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Old 12-15-2015, 06:58 AM   #26 (permalink)
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What are you doing for engine mounts? Scoutco LLC has weld in mounts that index off the stock ones makes intall way easier as you don't have to mock up the motor.
Anyting scout and scoutco both have mounts. Anything scouts mount position against bump stop and don't need a jig. They also use stock dampeners .
I probably would not finish weld either one without putting motor in to check regardless of what they say.
I have ground off too many welds over the years..
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Anyting scout and scoutco both have mounts. Anything scouts mount position against bump stop and don't need a jig. They also use stock dampeners .
I probably would not finish weld either one without putting motor in to check regardless of what they say.
I have ground off too many welds over the years..
Anyone ever compared the two side by side? I'm curious who makes the better product.
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Anyone ever compared the two side by side? I'm curious who makes the better product.
Looking at the pics for the two;

The AS mounts look stout, with lots of weld surface and support, I also like that they use a GM style motor mount which would have been designed for the use and easily obtainable replacements.

The Scoutco mounts are nice and clean, and with their available jig, look super quick and easy to install (checked out their video, nice). Nice job on them. Plus they are cheaper.

Just from pictures hard to say which one is "better", but if I had to chose right now I'd probably go with the Scoutco ones for the price point, the stupid simple jig, and the clean look.


My web-wheeler option. But been thinking more and more about some sort of LS motor, and if I can find a good donor for a non-stupid price (everyone seems to think a 200K mile motor is worth 2-grand)..... quick in simple appeals to me right now.
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Anyting scout and scoutco both have mounts. Anything scouts mount position against bump stop and don't need a jig. They also use stock dampeners .
I probably would not finish weld either one without putting motor in to check regardless of what they say.
I have ground off too many welds over the years..
The Scoutco ones are $50 cheaper than anything scout ones, the jig is free if returned and actually works! As far as the damper you will notice no difference for the stock one vs the poly bushing one. The LS runs smooth enough as is.

For the Anything scout price, you can buy universal LS mounts @ $100 a pair from speedway motors and mock them up for less than the $225 ones. If you going to mock it up why pay someone the extra $125 for the anything scouts ones. The Scout cost are $75 more than the universals but you don't have to mock it up. And still $50 cheaper than the Anything ones. Yes you can tack them install motor check then weld up. But they locate right were they need to be saves ALOT of time. So I would save the time and $50.







I have held the Scoutco ones and they are decently built. I have only just seen the anything scout ones in pictures. Seems beefier, but speedy.
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Also some of the other parts on the Anything Scout LS page are expensive and not needed the oil pressure adapter is $31. When all you do is drill and tap the oil cooler block off plate which that adapter replaces anyway. Or just tap the stock oil sender for a Gen III or tee into the stock oil sender for a Gen IV motor.

Not to mention anything scout wants $145 for a modified the shift gate or the shiftier I did mine in about 10min. Scoutco has a gate $25 if your to lazy to mod one.

And they sell what looks like a Cablex box (speedo adapter box) for $350! $50 more just to repackage it.

I am all about making money, but some things are just ridiculous. I like saving it even better.

Just giving you cheaper options.
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Old 12-16-2015, 07:16 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I agree , lots of that stuff is pricey, but I would rather pay $20 for some of the little stuff than run around and mess with making it.
Unfortunately since I had a 4 speed I got bent over for complete stock auto linkage plus 4l60e adapter stuff...
I don't have a tig so looking for a direct bolt in radiator with shroud and fan. Not paying $6-700 either....
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Op, I'll reply to your pm on here. The second scout I converted I used the same champion chevelle radiator but ordered it with an electric fan setup. It came with an aluminum shroud and dual fans. I welded four threaded tabs to the core support and the radiator bolts in.
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Old 12-16-2015, 01:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Very nice!
I just ordered the radiator, a Volvo fan and a 16x23 aluminum cookie sheet for the shroud. Should be into it about $200 total!
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You wouldn't happen to have the radiator hose numbers you used would you?
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Old 12-16-2015, 03:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I don't. I wandered around the back room at Napa, found some hoses that were too long but had the bends I wanted and cut them down.
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Old 12-18-2015, 12:44 PM   #36 (permalink)
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trans is mint!! Going to add a new boost valve for a little more pressure at wot and put in a vette servo crisp up the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. Had to put shaft in to match np241c anyhow... It was 2 wd trans....
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Old 01-12-2016, 05:13 PM   #37 (permalink)
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motor mounts tacked in and drive line in position.
Anything scout mounts beefy!





trans mount is nice too, I am going to splice in a radius to improve clearance for 3" exhaust pipe to pass.





headers clear well







can't clock the transfer case so as it sets its 3" below frame rail

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Looks good! What headers are those?
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Old 01-13-2016, 01:21 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Looks good! What headers are those?
LS2/LS3/LS7/L92/LS9, LS1/LS6 SWAP HEADERS, GM Non Turbo Headers, XS Power Inc.
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Are you going to use the oil cooler lines or delete them?
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Deleting them
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would the anything scout crossmember allow for a flat (clocked) mounted np205? also how much does your tcase extend below frame?

great build

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The transfer case drops below the frame about 3 inches. I plan to put a small skid plate to protect it. The NP 205 is far too big to work with this cross member.
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This is the motor in its final resting place. I installed the anything scout transfer case linkage system. I had to switch from four speed to automatic. It was an easy install and function smoothly.
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Anyone ever compared the two side by side? I'm curious who makes the better product.
I ordered the scoutco ones and returned them. Wasn't sold on the design and the jig did not line up the mount flush to contact points on frame. Anything scout was much meatier and is easily aligned with no jig at all the to the bumpstops. It seems like the motor could be closer to the firewall but that might screw up the shifter levers coming through the tunnel cover.
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Since I only use the truck in he summer( not even sure where the hard top is anymore) I ripped out all the AC stuff...compressor, condenser, interior under dash vent and controller...
Does this stuff have any value or should I dumpster it?
It all worked 15 years ago last time I turned it on....
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Since I only use the truck in he summer( not even sure where the hard top is anymore) I ripped out all the AC stuff...compressor, condenser, interior under dash vent and controller...
Does this stuff have any value or should I dumpster it?
It all worked 15 years ago last time I turned it on....
I sold all of mine. The buyer was pretty happy to get it.

Depending on where you are, it might take longer to sell than somewhere else.
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What did you get for it?
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AC stuff out, computers going inside under dash, harness and headers on, pieces sent to powder coat...
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Everything is in, off to exhaust tomorrow. Hope to be doing some road tuning iand fine-tune adjustment of the transmission on Monday.
I recommend the anything scout conversion components. It all seems pricey but the time it saves is worth it. Just pull the trigger on the whole kit and save yourself a lot of time and headache .
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