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Old 01-17-2020, 06:05 PM   #451 (permalink)
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I'm hoping Trump federalizes the Virginia National guard for the day, much like Eisenhower did in Little Rock when the governor tried to stop desegregation using the National Guard.
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I'm hoping Trump federalizes the Virginia National guard for the day, much like Eisenhower did in Little Rock when the governor tried to stop desegregation using the National Guard.
Or, Kent State for that matter.
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Or, Kent State for that matter.
exactly, the government enforcing it's will on the people, rather than allowing for individual freedom and responsibility, never works out.

I don't know why you support expanding the federal government in any regard
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exactly, the government enforcing it's will on the people, rather than allowing for individual freedom and responsibility, never works out.

I don't know why you support expanding the federal government in any regard
Because he's a Communist?
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Because he's a Communist?
Fascism is Fascism. I dont care who's in the line of fire. Trump using the Nat Guard isn't his call anyway, dumbass.
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Or, Kent State for that matter.

180 from what I was implying. You realize that that Governor Blackface called a state of emergency so he could use national guard as protection, I was suggesting Trump Federalize them and give them an order along the lines to stay in the Barracks, make BBQ, and watch a movie.
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I'm hoping Trump federalizes the Virginia National guard for the day, much like Eisenhower did in Little Rock when the governor tried to stop desegregation using the National Guard.
What exactly authorizes the federal government to take over a state's National Guard? I'm not sure I like that (even if Ike did it for a good reason).
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What exactly authorizes the federal government to take over a state's National Guard? I'm not sure I like that (even if Ike did it for a good reason).
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406 I was just using Eisenhower as an example of when a President took control from a Governor.
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180 from what I was implying. You realize that that Governor Blackface called a state of emergency so he could use national guard as protection, I was suggesting Trump Federalize them and give them an order along the lines to stay in the Barracks, make BBQ, and watch a movie.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...htmlstory.html

Sounds like it needs to be a black thing, of which, this is not.
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Sounds like it needs to be a black thing, of which, this is not.
you are right, the government is racist.

which is why it is just as important to support rights for all people as it is for rights of just [race] people
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12406 I was just using Eisenhower as an example of when a President took control from a Governor.
And a prime reason as to why the claim that having a national guard nullifies the second amendment because they fulfill the role of a militia.

Could be really useful in court if he did that.
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Trump says Second Amendment is 'under very serious attack' in Virginia ahead of gun-rights rally

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And.......?
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And.......?
And if the commie governor tries to use Nat Guard against the people, Trump will not let it happen.
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Well, he's done his share of that too
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And on the other hand, will anyone who has replied in this thread do anything other than more talk ? Any men of action here?
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And on the other hand, will anyone who has replied in this thread do anything other than more talk ? Any men of action here?
Doubt it. Still waiting for a reply.
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Fbi and ATF are monitoring pretty much everything. Don't ever think they aren't.
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I'm hoping Trump federalizes the Virginia National guard for the day, much like Eisenhower did in Little Rock when the governor tried to stop desegregation using the National Guard.
As much as I'd love to see that happen, there's about zero chance of it given that it's an election year. If he did and something happened during the protests the media would never let it go.
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Fbi and ATF are monitoring pretty much everything. Don't ever think they aren't.
Yet another reason why talking shit when doing nothing from a thousand miles away is fucking retarded. All this is going to take to go South is another moron like the Challenger guy from Charlottesville. If there is another "Shot Heard Around the World", it needs to come from them, not "us". With as bullheaded and rash as Ralphie is being, it's entirely possible that it will happen.




Make no mistake, this is not a situation where people need to start shooting people already. Yes, The retards in the major cities of Virginia fucked the entire state with their voting habits. Yes, Ralphie and his cronies are going to push through a bunch of bullshit that will most likely be tied up in court until he is tossed out in favor of a Republican and it all gets reversed.

That is most likely how all of this is going to play out. Yes, some people might even lose their guns or rights and have to fight in court until they are broke to get them back and even then may not win, but that is how the cookie crumbles. A couple of fools or even a couple small groups of fools shooting shit, blowing up shit or running people over in the street is just going to set the whole thing back, make all 2nd supporters look like lunatics, and these few will just get blasted for being wackos and extremists, not patriots or US Constitution supporters. You will not be heros, you will be labeled as crazy, gun toting nut jobs and will be used as ammunition against every gun owner from then on.

What this is, is a wake up call to the rest of the country to get the fuck off your lazy ass and vote. Stop pulling the bullshit of "oh, they both suck" or "there is no good choice" or the fucking retarded "I vote my conscience and I choose a libertarian that doesn't a chance in hel of winning". This is what you get when you don't vote defensively, or don't vote at all. How is your conscience feeling when your vote thrown away leads to the 2nd Amendment getting trashed in your state the way it is here? I bet it feels awesome, you stupid fucks.

But by all means, yes, exercise your rights. Yes, protest, give a show of force and determination. Yes, write and speak with your legislators. Push for more "sanctuaries" even if it is more symbolic than binding, it's still showing the rest of the country we are here and we are numerous. Look at how it snowballed here in Virginia. Let that shot spread to every state it possibly can. But don't sit in your chair at home watching YouTube and Netflix and fuss because no one is "lighting the fuse" or "kicking off the new Civil War". Keep your more whacked out and over excited people under wraps and make yourself heard instead of causing another international news article or incident that will be used against us forever.

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Nice to see people talking shit from the safety of their own porch.
I laid out a plan where counties could send a clear message amd would also put it on the state government to fire the first shot.

I was then told by a virginian all the reasons why it wouldnt work and how the media would be mean and boo hook hoo.

After that, fuck y'all. Handle it yourself.
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I laid out a plan where counties could send a clear message amd would also put it on the state government to fire the first shot.

I was then told by a virginian all the reasons why it wouldnt work and how the media would be mean and boo hook hoo.

After that, fuck y'all. Handle it yourself.
Like mentioned a few pages back, the Bundy ranch ordeal were people getting off the porch, and militias from other states showed up. No one is going to fight this fight for VA, but if they cast a stone and call for help, it will come.

Yes, our founders made it so we can manage these things peacefully, but after watching the lying during the impeachment process, and now this...seems they don't listen nor care about us, the people.
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Yes, our founders made it so we can manage these things peacefully, but after watching the lying during the impeachment process, and now this...seems they don't listen nor care about us, the people.
That's nothing new. Hell, that's been going on for the better part of a hundred years by both parties.

If Virginians are just figuring THAT out, they are way behind.
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Fbi and ATF are monitoring pretty much everything. Don't ever think they aren't.
There's always the option to do nothing if you feel it'll do no good...but.. pushing baclk again bullies always carries a risk...
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