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Old 01-16-2020, 05:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Replacing Halogen Headlights with Led

I am going through a H11 Sylvania Silverstar low beam bulb every couple of months. I am getting tired of the hassle and cost and thinking of going to Led's. Ive just started looking into them and am really surprised as to how cheap I am finding them. This time of year I put about 2.5 hours on the road every day in the dark and need good light and reliability.

What are your experiences retrofitting Halogens and what did you use?
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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What vehicle? If your headlights have reflectors none of the cheap LED or HID conversions will work with a shit. The light pattern sucks.

Some projectors work, but still not as well as a good retrofit.

The retrofit source has badass retrofit kits, taking apart the headlight isn’t as bad as it seems and is absolutely worth the effort.
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Some bulbs work fine in regular housings but most just puke light into oncoming traffic with little to no focus.

What is your application?
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why are you going through low beams every couple of months?

I'd answer that before spending money on more bulbs...
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why are you going through low beams every couple of months?

I'd answer that before spending money on more bulbs...
Yup, this.

Loose housing rattling around? Bad connection/ground/over voltage?
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why are you going through low beams every couple of months?

I'd answer that before spending money on more bulbs...
Because Silverstars are junk and donít last.
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Because Silverstars are junk and donít last.
Right. Got it. Well informed post there.

But let's run with it.

"replace the one light you keep burning out with a different brand, because Silvertars are junk and don't last. problem solved."
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Right. Got it. Well informed post there.

But let's run with it.

"replace the one light you keep burning out with a different brand, because Silvertars are junk and don't last. problem solved."
Been running Silverstars in my vehicles for years.

I cannot say they are the best as I am not a certified light bulb "judgerator", but I cannot imagine they are the worst.

It is much easier to blame the product than to diagnose the issue in the vehicle. :thumbs:
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2014 subaru crosstrek. I put a meter on and voltage was over 14. Both sides burn out. Sylvania seems to be what all the auto parts places sell around here. I have heard from others that the next step up from the silverstars which I think are called goldstars have a shorter life than the silverstars.
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14.2 or so is normal... but what is "Over 14"? Could be a voltage regulator going bad?

I bet those headlights are bright!
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Beamtechs have been suggested in other circles as being "good".

I learned allot from this thread on ADV but I haven't bought any yet...
https://advrider.com/f/threads/how-t...-want.1080510/
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Right. Got it. Well informed post there.

But let's run with it.

"replace the one light you keep burning out with a different brand, because Silvertars are junk and don't last. problem solved."
Any of my customers that has come in with a concern of ďmy headlights keep burning outĒ either has had an obvious burned connection at the bulb socket, or silverstar bulbs.

Sylvania lost a class action lawsuit because the bulbs were marketed as longer lasting and they didnít last as long as they claimed.

The internet is also full of posts from people that got a short lifespan out of their silverstar bulbs. They simply arenít worth the money.

My vehicles that still run halogens all use Philips Xtreme vision. The set in my truck are going on 6 years old at this point and still work fine.
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Any of my customers that has come in with a concern of ďmy headlights keep burning outĒ either has had an obvious burned connection at the bulb socket, or silverstar bulbs.

Sylvania lost a class action lawsuit because the bulbs were marketed as longer lasting and they didnít last as long as they claimed.

The internet is also full of posts from people that got a short lifespan out of their silverstar bulbs. They simply arenít worth the money.

My vehicles that still run halogens all use Philips Xtreme vision. The set in my truck are going on 6 years old at this point and still work fine.
Fuck. I put silverstars in my wifes 4Runner not long ago...
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Because Silverstars are junk and donít last.
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Right. Got it. Well informed post there.

But let's run with it.

"replace the one light you keep burning out with a different brand, because Silvertars are junk and don't last. problem solved."
Heat kills bulbs. Halogen bulbs get hot and the brighter they are, the hotter they are. Especially if the headlight capsule in smaller, a brighter than stock bulb will burn out faster.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:22 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I bought led bulbs for my mid-travel tundra that sees a lot of off-road miles. I put them in and turned them on, happy about the bright white light they put out but not happy that the bulb seal wouldn’t fit with them in place. Then I heard the little tiny cooling fan in them and decided that one dose of mud or snow would end the fan and cook the bulbs. I took them out and ordered the 2nd brightest sylvania bulbs.


So I wouldn’t use less on most vehicles. They aren’t ready yet. Get a led light bar on amazon and run that when your headlights aren’t enough. Just remember to turn it off around other traffic and aim it low.
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Read the back of the bulb package. Anything but the "standard" will say right on the back that it's going to burn out 10x faster.
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Any of my customers that has come in with a concern of ďmy headlights keep burning outĒ either has had an obvious burned connection at the bulb socket, or silverstar bulbs.

Sylvania lost a class action lawsuit because the bulbs were marketed as longer lasting and they didnít last as long as they claimed.

The internet is also full of posts from people that got a short lifespan out of their silverstar bulbs. They simply arenít worth the money.

My vehicles that still run halogens all use Philips Xtreme vision. The set in my truck are going on 6 years old at this point and still work fine.
My Silverstars burned out, days apart, at 1 year. Threw in some shitty generic bulbs, never burned one out again. I looked at it as a trade off for the better lighting, but didn't drive enough in the dark to care.
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Right. Got it. Well informed post there.

But let's run with it.

"replace the one light you keep burning out with a different brand, because Silvertars are junk and don't last. problem solved."
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Fuck. I put silverstars in my wifes 4Runner not long ago...
I run them in my 4runners and have for years. They last about 2-3 years. My commute is 1.5 hours a day and they are on the whole time. Don't worry about it. I put in Ultra's last time. They are awesome. But not asshole bright so everyone flashes you. Like all the dumbasses that put LED bulbs in a normal reflector housing. Those people should be run off the road.

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I had the same issue in my daily. Bitched to the guy at the auto parts store while I was buying my third pack of bulbs in a year and he told me to stop buying the more expensive, brighter bulbs and just get the cheap-o not-so-bright bulbs instead.. still made by Sylvania.

Tried that and those bulbs lasted the last 2 years I owned my truck.
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But not asshole bright so everyone flashes you. Like all the dumbasses that put LED bulbs in a normal reflector housing. Those people should be run off the road.
This is old information. The new LED's have gotten efficient enough that the size can be brought down to about the same size as an incandescent filament. I ran the old large format emitters for awhile and they weren't so great. I use them for my hi-beams now. The new ones I use for low beams now are muuch better.
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I worked in a rural area that crossed 7 miles of national forest, and open range cattle lease. After yet another coworker totaled a truck related to animals on the road, I put an Amazon light bar in the bumper of my DD, well worth it IMO
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My '07 Subie Impreza 5 doors hates any of the Sylvania bulbs, but loves the cheapo NAPA ones. YMMV.
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I worked in a rural area that crossed 7 miles of national forest, and open range cattle lease. After yet another coworker totaled a truck related to animals on the road, I put an Amazon light bar in the bumper of my DD, well worth it IMO
Similar I run 2 Baja Designs S2 lights on my Jeep and love them. Ran them on my Dodge and similar setup on my BMW when I had them, low enough and aimed, it doesn't bother traffic either.

I am amazed I have IPF H4 inserts in my Cherokee that I have had for over 12 years. LED are better but they ice over in the winter.
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