roll, where does the domino effect end?

What is the ramification on the people given the fallout this has the potential to creat?

Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?

Is there a better option, given the seemingly endless number of guilty participants?

I don't have answers, but these questions have lingering concerns in my mind.
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I don’t get why investigate the old nasty cunt if they’re never going to follow through and charge her, then ship her skanky old ass off to jail?!?


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Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?
Yes. We need to start hanging crooked politicians. Even if that means killing them all and starting over again.
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Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?
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I have several questions to this point.

How deep does this all really go?

If heads start to roll, where does the domino effect end?

What is the ramification on the people given the fallout this has the potential to creat?

Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?

Is there a better option, given the seemingly endless number of guilty participants?

I don't have answers, but these questions have lingering concerns in my mind.
The real question is, are some people above the law or is everyone equal? The answer is as simple as that. The results might not be simple, but the answer is. Fuck them all. If they are corrupt then shoot them between the fucking eyes at the Washington monument. In fact, you can swear in the next bunch right next to their rotting courps. That way the new ones can feel the gravity of the situation
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I have several questions to this point.

How deep does this all really go?

If heads start to roll, where does the domino effect end?

What is the ramification on the people given the fallout this has the potential to creat?

Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?


Is there a better option, given the seemingly endless number of guilty participants?

I don't have answers, but these questions have lingering concerns in my mind.
I would argue that if the bold portion is an actual possibility, then the nation is already destabilized.
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The real question is, are some people above the law or is everyone equal? The answer is as simple as that. The results might not be simple, but the answer is. Fuck them all. If they are corrupt then shoot them between the fucking eyes at the Washington monument. In fact, you can swear in the next bunch right next to their rotting courps. That way the new ones can feel the gravity of the situation
I love those last two sentences
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I have several questions to this point.

How deep does this all really go?

If heads start to roll, where does the domino effect end?

What is the ramification on the people given the fallout this has the potential to creat?

Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?

Is there a better option, given the seemingly endless number of guilty participants?

I don't have answers, but these questions have lingering concerns in my mind.

Somehow, it will all come back to Trump
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Is it worthwhile to seek justice at the expense of destabilizing the entire nation?
IMO that's greatly overstated.
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IMO that's greatly overstated.
If we took the advice of many and threw them all out with force then it would. But, that won't happen. People will keep doing what they have been doing for decades.
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IMO that's greatly overstated.
If we took the advice of many and threw them all out with force then it would. But, that won't happen. People will keep doing what they have been doing for decades.
And the crazy thing is some people seam to like it that way...."Why can't Trump just act presidential?" You know lie like the rest so I can feel comfortable.
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I would argue that if the bold portion is an actual possibility, then the nation is already destabilized.
Was going to post the same.

Turn the country upside down and shake all the shit out of it. Normal, productive people will be just fine during the transition back to Of the people, for the people.
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Decades? Try "all history".
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Yes. We need to start hanging crooked politicians. Even if that means killing them all and starting over again.
Another option is to replace them through a local up approach. Which would require citizens take a more active roll in their local governments and through time, purge the system through ethical participation. A bold move that is widely seen as impossible by people who sit on the sidelines bitching instead of acting.

I'm guilty too. But we're just having a discussion so it's worth airing.

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The real question is, are some people above the law or is everyone equal? The answer is as simple as that. The results might not be simple, but the answer is. Fuck them all. If they are corrupt then shoot them between the fucking eyes at the Washington monument. In fact, you can swear in the next bunch right next to their rotting courps. That way the new ones can feel the gravity of the situation
Yes. For sure there is a hierarchy. In some cases there is even evidence of dynasties. Entire families employee the local governments of cities like San Francisco. The Clinton's and the Bush's are another great example of these Dynasty factions who have obvious clout within the judicial system

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I would argue that if the bold portion is an actual possibility, then the nation is already destabilized.
If we use the fall of the Soviet Union as any indication you may very well be right. I guess it comes down to whether we can instill the virtues of our country at a local level and rebuild from the ground up rather than tearing it down from the top.

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One thing I'm happy to see is the realization of the average American to the reality that we are not above corruption in this country. There are many nations around the world that operate under the presumption that their leaders are corrupt and the business dealings they participate in are for their own benefit and not for the benefit of their countrymen. Many citizens have taken up this understanding. It offers them a rulebook to navigate by. They may be powerless to remove the injustices but they are left with a clearer understanding of the game. With the rules clearly laid out they can better navigate their own lives and live a more prosperous future without naive misunderstandings.
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pretty much ever big city is terrible corrupt. i don't thank anyone that has been on the dallas city council didn't end up in jail afterwards. pretty good record. but none of this will change until the rule of law is applied equally across the spectrum.
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pretty much ever big city is terribly corrupt.

None of this will change until the rule of law is applied equally across the spectrum.
I agree. What I'm trying to fish out is which approach would be more stabilizing to us, the little people.

Do we flush out the local corruptions that touch us more directly?

Or

Do we flush out the national corruption that touches us indirectly but has larger scales of burdening ramifications due to competition among foreign nations.

I have only recently started thinking about this from the angle I'm proposing. So I'm not setting this up as a opinion I hold closely. But I have adopted the notion that change starts with ourselves and with that belief it only seems logical that we little people start by taking on the small issues and work out from there. My fear in advocating we start from the top is the real possibility of a power vacuum. That could be more detrimental than the oligarchs who hold the power already.

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