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Old 12-05-2019, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone ever put a wood burning fireplace into your home?

I've got an exterior wall in our den that would be perfect for a fireplace. I want to put in a wood burning fireplace with a gas feed/starter underneath.

Has anyone done this? I'm trying to figure out chimney heights, requirements, etc. There are a lot of wood burning inserts out now versus a full brick fireplace and I'm confused as hell.

If you've done this, what all did you have to do? Go above roof line with chimney, or just off a distance? How much did you end up spending with something like this?
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Top of the stack needs to be two feet higher than anything within ten feet. This is to provide enough draft.
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bought my new home in may, didn't realize till last week how much i would miss having a wood burning fireplace..... fuck the gas unit the new place came with. being out in the country on propane is not the setup for me vs. wood!...... def keeping a eye on this encase you pull the trigger!
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I've got an exterior wall in our den that would be perfect for a fireplace. I want to put in a wood burning fireplace with a gas feed/starter underneath.

Has anyone done this? I'm trying to figure out chimney heights, requirements, etc. There are a lot of wood burning inserts out now versus a full brick fireplace and I'm confused as hell.

If you've done this, what all did you have to do? Go above roof line with chimney, or just off a distance? How much did you end up spending with something like this?
If you have nothing currently then you want a “Prefab or Zero Clearance” fireplace. The easiest option would be a freestanding wood stove. Those don’t use any gas starters since they are sealed units.
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all you are asking for is spelled out in the international building code, one and two family structures.
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Chapter 10: Chimneys and Fireplaces, Residential Code 2015 of New York State | UpCodes
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First are we booty fabbing this outlaw, or by the book???
#2?... Then call the smog natzi's and building dept. Get the info. Necessary.

Steel frame, draft stop the chase,fire stop the penetration, BIG hearth, quality log lighter.
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Did my own free standing wood stove about 10 years ago. 2' above the roof line, triple wall pipe with matching pass through's on the ceiling and roof. $750 total.
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The house that we just bought has a free standing Fisher wood stove and we love it! The whole interior was gutted and remodeled. I built a new 4'x8' hearth with 2x4's on 6" center with 3/4" ply and then hardibacker on that covered in tile. The stovepipe needed to be replaced, which cost us $2,100 just for the replacement including labor. The hole in the ceiling and roof were already there. The hearth was probably $3-400 in materials and we had a tile guy lay the tile. We also redid the heat barrier on the back wall to update that a bit. Probably a few hundred in the Stackstone and then labor for the tile guy to install.

I am no expert by any means, but we are happy with the result. We can get our 1,700 sqft place into the 80's when it is in the 30's outside. A fan is nice to have to move the air around as well. For us, that is just a box fan behind the stove until we do something more permanent.
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Are you looking for a fireplace with a hearth (something non combustible) and a mantle or a wood stove?
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Most Wood fired fireplaces are just about 0% efficient so that's something to consider.

If you plan on using it to actually heat the house a wood stove would make much more sense.

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Have a Rumford masonry fireplace built, you will love it and it will increase the value of your home by the amount spent on the fireplace. those cheap metal units, I just have never trusted them.
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I have one in my house. My ceiling is about 18' it pokes out about a foot over the ridge. My house is a log cabin so the stove is sitting on a flag stone floor that goes up the wall roughly 4'. The roof is 2x6 dimensional boards with a metal roof directly over that. So there's not a standard ceiling/attic/plywood/shingle to go through. I have a double wall stove pipe with a flapper. I routinely burn my stove with the doors open and it has never once back drafted smoke into the house. The cap I have on the stove pipe is baffled.

We use wood to heat the nose most of the winter.

If you bought everything new, I'd say the stove costs 3-5k and another $1-2k to get it installed safely. Most of that is going to depend on what you put the stove on and how you surround it. My parents framed old barn tin behind theirs and put it on a simple tile 5'x5' tile floor.
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We have a large stone fireplace with powered vents in it that was pretty decent for heat output. About 10 years ago we put an insert into it, puts out 10X the heat and you still have the large stone fireplace and can see the fire. Have the option to open the insert door and put a screen in if you want the smell and crackle and pop of the fire. The sealed insert door also cut down all of the smoke that would fill the room when the flue was cold and not drafting yet.

be sure to check with your homeowners insurance as some won't cover a freestanding stove.
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Most Wood fired fireplaces are just about 0% efficient so that's something to consider.

If you plan on using it to actually heat the house a wood stove would make much more sense.
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We have a large stone fireplace with powered vents in it that was pretty decent for heat output. About 10 years ago we put an insert into it, puts out 10X the heat and you still have the large stone fireplace and can see the fire. Have the option to open the insert door and put a screen in if you want the smell and crackle and pop of the fire. The sealed insert door also cut down all of the smoke that would fill the room when the flue was cold and not drafting yet.

be sure to check with your homeowners insurance as some won't cover a freestanding stove.
About the same story here. Moved into this house about 12 years ago and it had an open fireplace. Knew that would suck so I built an insert to go into it. Lit my wall on fire, because the tile chimney liner was right up against some fucking celotex because some asshole cut corners building the chimney. You couldn't see anything wrong with it from inside the chimney, but after the fire you could see exactly what happened. Fixed the wall and chimney properly and kept using the insert.

Just a couple weeks ago the door glass started rattling cause some of the glass gasket fell out. I decided I wanted to fix the doors up a bit better, and was actually just working on finishing that up this afternoon.

Here's a couple pics of it from 12 years ago when I started building it.

I have a small squirrel cage fan that pulls room air and blows it into a square tube at the bottom. Then the air runs through the curved pipe fire grate and out the top. Works like a charm.


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Put a free standing zero clearance wood stove in my house. All I did was build the hearth/base. Base was 2x4 framing on edge. Sheet of 3/4 ply then 2 layers of cement board. Then brick on top of that with a clear coat sealer. Did not get a permit but...I then had a stove company install the rest so it could be certified. Homeowners insurance and all that crap if something went sideways. The stove is awesome, heats my 1500 sq ft no problem

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Did my own free standing wood stove about 10 years ago. 2' above the roof line, triple wall pipe with matching pass through's on the ceiling and roof. $750 total.
This is the way to go. Exterior wall chimneys are not a good idea. Freestanding stoves are better at heating than a fireplace, especially on an exterior wall

IDK if a gas start is an okay thing to do by code anymore. Certainly not needed.
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we ran a liner up the existing chimney & put a wood stove insert in, and run it from october to may just about.... Getting wood and chopping wood is a the biggest pain in the nut sack, but it keeps the main area of the house 70+ degrees all the time....
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I have a small squirrel cage fan that pulls room air and blows it into a square tube at the bottom. Then the air runs through the curved pipe fire grate and out the top. Works like a charm.


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we ran a liner up the existing chimney & put a wood stove insert in, and run it from october to may just about.... Getting wood and chopping wood is a the biggest pain in the nut sack, but it keeps the main area of the house 70+ degrees all the time....
I do it just about everyday. Delivered about 350 cords last year.
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If you want the look with less hassle and more efficiency, Harman makes pellet fireplaces.
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I installed a free standing wood stove in our house when we moved in 3 years ago.
2x4 metal studs against wall, hardi backer next, stone after that. 2x6 base, hardi backer, pour in place concrete top 2" thick, stamped. Blaze King princess stove was expensive, and triple wall pipe kit was terrible because of how far down my roof it exits, I have 9' of triple wall sticking out. Think I have as over 3k into it. Followed building code and stove space requirements.
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I used an insert when I built my house. It was pretty badass, but never put a stove in a room with a tall ceiling. It has to be 145 deg F at the top for it to be comfortable at the bottom.

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I've got an exterior wall in our den that would be perfect for a fireplace. I want to put in a wood burning fireplace with a gas feed/starter underneath.

Has anyone done this? I'm trying to figure out chimney heights, requirements, etc. There are a lot of wood burning inserts out now versus a full brick fireplace and I'm confused as hell.

If you've done this, what all did you have to do? Go above roof line with chimney, or just off a distance? How much did you end up spending with something like this?
chimney needs to be 3ft. higher than roofline at the height the pipe comes up. So not the roof ridgeline, just 3ft above the nearest
Class A pipe the whole way. Class A is double or triple wall pipe. You'll want this for good drafting too
Pipe alone will run about $2500

Stove needs to either be sitting on concrete foundation or be set on a non burnable surface to shield the floor from heat. if you're going through the wall and then up, the pipe coming out of the stove should be minimum 18" from the ceiling. 20-24" would be more preferable

For wood stoves, look at models with the catalytic converter. They're very very very efficient. When I say efficient, I'm talking they burn more completely so your wood will last longer(insert joke) . I'm putting in a wood stove right now. I picked up a Vermont Castings Defiant model for $300.
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