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Old 12-28-2019, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Manual Trans will not separate. wtf????

I have never seen this.

Clearing out my boneyard of POS cars so I can sell them during Car Dealer Christmas (ie Tax Time)

Anyway today I pulled motor / trans from 05 Hyundai Elantra

Easy peasy.

Went to seperate the 5 speed trans from the motor and it WILL NOT come apart.

I can pry it an inch or so and then it snaps back together.

besides the rod knock car drove and shifted just fine, no issues.

How can the input shaft be stuck into the pilot bearing?

What the hell can I do to get these to fuckers apart so I can finish this job and sell this car for a loss?
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think those ones might have the throw out bearing that clips into the clutch cover, I think you have to remove the clutch fork to disengage.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:54 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think those ones might have the throw out bearing that clips into the clutch cover, I think you have to remove the clutch fork to disengage.
Correct. It's a "pull clutch" not push or whatever the terminology is. I learned like you did first time swapping a clutch on a 99 Tiburon.
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Old 12-28-2019, 04:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Correct. It's a "pull clutch" not push or whatever the terminology is. I learned like you did first time swapping a clutch on a 99 Tiburon.
Ok, this is the first time seeing it.

I tried pushing the lever the same way the slave pushes it but it did not release it.

I will look into this.

I thought it was the same as the other dozen front wheel drive trans I've pulled.

Thank you
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You try dynamite yet?
Lol one of my crushers has a warning in the operating manual not to use explosives to clear a jam. No joke. We laugh at that all the time.
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Take a picture too so you'll have an exploded parts view.
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Take the arm off of the clutch pivot shaft to let it turn all the way and it will release.
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some years ago i broke an r151 bell housing trying to separate it from the engine due to a stupid bearing being seized to the shaft
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Old 12-28-2019, 05:04 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Take the arm off of the clutch pivot shaft to let it turn all the way and it will release.

I would have never thought of that.

I will do that in the morning.

Thanks!
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I'm a cheap mutherfawker, but parting out Hyundai's is some master level cheap mutherfawkedness.
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I would have never thought of that.

I will do that in the morning.

Thanks!
I knew it was a Hyundai when I read the title. My first one fought me for a while, I was able to Google fu it myself though
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I'm a cheap mutherfawker, but parting out Hyundai's is some master level cheap mutherfawkedness.


Who is parting them out?

I am replacing a motor with a rod knock so I can sell it.
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Hit it with a hammer. If it doesn't come apart get a bigger hammer. Repeat until desired results are achieved.
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Old 12-28-2019, 07:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What the hell can I do to get these to fuckers apart so I can finish this job and sell this car for a loss?
I vote skip the repair work step and go ahead and sell it as a parts rig, and record the loss for this year. I love a shitbox as much as anyone, but hyundai/kia > 10 yr old is pretty firmly in the disposable vehicle category.

I pass on them all the time because they're just not worth much even in immaculate condition, and plentiful so any minor issues/repairs will erode a significant portion of the profitability in the flip model.
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I vote skip the repair work step and go ahead and sell it as a parts rig, and record the loss for this year. I love a shitbox as much as anyone, but hyundai/kia > 10 yr old is pretty firmly in the disposable vehicle category.

I pass on them all the time because they're just not worth much even in immaculate condition, and plentiful so any minor issues/repairs will erode a significant portion of the profitability in the flip model.
I agree with what you are saying.

However, I have already bought the replacement engine, my labor is cheap.

I am getting out of the business and just want to liquidate what I have left.

I will have $1,300 in this car and should sell for around there so not horrible, better than scrapping it for $260

This particular car I had financed out for a few months to someone so I have already likely made my money back on it already.
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have you tried wedges to keep them separated while you switch sides? that will help keep it somewhat straight.
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Lol one of my crushers has a warning in the operating manual not to use explosives to clear a jam. No joke. We laugh at that all the time.
Doh!

What brand? I worked at a hydraulic cylinder manufacturer, one of our jobs was cylinders for crushers. They had an 8 bore and 6 stroke.
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However, I have already bought the replacement engine, my labor is cheap.

I am getting out of the business and just want to liquidate what I have left.

I will have $1,300 in this car and should sell for around there so not horrible, better than scrapping it for $260

This particular car I had financed out for a few months to someone so I have already likely made my money back on it already.
All of that are reasons why you're "getting out of the business".
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Doh!

What brand? I worked at a hydraulic cylinder manufacturer, one of our jobs was cylinders for crushers. They had an 8 bore and 6 stroke.
The ones with the warnings are the Lippmann jaw crushers.
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Take the arm off of the clutch pivot shaft to let it turn all the way and it will release.
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I would have never thought of that.

I will do that in the morning.

Thanks!
Took me forever to figure that out on my wife's Hyundai years ago. Throw out bearing clips into the pressure plate, and the forks have to slide out of the bearing by rotating.
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