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Old 10-21-2019, 07:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, Linkslide! This One's For You.

...And myself and mostly all of us to varying degrees.

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From my contacts with policymakers in a number of countries I learned quite a bit about how international relations really work. It is quite different from what most people imagine. Countries behave in a more self-interested and less considerate way that most of us would consider appropriate for individuals. When countries negotiate with one another, they typically operate as if they are opponents in a chess match or merchants in a bazaar in which maximizing one's own benefit is the sole objective. Smart leaders know their own countries' vulnerabilities, take advantage of others' vulnerabilities and expect the other countries' leaders to do the same.

Most people who haven't had direct contact with the leadership of their own and other countries form their views based on what they learn in the media, and become quite naive and inappropriately opinionated as a result. That's because dramatic stories and gossip draw more readers and viewers than does clinical objectivity. Also in some cases "Journalists" have their own ideological biases that they are trying to advance. As a result, most people who see the world through the lens of the media tend to look for who is good and who is evil rather than what the vested interests and relative powers are and how they are being played out. For example, people tend to embrace stories about how their own country is moral and their rival country is not, when in most of the time these countries have different interests that they are trying to maximize. The best behaviors one can hope for from leaders who can weigh the benefits of cooperation, and who have long enough time frames that they can see how the gifts they give this year mayb bring them benefits in the future.

These conflicts of vested interests don't just play out internationally; it can also be nasty with countries. Finding what's true and trying to do what's in everyone's best interests is rare, though most policymakers pretend that's what they're doing. More typically, they act in support of their constituents' interests. For example, representatives of those with greater income will say higher taxes stifle growth while representatives of those with less income will say the opposite. It's hard to get everyone to even try to look at a whole picture objectively, let alone to operate in the interests of the whole.

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Section 1, chapter 6.


Landslide, I call you out because it seems like you spend a great deal of time reading and watching media drama instead of trying to gain a better understanding through intelligent literature. You obviously have the time to read. Why subject yourself to all the garbage?
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What is the excerpt from?
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:24 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Looks like it is an excerpt from this guys book


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principles_(book)
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What is the excerpt from?
I wrote the name of the book, the author, which section and chapter at the bottom.
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I wrote the name of the book, the author, which section and chapter at the bottom.

You have been here long enough to know you have to link not just name a name
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You have been here long enough to know you have to link not just name a name
I mean, I wrote the quote straight from the hard copy, soooo.

... here's your link

https://www.amazon.com/Principles-Li...dDbGljaz10cnVl
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...And myself and mostly all of us to varying degrees.





Landslide, I call you out because it seems like you spend a great deal of time reading and watching media drama instead of trying to gain a better understanding through intelligent literature. You obviously have the time to read. Why subject yourself to all the garbage?
Right

I've always said that running this country should be like running a very large buisness and the person in charge is actually a CEO. Dealing with other counteries is like one business dealing with another business. It can go smoothly or it can become a battle. It's the main reason I voted for Trump vs Clintard. It's why I voted for Ross twice as well.

It is also why I always tell people to quit buying Harbor Frieght commie tools as well, you're just strengthening your commie enemy. China is NOT your friend... unless you're a commie.
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How am I not surprised at your quoting from a book like it was the solution to all life. A book, that is at best just inane drivel at the same level as the manifesto of the unibomber.

If you ever had a unique thought in your head, it would die of lonesomeness. So please, don't try to sit there and act like you are some kind of visionary because you know how to copy/paste.
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How am I not surprised at your quoting from a book like it was the solution to all life. A book, that is at best just inane drivel at the same level as the manifesto of the unibomber.

If you ever had a unique thought in your head, it would die of lonesomeness. So please, don't try to sit there and act like you are some kind of visionary because you know how to copy/paste.
Rehashing "edgy" philosophers is what Actinfab does. At least that's what he does now that he's married into a nice family.

Seriously, AF, you come across like an intellectual lightweight. You should really stick to dildos, drugs, conspiracy theories, and metal fabrication. That's more your weight class.
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Rehashing "edgy" philosophers is what Actinfab does. At least that's what he does now that he's married into a nice family.

Seriously, AF, you come across like an intellectual lightweight. You should really stick to dildos, drugs, conspiracy theories, and metal fabrication. That's more your weight class.
Maybe he needs to just take a hike.
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Maybe he needs to just take a hike.
I hear there is a nice trail in the mountains down there.
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Ray Dalio is not an "edgy philosopher".

Raymond Dalio is an American billionaire investor, hedge fund manager, and philanthropist. Dalio is the founder, Co-Chairman and Co-Chief Investment Officer of investment firm Bridgewater Associates, one of the world's largest hedge funds.

He knows what he is talking about. I respect his opinion more than most.
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Ah, you guys are just too much fun.

I read the above quote and instantly thought of landslide constantly holding onto his Fox News bible as truth. Most of the PBB has moved on from the shit show that is mainstream news. But not everyone.
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Ah, you guys are just too much fun.

I read the above quote and instantly thought of landslide constantly holding onto his Fox News bible as truth. Most of the PBB has moved on from the shit show that is mainstream news. But not everyone.
Don't mind them. To that group you're a "moron" if you don't swallow their particular brand of koolaid.
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Don't mind them. To that group you're a "moron" if you don't swallow their particular brand of koolaid.
Well old fellah, at least he swallows

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Well old fellah, at least he swallows

No, that's your thing giz-boy.
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