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Old 11-19-2019, 08:32 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So, right or wrong, now that the guy was outed, he can go after the government for not protecting him.

Federal law from the Inspector General Act of 1978: “shall not, after receipt of a complaint or information from an employee, disclose the identity of the employee without the consent of the employee, unless the inspector general determines such disclosure is unavoidable.”
NOPE. He can't do jack. The law is written to state that the Inspector General cannot disclose his information. Anyone else on the planet can do so however and he has no protections or obligations of law to remain anonymous. The law only protects him from harassment and protects his employment status.

He has no rights to remain anonymous, and the law dictates that as an accuser, the accused has the right to directly face him in court, another law broken by Schiff as he's preventing Trump lawyers from being present to represent him and hiding the whistleblower's identity.

He broke the rules by going directly to congress. He broke the rules by second guessing the IG by going outside the proper chain of command after the IG ruled that he had conflicts of interest, and having worked for Obama, Biden, and Brennan as a CIA employee.

He has no merit as a whistleblower as he can't meet the proper definitions, and even if he did, he had no direct knowledge, only hearsay of the events, which have been proven to be legal.

Secondhand knowledge was not allowed, so the Democrats changed the whistleblower laws to allow secondhand knowledge, and back dated the rules.

Everything about this is a crap show and Pelosi and Schiff have broken a dozen ethics rules and possibly a few laws to keep this clown show in action. Like someone said, it's a political campaign masquerading as an impeachment inquiry.

The Democrats are committing political suicide in a last ditch effort to prevent him from getting reelected. Nancy Pelosi even admitted that if they lost the House in 2020, it would all be worth it just to keep him out of office. I doubt they'll get either. It's unlikely they'll have any credibility after this mess and Trump is killing it in the polls for a 2020 win.


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Where's his protection?

He actually told people about the swamp and proved it existed. Made enemies on both sides despite being a modern hero.
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:35 PM   #28 (permalink)
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He actually told people about the swamp and proved it existed. Made enemies on both sides despite being a modern hero.
We know... just making a sarcastic point.
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NOPE. He can't do jack. The law is written to state that the Inspector General cannot disclose his information. Anyone else on the planet can do so however and he has no protections or obligations of law to remain anonymous. The law only protects him from harassment and protects his employment status.

He has no rights to remain anonymous, and the law dictates that as an accuser, the accused has the right to directly face him in court, another law broken by Schiff as he's preventing Trump lawyers from being present to represent him and hiding the whistleblower's identity.

He broke the rules by going directly to congress. He broke the rules by second guessing the IG by going outside the proper chain of command after the IG ruled that he had conflicts of interest, and having worked for Obama, Biden, and Brennan as a CIA employee.

He has no merit as a whistleblower as he can't meet the proper definitions, and even if he did, he had no direct knowledge, only hearsay of the events, which have been proven to be legal.

Secondhand knowledge was not allowed, so the Democrats changed the whistleblower laws to allow secondhand knowledge, and back dated the rules.

Everything about this is a crap show and Pelosi and Schiff have broken a dozen ethics rules and possibly a few laws to keep this clown show in action. Like someone said, it's a political campaign masquerading as an impeachment inquiry.

The Democrats are committing political suicide in a last ditch effort to prevent him from getting reelected. Nancy Pelosi even admitted that if they lost the House in 2020, it would all be worth it just to keep him out of office. I doubt they'll get either. It's unlikely they'll have any credibility after this mess and Trump is killing it in the polls for a 2020 win.


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Everything about this is a crap show and Pelosi and Schiff have broken a dozen ethics rules and possibly a few laws to keep this clown show in action. Like someone said, it's a political campaign masquerading as an impeachment inquiry.

The Democrats are committing political suicide in a last ditch effort to prevent him from getting reelected. Nancy Pelosi even admitted that if they lost the House in 2020, it would all be worth it just to keep him out of office. I doubt they'll get either. It's unlikely they'll have any credibility after this mess and Trump is killing it in the polls for a 2020 win.


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Pelosi did not want that, and she should not have wanted it. It was the Young Turk Democrats who pushed for this. They have nothing to lose, and they are Chakrabarti puppets anyway.

Pelosi and the old-line Dems have something to lose. You politics-involved mid-levelers constantly miss this angle. They have now blown their wad way early in the game.

The young bull dragged the old bull down the hill, and they've effectively only fucked one cow and came too early to boot.

At this point, it's going to take Trump either smashing baby's heads on Pennsylvania Ave, or walking on water and magicking prime rib dinners out of thin air to change anyone's minds. I don't know if he'll win, it's going to be close. You can't even say it's demographically, enough blacks and hispanics secretly like the guy because he's such a Bossman. He makes everyone else look like the faggots that they are. Imagine Jeb Bush facing off against Putin Or Elixabeth Warren
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:14 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Medium serious. You know this guy is already working on a lawsuit to say the government didn't do enough to protect his identity. He pretty much has to. Neither party wants the risk of someone who will snitch working for them, so he's pretty much out of a job now that his name is out there.
but he'll promptly get a book deal and make his way to all the national tv news shows as soon as it's over.
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NOPE. He can't do jack. The law is written to state that the Inspector General cannot disclose his information. Anyone else on the planet can do so however and he has no protections or obligations of law to remain anonymous. The law only protects him from harassment and protects his employment status.

He has no rights to remain anonymous, and the law dictates that as an accuser, the accused has the right to directly face him in court, another law broken by Schiff as he's preventing Trump lawyers from being present to represent him and hiding the whistleblower's identity.

He broke the rules by going directly to congress. He broke the rules by second guessing the IG by going outside the proper chain of command after the IG ruled that he had conflicts of interest, and having worked for Obama, Biden, and Brennan as a CIA employee.

He has no merit as a whistleblower as he can't meet the proper definitions, and even if he did, he had no direct knowledge, only hearsay of the events, which have been proven to be legal.

Secondhand knowledge was not allowed, so the Democrats changed the whistleblower laws to allow secondhand knowledge, and back dated the rules.

Everything about this is a crap show and Pelosi and Schiff have broken a dozen ethics rules and possibly a few laws to keep this clown show in action. Like someone said, it's a political campaign masquerading as an impeachment inquiry.

The Democrats are committing political suicide in a last ditch effort to prevent him from getting reelected. Nancy Pelosi even admitted that if they lost the House in 2020, it would all be worth it just to keep him out of office. I doubt they'll get either. It's unlikely they'll have any credibility after this mess and Trump is killing it in the polls for a 2020 win.


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Old 11-20-2019, 07:28 AM   #33 (permalink)
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NOPE. He can't do jack. The law is written to state that the Inspector General cannot disclose his information. Anyone else on the planet can do so however and he has no protections or obligations of law to remain anonymous. The law only protects him from harassment and protects his employment status.

He has no rights to remain anonymous, and the law dictates that as an accuser, the accused has the right to directly face him in court, another law broken by Schiff as he's preventing Trump lawyers from being present to represent him and hiding the whistleblower's identity.

He broke the rules by going directly to congress. He broke the rules by second guessing the IG by going outside the proper chain of command after the IG ruled that he had conflicts of interest, and having worked for Obama, Biden, and Brennan as a CIA employee.

He has no merit as a whistleblower as he can't meet the proper definitions, and even if he did, he had no direct knowledge, only hearsay of the events, which have been proven to be legal.

Secondhand knowledge was not allowed, so the Democrats changed the whistleblower laws to allow secondhand knowledge, and back dated the rules.

Everything about this is a crap show and Pelosi and Schiff have broken a dozen ethics rules and possibly a few laws to keep this clown show in action. Like someone said, it's a political campaign masquerading as an impeachment inquiry.

The Democrats are committing political suicide in a last ditch effort to prevent him from getting reelected. Nancy Pelosi even admitted that if they lost the House in 2020, it would all be worth it just to keep him out of office. I doubt they'll get either. It's unlikely they'll have any credibility after this mess and Trump is killing it in the polls for a 2020 win.


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surprising the Dem's can still find party members who are willing to go to such extremes to further the party's bullshit agenda, knowing this will likely be their last moments in the spotlight.

I hope this stunt does serious damage to the Dems. They accomplished nothing in 3 years.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:25 AM   #34 (permalink)
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He has no merit as a whistleblower as he can't meet the proper definitions, and even if he did, he had no direct knowledge, only hearsay of the events, which have been proven to be legal.

Secondhand knowledge was not allowed, so the Democrats changed the whistleblower laws to allow secondhand knowledge, and back dated the rules._
Currently he meets the whistleblower rules. And hearsay is aloud under these rules. You are right that they changed the rules to accommodate him. This maybe his and the Dems undoing. Someone had to sign off on that change. If they find that someone and deturmine he was in a conspiracy, they can all go to jail. If schif is part of the conspiracy, him included. That would make it all worth it.
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Old 11-20-2019, 08:32 AM   #35 (permalink)
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but he'll promptly get a book deal and make his way to all the national tv news shows as soon as it's over.
As soon as his usefulness hits zero the Dems will drop him faster than Blasey-Ford.

But he will no longer be leaking things from inside. Be interesting to see if that crap slows down with him no longer in place.
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He has no rights to remain anonymous, and the law dictates that as an accuser, the accused has the right to directly face him in court, another law broken by Schiff as he's preventing Trump lawyers from being present to represent him and hiding the whistleblower's identity.
I keep hearing people say this, but it doesn't make sense to me. Court isn't happening yet. Right now it's just a bunch of lawmakers holding hearings to decide if they should even think about impeaching the president(aka grandstanding while being too politically scared to make a move one way or the other). After that he still has to be impeached, and THEN, he finally goes to court if it is decided to bring charges against him.

There's no court, no trial, no hearings yet, so no reason to know who snitched or "directly face him". Everyone is acting like this is an actual trial and the outcome will mean something just because PBS decided to air it. It isn't and it doesn't mean shit. Exposing the guy's identity now would be like telling an (accused)drug dealer who ratted on them before going to trial.
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That's true; all the way up until they decide to suicide him....



Just sayin'.
This right here. Neither side wants a dude who will leak to the authorities around their sensitive information.
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So that's interesting...

I put that same pic on book of faces with the caption "WHISTLEBLOWER".

In less than a couple hours, it's gone.


hmmmmmmmmm.

If you have an account, maybe post the pic and see what happens...

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but he'll promptly get a book deal and make his way to all the national tv news shows as soon as it's over.
Don't forget the huge amount of cash he will get "donated" into his Go Fund Me account. I bet Mittens will donate to it. That Ford broad who witnessed against Kavanaugh made almost a million in donations.
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