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Old 11-08-2019, 08:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I used to run the "big" Suzuki 1.6L 16 valve engine in my DD and my trail rig. Lots of creative gearing to make THAT work.

Now I have two cast-iron monsters in the basement, making my house "go".

Caterpillar 3208TA
V-8 Four Stroke Diesel
Bore: 4.5 inches (114.3mm)
Stroke: 5 inches (127mm)
Displacement: 636 Cubic Inches (10.4L)
Compression Ratio: 16.5:1
375 HP
Weight Dry 1,702 lbs EACH (772Kg)

These are old-school engines. Still working like champs!
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These are old-school engines.
I had to look, they were built into the late 90's . They were used in a lot of heavy equipment, a pretty solid power plant.
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I have a pair of d353s both run great, but they are old.

Design Data: Caterpillar four-stroke cycle diesel
Model D353 with six cylinders, 6.25" bore (159
mm), 8" stroke (203 mm), and 1473 cubic inch
displacement (24,1 lit)
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Iím not a 3208 fan. Keep a eye on the water pumps. Only one we owned we blew a head gasket in. I will not buy anything with that engine in it ;(. I hope they last a long time for you.

Now Iím a huge fan of the 3306,3406,and 3412ís.
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Iím not a 3208 fan. Keep a eye on the water pumps. Only one we owned we blew a head gasket in. I will not buy anything with that engine in it ;(. I hope they last a long time for you.

Now Iím a huge fan of the 3306,3406,and 3412ís.
Wasn't that engine used in school buses and medium trucks that are not meant to be driven 500K miles?
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Old 11-08-2019, 02:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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We use em in bank out wagons for rice. They hold up but are considered throw always when they die. Not worth it to rebuild. We just put in a reman for 9k.
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Old 11-08-2019, 04:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Yet the Gnewt had a better horsepower/weight ratio and a higher top speed. Explain that, old man.

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Old 11-08-2019, 05:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Iím not a 3208 fan. Keep a eye on the water pumps. Only one we owned we blew a head gasket in. I will not buy anything with that engine in it ;(. I hope they last a long time for you.

Now Iím a huge fan of the 3306,3406,and 3412ís.
You donít like the 3406? Why? The 3208 was used in a lot of stuff. Not a great engine, but there are a ton of em still flogging away in stuff.
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You donít like the 3406? Why? The 3208 was used in a lot of stuff. Not a great engine, but there are a ton of em still flogging away in stuff.
I really like the 3406 engine series. Tough engines that run forever. Got 3 of them running on one crushing spread. 3208 not so much. We had one in a dump truck and it was a gutless wonder. I have never used one in a industrial application so they may work for that. It just left a bad taste in my mouth.

My 3412 is by far my favorite. That thing makes me smile every time I fire it up. 800 hp at 1800rpm for 15-20,000 hours before a overhaul. The noise it makes when you start a 400 hp electric motor is heavenly.
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I really like the 3406 engine series. Tough engines that run forever. Got 3 of them running on one crushing spread. 3208 not so much. We had one in a dump truck and it was a gutless wonder. I have never used one in a industrial application so they may work for that. It just left a bad taste in my mouth.

My 3412 is by far my favorite. That thing makes me smile every time I fire it up. 800 hp at 1800rpm for 15-20,000 hours before a overhaul. The noise it makes when you start a 400 hp electric motor is heavenly.
Was your 3208 NA or Turbo? I hear more positives about the turbo version than the NA.
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Was your 3208 NA or Turbo? I hear more positives about the turbo version than the NA.
It was a na version so that prolly played a part also.
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worked on the 3208 in twin drum laydown machines....on ford straight truck chassis.......meh for power on road....but wont die.


3408 were on some mud pumps. never broke down.
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Googled "Jefferson Rivanna 52" and came up with this:



Is that ^ approximately the box around your 3208 collection?

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3208’s came in all different flavors. N/A motors are fucking gutless. The turbo 250 horse are a little better. The marine application 375-400hp are pretty sporty. Lol
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3208ís came in all different flavors. N/A motors are fucking gutless. The turbo 250 horse are a little better. The marine application 375-400hp are pretty sporty. Lol
Iíve only been around 3208 naís. Pretty gutless for the cubes. 375 to 400 they definitely werenít!
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Iím not a 3208 fan. Keep a eye on the water pumps.
heh, funny you say that, my grandpa (dirt-mover mechanic, retired in the 90s) had a story about them where if you covered half the rad with cardboard they'd snap the water pump shaft
had to cover the whole thing, then cut a hole centered on the fan
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I worked on a 3208 in a 40k pushback tractor. It had a pipe screwed in to relocate the oil pressure sender for some weird packaging reasons. It somehow broke, pumped all the oil out on the hangar floor and stacked up one bearing under another.

We had to tow it across the airport with another pushback and stick a reman in it. That was a fun job.

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I think they are a fine engine but often overworked in the application. Delivery truck or flat bed fine. Dump truck or overloaded utility bucket truck no.

I did see one run away once. Someone messed up when working on the injection pump. It sat there screaming at what sounded like 5-6k for a few minutes billowing smoke until it got hit with a fire extinguisher.
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I dont understand how Caterpillar engineers could design the 3406 then at the same time design a turd like the 3208 at the same time. And I grew up around Caterpillar. Half my family worked for and retired from them.

I remember the 2 Ford L9000 dump trucks my moms husband had that had 3208 Cats. I swear to god his even older International with a 345 gas engine would out run them.
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I know a family that put a couple into old ford pickups, they are fucking huge, but no power house. The one truck has since been swapped to a 5.9 or 6.7 Cummins to be able to lower the truck to a reasonable height, while it had the cat, it got him a ton of fab work, he'd pull into the dunes with half a huge yellow engine hanging out the bottom, always drew a crowd

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I know a family that put a couple into old ford pickups, they are fucking huge, but no power house. The one truck has since been swapped to a 5.9 or 6.7 Cummins to be able to lower the truck to a reasonable height, while it had the cat, it got him a ton of fab work, he'd pull into the dunes with half a huge yellow engine hanging out the bottom, always drew a crowd

The other one, guy calls his brother for help installing a new clutch, years after the last clutch job.

"Did you put a body lift in yet"
"No"
"Don't fucking call be until you do" click

You talkin about...ah hell I can't remember his name. Had a turbocharged Jeep and some other stuff.
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I have a pair of d353s both run great, but they are old.

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Indeed! Our secondary bow-thruster was one of these oldies. Kept her hot'n'ready as best we could, but she still smoked like a freight train. : Shared some parts with the 398 gensets, so maintaining it wasn't too bad. Not a fan of how both series engines managed to interlock accessory components just enough so you can't service one thing without ripping something else apart. We used to say "Ha! You've been Caterpiller'ed"

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Now Iím a huge fan of the 3306,3406,...
Have worked on both. I enjoy the inlines for sure.

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I dont understand how Caterpillar engineers could design the 3406 then at the same time design a turd like the 3208 at the same time.
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I remember the 2 Ford L9000 dump trucks my moms husband had that had 3208 Cats. I swear to god his even older International with a 345 gas engine would out run them.
I think the north-american obsession with V8s got us there
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You talkin about...ah hell I can't remember his name. Had a turbocharged Jeep and some other stuff.
Bingo

That quiet ass YJ with a 4.0 6 ran a low 12s IIRC, had the question mark spare tire cover
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