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Old 10-19-2019, 11:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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This could be the beginning of civil war...

federal agents are now using redflag to forcibly confiscate in open denial of due process, and the bill of rights.

The rubicon has been crossed, not the Rubicon trail!!!

https://www.king5.com/mobile/article...6-78f877977340
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Nothing will come of that, no civil war is ever going to happen in this day of advanced technology. And, even if it started, whoever is involved would be labeled terrorists, or right wing extremists and taken down immediately along with media black out. It is simple, we are long passed the point of return.
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Wasn't there a movie about this kinda thing? Oh yeah. Minority Report. Charging people for chrimes they haven't yet committed.
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Hardly the start of a civil war since they demonized him right off the bat.
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Funny is, I'm sure he would have no clue how to get firearms other than at a gun shop. I'm positive that stopped him.
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federal agents are now using redflag to forcibly confiscate in open denial of due process, and the bill of rights.

The rubicon has been crossed, not the Rubicon trail!!!

https://www.king5.com/mobile/article...6-78f877977340
You are incased in a solid block of aluminum. You're way past the tinfoil stage if you seriously think this will start a civil war.
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Wasn't there a movie about this kinda thing? Oh yeah. Minority Report. Charging people for chrimes they haven't yet committed.
Every charge for any sort of contraband has fit that bill since the beginning of time. Nothing new.
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You are incased in a solid block of aluminum. You're way past the tinfoil stage if you seriously think this will start a civil war.
He's lived through a pretty stressful and tragic situation recently. It is no wonder he's thinking in extremes.
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People get their civil rights violated every day and the police sieze property without due process and no one gives a shit..But this is posted here because it's about guns. If this guy is really a Neo Nazi who believes in their philosophy, he's a piece of shit...but still deserves due process....
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Civil War ? are you high ?
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Sorry, not buying into your fantasies. ADChevy4x4 hit it on the head.
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People get their civil rights violated every day and the police sieze property without due process and no one gives a shit..But this is posted here because it's about guns. If this guy is really a Neo Nazi who believes in their philosophy, he's a piece of shit...but still deserves due process....
I did read in the article that a judge did issue the order. Not just someone bitching and going off and seizing the weapons. He does have a date in court coming up to contest this.

BTW, his group follows the philosophy of Hitler and Charles Manson. They want to start a race war.
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People get their civil rights violated every day and the police sieze property without due process and no one gives a shit..But this is posted here because it's about guns. If this guy is really a Neo Nazi who believes in their philosophy, he's a piece of shit...but still deserves due process....
i agree, which is what is interesting about it. What do you do with extreme whackjobs

they exist on all ends of the spectrum, hell many are even in elected positions
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I did read in the article that a judge did issue the order. Not just someone bitching and going off and seizing the weapons. He does have a date in court coming up to contest this.

BTW, his group follows the philosophy of Hitler and Charles Manson. They want to start a race war.
Perhaps, but did they break any laws? Did they act out their racism on people of color or just jerk off on themselves?
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i agree, which is what is interesting about it. What do you do with extreme whackjobs

they exist on all ends of the spectrum, hell many are even in elected positions
Extreme wack jobs need to be checked out..If the person has commited no crimes and there's no documented proof of immediate danger because he made threats, then let him be I suppose..
Most here support the right to have as many guns of any type with zero regulation..So what do you do?
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People get their civil rights violated every day and the police sieze property without due process and no one gives a shit..But this is posted here because it's about guns. If this guy is really a Neo Nazi who believes in their philosophy, he's a piece of shit...but still deserves due process....
Just like in this case, it is never ok to violate someoneís civil rights. Whataboutism isnít a legit rebuttal, hippie.
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Just like in this case, it is never ok to violate someoneís civil rights. Whataboutism isnít a legit rebuttal, hippie.
I was never a hippie, I was an anarchist...
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I did read in the article that a judge did issue the order. Not just someone bitching and going off and seizing the weapons...

Yes thats kinda how red flag laws work.
Thank you captain obvious. Itís not like John Q Neighbor can call the cops and the cops just show up and take you shit based on a complaint without a judge getting involved.




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Ehhh. I dunno.

Back around 2012 or 13 we were wheeling in Clayton Oklahoma. I stopped into the local tire joint and proceeded to get into an altercation with the owner. I guess his life was upside down with a divorce and bankruptcy looming. Myself and a friend ended up in a little fight with the guy in his parking lot which got the cops involved. They took that dudes guns after going inside with him to talk. Not positive what all was said, but the judge wasn't involved, just the Sheriff.
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Ehhh. I dunno.



Back around 2012 or 13 we were wheeling in Clayton Oklahoma. I stopped into the local tire joint and proceeded to get into an altercation with the owner. I guess his life was upside down with a divorce and bankruptcy looming. Myself and a friend ended up in a little fight with the guy in his parking lot which got the cops involved. They took that dudes guns after going inside with him to talk. Not positive what all was said, but the judge wasn't involved, just the Sheriff.


The red flag law, what they used in this situation that is being discussed, require a judges warrant to violate due process of law.
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I'm interested if this guy or his group ever made any threats to anyone. They are clearly racist, but claim they are only arming themselves to defend themselves in the race war, not start it.

The way the left throws around charges of racism these days, most of us here are as bad as this dude in their eyes. MAGA hat? Racist. Support ICE? Racist. Doubt man made global warming? Racist.

Although this guy is clearly a racist, I don't like the fact that his racism is the deciding factor here.
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I'm interested if this guy or his group ever made any threats to anyone. They are clearly racist, but claim they are only arming themselves to defend themselves in the race war, not start it.

The way the left throws around charges of racism these days, most of us here are as bad as this dude in their eyes. MAGA hat? Racist. Support ICE? Racist. Doubt man made global warming? Racist.

Although this guy is clearly a racist, I don't like the fact that his racism is the deciding factor here.

It is well established that leftism prays on weak minds with radicalism.

Racism is a no different from identity politics. You're dehumanizing a group of people to achieve a certain degree of power. With racism, the idea is superiority of one faction over another based out of origin. This system worked well before our cities became desegregated cosmopolitan areas. Now the game has shifted. The new faction seeking power has set its sights on the group unwilling to blindly follow, by demonizing their character using a known identity that is wildly viewed as unlikable. The strategy is no different than the image they use to against their enemies. If the nazi's used the identity of the Jews to steal their wealth and restructure the country. The left hopes to use racism to steal the capitalists wealth to similarly restructure the country. An odd note, is the very interesting strategy of calling their enemies what they are to remove the ability for their enemies to label them as exactly that.

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