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Old 10-22-2019, 12:09 PM   #51 (permalink)
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My 2011 was also a Hertz rental ( i worked for Hertz at the time,so I got a good discount). I paid $11,000 for it with 24k miles on it drove it for 2 years, put 30k miles on it, then sold it to Carmax for $10,000. It was a solid investment in a commuter.
Hell yeah. That's a solid move. My mother in law bought her car from Hertz 10 years ago. It's been trouble free.
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Nothing to add other than kia does seem to stand behind their vehicles. Uncle bought a 13 sorrento new and a few months back the engine crapped out. He had around 135k miles so well outside warranty. Kia put in a new engine for free and warrantied it for life. If kia ever came out with a truck in the US that wasnt super homo gay I would consider it.
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weird as I don't know of anyone with good luck on Kia's. My neighbor had one and nothing but issues from the dealer and refusal to fix anything/everything. He ended up having to replace the engine. I do not they are very popular with a certain segment of the local population as they are cheaper and they seem to trade them out ever few years for a new version.

This thread is surprising.
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Nothing to add other than kia does seem to stand behind their vehicles. Uncle bought a 13 sorrento new and a few months back the engine crapped out. He had around 135k miles so well outside warranty. Kia put in a new engine for free and warrantied it for life. If kia ever came out with a truck in the US that wasnt super homo gay I would consider it.
Go back in time, and Kia was a HUGE producer of Bus chassis rigs, military rigs (with Jeep like rigs) and commercial/military trucks. edit; they're still around if you google Kia Military or Kia Bus

For a few years now they've prototype/design-test built a truck or two, but didn't see the market. The Borrego, was a full sized (Tahoe) SUV with V8 and flopped horribly (one year run only). Magazines thought it was a great rig, but dealers had issues selling it. That added failure surely slowed down thoughts of building a actual Titan rival truck.

Regarding the out of warranty engine repairs, both Kia and Hyundai had issues with the new generation direct injection engine castings, and have been generous with warranty replacements. The pre-DI engines (conventionally fuel injected) had no issues and don't get the warranty love. Seems to be in the 2011 to 2013 time frame.
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weird as I don't know of anyone with good luck on Kia's. My neighbor had one and nothing but issues from the dealer and refusal to fix anything/everything. He ended up having to replace the engine. I do not they are very popular with a certain segment of the local population as they are cheaper and they seem to trade them out ever few years for a new version.

This thread is surprising.
Kia has been great cars for over a decade, from reliability standards. The early ones (when the 10/100k warranty first started) had issues as the owner-base was basically buying a used car, and treating it as a used car. Problem was, the cheap car mentality refused to do regular oil changes, and, especially 'forgot' to replace timing belts. And those were interference engines. So 'Boom'. In early 2010s / late 2000s Kia started switching back to timing chains, so no more boom. Around that same time, Kia introduced better features, more dynamic style, and the owner bases started changing to a more upscale buyer (more like Nissan / VW / GM) whom actually did oil changes and such.
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When I lived in Korea Kia was the second largest car and truck manufacturer, independent of Hyundai.

I went back in 2009 and they're still all over the place.

They make some really large trucks... but they're all complete utility.
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We don't have Kia, but a Hyundai dealer. Took a quick look and 40k for a
Hyundai crosssover

20k I could see the value, but at 40k I'm buying a Toyota or Subaru for less money.
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We don't have Kia, but a Hyundai dealer. Took a quick look and 40k for a
Hyundai crosssover

20k I could see the value, but at 40k I'm buying a Toyota or Subaru for less money.
I'd like to see you find a new crossover anything for $20k
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I'd like to see you find a new crossover anything for $20k
He's drunk. You can barely find a nice USED anything sub 75k miles for that kind of money unless it's geo metro sized. :sceep:
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He's drunk. You can barely find a nice USED anything sub 75k miles for that kind of money unless it's geo metro sized. :sceep:
The base Kia Sedona this thread was about is in the very low 20's new.

My 2018 cheap as tradesman model 2500 was $45k, I had to relax my butt cheeks a bunch to pull that much out for new diesel pickup $40k for Hyundai car That seems like BMW money to me, but I haven't looked at car prices in a long time.
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The base Kia Sedona this thread was about is in the very low 20's new.

My 2018 cheap as tradesman model 2500 was $45k, I had to relax my butt cheeks a bunch to pull that much out for new diesel pickup $40k for Hyundai car That seems like BMW money to me, but I haven't looked at car prices in a long time.
the 3 series starts at 45.

and that's not one you actually want.

the difference is that a 45K kia/hyundai has every creature comfort, navigation, all the shit.

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I drove a x1 as a loaner.
it was an abomination. was not impressed.
the x3 at least had the motor going in the right direction, but still did not impress.
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We don't have Kia, but a Hyundai dealer. Took a quick look and 40k for a
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20k I could see the value, but at 40k I'm buying a Toyota or Subaru for less money.
and current toyota and subarus are no better, maybe worse
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He's drunk. You can barely find a nice USED anything sub 75k miles for that kind of money unless it's geo metro sized. :sceep:
5+ y/o, ~50k rav4/crv are 10k-12k all day. Run to 100k and sell for 7-8k. A Korean whatever would be less due to stigma. Hell, you can buy a dan near near escape for 12k.

Youll have minimal maintenance with less initial cost, and better return on resale. So overall less per mile.

But it's not a new car. All different strokes.
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The base Kia Sedona this thread was about is in the very low 20's new.
Not anywhere around me.

A base model L is right at $30k.

I'll be looking for something for the wife in the next year or two to replace her '96 XJ, so threads like this I find interesting.

Coming from someone who's sick of working on sh*t, and knows how much newer stuff costs to fix...

Kia is very temping if for nothing else the warranty...
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The base Kia Sedona this thread was about is in the very low 20's new.
Why confused?

https://www.quirkkianh.com/inventory...pm3ac7l7689382


155 of them on the lot. Easy to get a 19K out the door deal on a car that's been there for 4 months. That was not the one we bought. May go back for that one for my daughter, as she drives my other daughter back and forth to High School.
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Not anywhere around me.

A base model L is right at $30k.

I'll be looking for something for the wife in the next year or two to replace her '96 XJ, so threads like this I find interesting.

Coming from someone who's sick of working on sh*t, and knows how much newer stuff costs to fix...

Kia is very temping if for nothing else the warranty...
See the links above. Fly in, I'll pick you up, drive it home. Cheaper, I guess?
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He's drunk. You can barely find a nice USED anything sub 75k miles for that kind of money unless it's geo metro sized. :sceep:
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I'd like to see you find a new crossover anything for $20k
Yer both drunk.
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We don't have Kia, but a Hyundai dealer. Took a quick look and 40k for a
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He's drunk. You can barely find a nice USED anything sub 75k miles for that kind of money unless it's geo metro sized. :sceep:
Didnít the OP buy one for under $20k in this very thread? Where have you clowns been?
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Why confused?

https://www.quirkkianh.com/inventory...pm3ac7l7689382


155 of them on the lot. Easy to get a 19K out the door deal on a car that's been there for 4 months. That was not the one we bought. May go back for that one for my daughter, as she drives my other daughter back and forth to High School.
damn, those are some big discounts, had no clue

in other news, Kia has really fucked the styling on the Sportage
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damn, those are some big discounts, had no clue

in other news, Kia has really fucked the styling on the Sportage
They look like every other Cute Ute out there, but who gives a fuck? I don't have to look at it. I also don't have to work on it.
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They look like every other Cute Ute out there, but who gives a fuck? I don't have to look at it. I also don't have to work on it.
It's a lot of car for the money, that's for sure
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See the links above. Fly in, I'll pick you up, drive it home. Cheaper, I guess?
Kia Sportage yes.

Title of this thread was Sedona...so that's what I was looking at
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Kia Sportage yes.

Title of this thread was Sedona...so that's what I was looking at
So we have 700 miles on the new sportage.

https://www.quirkkianh.com/inventory...ma5c10l6582666

That is 20577 out the door.

Thinking about something for my 16 year old daughter now.
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