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Old 09-25-2018, 03:22 AM   #1001 (permalink)
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Cool! What's inside the sprinter? Camper, mormon kid hauler, work van, or hobo rape shack?
Cargo van with faux windows on the sides. Years ago my in-laws condo complex would not allow a van with no windows to park overnight. Solved that problem easily.
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Old 09-25-2018, 09:43 PM   #1002 (permalink)
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Been ripping around the Delta for the last few weekends. Had it up to 94mph before I got out of it. The boat did 102 with the current prop on it out in FL. I'll be up at the Oroville afterbay next tuesday doing some prop testing and setup tinkering to see what we can get out of her!
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:12 AM   #1003 (permalink)
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Been ripping around the Delta for the last few weekends. Had it up to 94mph before I got out of it. The boat did 102 with the current prop on it out in FL. I'll be up at the Oroville afterbay next tuesday doing some prop testing and setup tinkering to see what we can get out of her!
I would love to have a tunnel like one of these.

Fueler, is that liberator I see on the side of yours?
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:15 AM   #1004 (permalink)
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:21 AM   #1005 (permalink)
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I would love to have a tunnel like one of these.

Fueler, is that liberator I see on the side of yours?
Yes Sir! Just took delivery of it about a month ago.
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:27 AM   #1006 (permalink)
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Yes Sir! Just took delivery of it about a month ago.
True tunnel or does it have a pad like the Talon's? This is a 22-24 ft boat right?

Feel free to spill some knowledge if you have some time!
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Old 09-26-2018, 07:39 AM   #1007 (permalink)
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True tunnel or does it have a pad like the Talon's? This is a 22-24 ft boat right?

Feel free to spill some knowledge if you have some time!
Not a true tunnel. Its got a center pod like the Daytonas, Talons, etc. This Liberator is a 21 footer. Fairly light, the bare hull weighed ~1100lbs and the interior is pretty damn minimal.

Kind of uncharted territory with this new v8 though. There are very few out there, and probably only a very small few on small tunnels like this. Randy had a 400R on the back of a 21 Liberator and pulled a 110+mph, but those 400Rs are heavy mofos.
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Not a true tunnel. Its got a center pod like the Daytonas, Talons, etc. This Liberator is a 21 footer. Fairly light, the bare hull weighed ~1100lbs and the interior is pretty damn minimal.

Kind of uncharted territory with this new v8 though. There are very few out there, and probably only a very small few on small tunnels like this. Randy had a 400R on the back of a 21 Liberator and pulled a 110+mph, but those 400Rs are heavy mofos.
That's interesting.

What made you choose a single instead of twins? From what I read the twins give you a "little" more top speed, but really shine when it comes to getting out of the hole and acceleration.


Of course the downside is the fuel consumption. How do you think the single v8 compares?

Before I buy anything I need to get out on the local lakes and see what they are like, (to choppy for a tunnel) but in reaility buying a boat is 3 years out for me.
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Old 09-26-2018, 11:29 AM   #1009 (permalink)
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That's interesting.

What made you choose a single instead of twins? From what I read the twins give you a "little" more top speed, but really shine when it comes to getting out of the hole and acceleration.


Of course the downside is the fuel consumption. How do you think the single v8 compares?

Before I buy anything I need to get out on the local lakes and see what they are like, (to choppy for a tunnel) but in reality buying a boat is 3 years out for me.
twins on a 21' boat would really need to be the older merc 260/280. sure, that would be faster on the top end, but would not handle nearly as well as a powerful single. I was originally interested in a 20.4 Stoker, but all the negative things with the 3L merc hanging off the back steered me away from those.

I live 10min from the ramps on the Delta and the majority of the time we go out its my wife and I running from watering hole to watering hole. This boat is a blast in the backwaters. The main channel where big cruisers are lumbering around is challenging in a low freeboard tunnel...lol. This boat will fly across the top of light wind chop like its not even there.

I guess my point is for what we are going to use this for, a bigger twin wasnt the answer. Many of the boats out here that I run around with are in the 26-30' range. Mostly with twin 300xs power. 28' Skaters are popular out here. Those guys can smash up the San Joaquin main channel in much better speeds than I can. Several even venture out into the SF Bay and out under the Golden Gate.

edit: fuel consumption...i dont have enough time in this to really tell, but this is a 4.6L v8. it gets thirsty if you are bombing around at 80mph.
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its that time of year again! I just picked up a new toy in preparation, Chaparral 230 Suncoast. Test drove it with a Yamaha 200 but having a Yamaha 250 VMax put on it before I pick it up.



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Texans do everything BIG so I assume you meant twins??
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That seems like an odd boat to have an outboard on.
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That seems like an odd boat to have an outboard on.
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That seems like an odd boat to have an outboard on.
market is heading that way, especially in salt water
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its that time of year again! I just picked up a new toy in preparation, Chaparral 230 Suncoast. Test drove it with a Yamaha 200 but having a Yamaha 250 VMax put on it before I pick it up.



good choice on the upgrade to the 250, you would not have been happy with the 200, especially once you get all your gear, crap and friends on board. The 200 4 cylinder is a good motor, but just don't ask too much from it
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That seems like an odd boat to have an outboard on.
Yep and it is exactly what I was looking for after my last deck boat had an I/O.
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I guess my point is for what we are going to use this for, a bigger twin wasnt the answer. Many of the boats out here that I run around with are in the 26-30' range. Mostly with twin 300xs power. 28' Skaters are popular out here. Those guys can smash up the San Joaquin main channel in much better speeds than I can. Several even venture out into the SF Bay and out under the Golden Gate.
Back in the early 90's my buddy had a GF that lived in SF, near Haight and Oak, and one time we did a pub crawl on our MTB's, and eventually ended up in Tiberon at one of those bay-side restaurants, the four of us (her roommate joined us), were sitting there eating fresh shellfish, and drinking some white wine (back before CA chardonnay got all fruity), listening to a 49'rs game on the patio speakers, and this dude all-by-his fucking-self, pulls up to the dock in a 40'+ Cigarette with a big-ass turbine engine. Dude pulled up, the wait staff ran down to tie him off, and he got a table, even though there was a line out front. Dude didn't leave alone, , and of course he made that turbine spit some fire before he left the dock and hammered it.

I'll never forget that day.
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Back in the early 90's my buddy had a GF that lived in SF, near Haight and Oak, and one time we did a pub crawl on our MTB's, and eventually ended up in Tiberon at one of those bay-side restaurants, the four of us (her roommate joined us), were sitting there eating fresh shellfish, and drinking some white wine (back before CA chardonnay got all fruity), listening to a 49'rs game on the patio speakers, and this dude all-by-his fucking-self, pulls up to the dock in a 40'+ Cigarette with a big-ass turbine engine. Dude pulled up, the wait staff ran down to tie him off, and he got a table, even though there was a line out front. Dude didn't leave alone, , and of course he made that turbine spit some fire before he left the dock and hammered it.

I'll never forget that day.
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Back in the early 90's my buddy had a GF that lived in SF, near Haight and Oak, and one time we did a pub crawl on our MTB's, and eventually ended up in Tiberon at one of those bay-side restaurants, the four of us (her roommate joined us), were sitting there eating fresh shellfish, and drinking some white wine (back before CA chardonnay got all fruity), listening to a 49'rs game on the patio speakers, and this dude all-by-his fucking-self, pulls up to the dock in a 40'+ Cigarette with a big-ass turbine engine. Dude pulled up, the wait staff ran down to tie him off, and he got a table, even though there was a line out front. Dude didn't leave alone, , and of course he made that turbine spit some fire before he left the dock and hammered it.

I'll never forget that day.
Sounds like Sam's in Tiburon. Was just there a couple weeks ago in a insanely fast 37 Talon. I dont think Ive been that fast on land. Maybe one of the coolest rides Ive been in.
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I gotta ask, why twin 40s instead of a larger single motor?
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I gotta ask, why twin 40s instead of a larger single motor?
I think 40 is the largest. those are shallow water motors.

why twins? why not
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I gotta ask, why twin 40s instead of a larger single motor?
They are the biggest surface drive/mud motors you can get.
Well lied there is a 75horse surface drive but I wasn’t interested in owning them.
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I think 40 is the largest. those are shallow water motors.

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Well lied there is a 75horse surface drive but I wasn’t interested in owning them.
Gotchya. Those are pretty cool
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