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Brandon 02-03-2005 12:22 PM

My official Scout 80 build up thread..
 
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Figured I'd get one goin since I got posts scattered all over for my project :grinpimp:

No it isn't a Scout two but my son is Scout #1 so this must be Scout #2 ;)

1963 International Harverster Scout 80

This won't be an overnight project but it won't be a 15 year one either.

http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com...8284.sized.jpg

http://whiteknucklemotorsports.net/gallery/Scout80

Some interesting stuff..

- the body width is the exact same as my toyota - 66"
- length is approximately a foot shorter, actually as much as two depending on how I build the bumpers and my truck was shortened A LOT - when I took off the bed
- It is a 63, not too interesting till ya hear my jeep was a 53. Our bug is a 73, my truck is an 83, and my ZJ is a... 93 ;)

original specs
0 to 60 mph in 20.1 sec
Standing quarter mile in 21.7mph @ 62mph
Top speed 78.3

This is a field test done on a 1961 scout in 1961 152ci 4 cyl 3spd manual, 6.50*15 tiers and 4.27 diff ratio


Here is the quick run down of what I plan to do with it..

Engine/Cooling/Exhaust/Fuel System - HO 5.0 w/Northern aluminum radiator and spal electric fan, modified HO headers, mustang in-tank fuel pump in the toy EFI tank Engine has Saginaw steering pump, 180 amp 3G alternator, BBK air intake kit, FlowKooler hi-flow water pump, stainless rad hoses, Competition Cams Timing set, ARP bolts and studs, etc..
Drivetrain/Clutch - C6 auto and ?? tranny
Suspension - front: wagoneer 44044 springs and 9012's, rear: wagonner springs and 5012's
Axles/Brakes - Front HP HD 44 w/6 lug outers and arb, Rear disk (with ebrake calipers) 35 spline moser shafted HD D60 w?arb and 4.88 gears in both.
Interior - stock dash! Rear fold n tumble seat and original front low back seats..
Steering - hi-steer with GM stuff and inside the frame rail sag box.
Wheels/Tires - 15x10" mags with 37" MTR's.


I pulled the rear axle from my "donor" rig last night and slid it under the scout. Hoping to get the rest of the drivetrain under it this weekend, I'll post pics!

Here is the tires but they don't quite fit.. yet..

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/mo...8966.sized.jpg

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/mo...8969.sized.jpg

Here is the 35 spline moser shafted disk rear 60, gotta fab up mounts etc this weekend
http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...rear.sized.jpg

Picture shiny 5.0 here..

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...veoh.sized.jpg

not sure what color I am going to paint it yet but I figure I'll do the fabbin/cuttin/welding first.

Here is the "trailer" which was a donor rig that I got the low back seats, etc from.


http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/ol...iler.sized.jpg

Buckshot33 02-03-2005 03:01 PM

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/ol...iler.sized.jpg Dammit! I hate you. I've been saving one of my scout tubs for that exact same thing, I just don't have to room to do it right now.

Brandon 02-03-2005 03:33 PM

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I'd like to go with a pintle but there is a nice A frame style complete trailer setup at the local trailer store for a whoppin $20 so I will do that for now just to get it going. I want to modify that top to keep it on there to, if I can find another full top for the rig..

Brandon 02-04-2005 10:16 AM

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trying to squeeze an hour in every night but sometimes moving large parts by yourself take a a while :rolleyes:

Got the trailer out of the back yard (wife was about to disown me) and got the rear of the scout off of jack stands. My weekend goal is to drop in the engine, tranny, transfer case, and front axle. Nothing will be really "mounted" but I hope to get it in place so I can start fabbing hangers and mounts etc.

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...9067.sized.jpg

I need to go buy some hangers and perches, stopped by S&H here in town and all I can say is R I P O F F

I will never go back there, they were OVER twice the price of even 4wheel parts! I like to help the little guy but that's plain nuts..

MochaMike 02-04-2005 06:52 PM

Brandon,
You can fab up some perches using 1/4" 2x4" box or get them all from Parts Mike:

http://www.partsmikeparts.com/spring_hanger.jpg

http://www.partsmikeparts.com/spring_pads.jpg

Click on Pix for links. :grinpimp:

wes8517 02-04-2005 07:06 PM

are you goin to paint anything before putting it in? just wondering, thought it would be easy to do while its out and would look better when in, just personal preference

wes

Brandon 02-04-2005 07:09 PM

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I was, then I figured if I painted it then I cut and welded to make things fit I'd have to paint it again anyway so the plan is to mock it all up, remove the stuff and strip it down, paint and put it back together.

Mike, those are the YJ hangers straight from the jeep dealer - I have used them in past projects, and I'll probably use them again.

ihojeff 02-04-2005 08:55 PM

Glad to see that Scout finally get some attention. Been at least 7 years that I can remember. Think you'll have it done in time for the Tulare show?(not sure if you plan on attending).

Jeff
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The Cliff Condominiums Pattaya

Buckshot33 02-05-2005 12:19 AM

Wes: lol, my preference too. I've seen some pics on here of guys working on trucks that look like they just came out of the 'sippi hole. I cant work like that. (not you brandon, keep up the good work man!)

Jeff: When is the tulare show?

ihojeff 02-05-2005 08:39 AM

I can definetely remember it being in my old shop up in Auburn back in 97' when Hal had brought it over. Thats why its nice to see it finally get the attention it deserves.

Buckshot - Tulare show is April 15-17.
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YourBettina

Brandon 02-05-2005 09:18 AM

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this is my truck now, and my latest paint job. Mix em together and the scout will be better :)

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/en..._102.sized.jpg

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/os..._018.sized.jpg

Still can't decide what color but I'm thinking one of the old school colors like the light green or metallic blue - or the new mustang blue. It's gonna stand out one way or another :)

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/Sc...ional_pg01.jpg
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Scout8hundred 02-05-2005 07:21 PM

Is that a Toyota with a 5.0?

I have a Toyota with a blown 22re and would love to do that.

How is it power wise and how labor/money intensive was the swap?

you can PM if you want to avoid a hijack.

Brandon 02-05-2005 08:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Scout8hundred
Is that a Toyota with a 5.0?

I have a Toyota with a blown 22re and would love to do that.

How is it power wise and how labor/money intensive was the swap?

you can PM if you want to avoid a hijack.


Power wise it's silly, I can tap it in third gear and get sideways with a spool and 37's. I love the power, I could never drive a 4 banger again.. Labor - well depends on how far you take it. I did all the axles etc at the same time. Little jobs turn big..

Money wise it wasn't that bad because I did a lot of trading, bought a car with the motor and parted it out etc..

If ya got any specifics after reading that link let me know..

Brandon 02-05-2005 10:07 PM

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well I didn't exactly get too far :rolleyes:

42 year old bolts can be stubborn.. All I did was get the front clip/fenders off. Spent some time on the "donor vehicle" undoing all the wires/vacuum etc and unbolting stuff to get it ready to pull but never pulled it.

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...9089.sized.jpg

Brandon 04-05-2005 11:57 AM

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haven't been able to touch the thing due to work/family and the need for a pay raise (studying to get my engineering license). I take the test in two weeks then I get to play. Attempted to drop the motor in for a test fit real quick (hun, gotta take out the trash) but I gotta readjust the lift to get it a bit higher. Rolled the front HD HP 44 under and rear Disk 35 spline D60 under the rear but need to do mounts etc for the suspension and move the perches on the axles still. Should be more progress soon..

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc..._031.sized.jpg

Shadow man 04-05-2005 12:04 PM

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Brandon, It does look like you have a project there. :) Is that a NON I-H engine going in there? :D

Brandon 04-05-2005 12:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow man
Brandon, It does look like you have a project there. :) Is that a NON I-H engine going in there? :D


I got an idea from a magazine not too long ago - I picked up a pair of IH valve covers and I am going to get some Steel ford valve covers, cut out the "international" and weld it into the ford valve covers. I'll remove the Ford tag on the upper intake and get something with an IH on it in there so someone that was clueless would think it is a new Multiport Injected Scout engine ;)

It's a project, but this time other than the paint and some misc. hangers etc I got all the parts :)

I do plan on swapping out the spool and lock right for arb's though..

Shadow man 04-05-2005 01:16 PM

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Yea, that valve cover trick I'm positive will get some of them. :D An example is my rig. You would be surprised how many people see my engine and then ask me what size "IH" engine it is. :shaking: I am sure it will be a great runner when you get it done.

Brandon 05-05-2005 03:43 PM

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well this is slow going as you can tell ;)

finally got the last door and the last fender off. Only panel left (got the dash, pedals, etc etc out) is the tailgate. I got one hinge off but the other isn't budging like every other bolt on this thing so I'll probably have to drill them out. Looks Like I'll be doing paint before engine, just hope I don't have to cut/weld much after she's purty - picture this on my scout :cool:

http://popularhotrodding.com/feature..._ford_15_z.jpg

new Mach 1 azure blue

Bindernut 05-05-2005 08:02 PM

Hey Brandon, how did the PE exam go for ya?

Civil, mechanical, electrical, for which one did you sit?

Brandon 05-05-2005 08:44 PM

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civil PE, 4th time over 5 years :(

I'm a transportation engineer with caltrans so I took the transportation part which is probably a dumb thing to do, so many possibilities and a wide range of questions. I felt I did pretty good but I have learned not to get my hopes too high..

Are you an SE? I think your link is intranet or something - no worky..

Bindernut 05-05-2005 09:04 PM

Thanks. The link changed. I fixed it now.

I'm a CE with emphasis in structures, but am finishing my graduate degree in structural engineering and structural mechanics at UC Davis right now.

Tech content: Nice Scout.

Brandon 05-07-2005 11:46 PM

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well I got some work done today, still taking it apart but gettin there. More bolts are being removed with a grinder than a socket!

Check out this scary wiring. Obviously shorted in the past, used MASKING TAPE to connect wire that looks like it is part of an extension cord (in home) that was taken apart for makeshift wire - BOOOOTAAAY!

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...9482.sized.jpg

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Brandon 05-07-2005 11:51 PM

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cab is pretty much gutted, and nearly every single bolt is gone - gotta remove the tanks and start cleanin and preppin fo PAINT!

SO..

what's the best way to paint a frame? I need to weld up my mounts first then I'll pull the body and do the frame up right

This is gonna be fun - notice the broken off bolts..
http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...k/DSC09489.jpg

Gettin there.. hmm what to do with the interior.. choices choices..

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...k/DSC09494.jpg

still dirty but less crap
http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...k/DSC09495.jpg

http://rcrc4x4.com/gallery/albums/sc...k/DSC09496.jpg

MochaMike 05-08-2005 12:29 AM

How Purdy do you want the frame?

POR is a good option.

I gotta laugh at the bolts.
Your Scout is identical to all the other 80s out there....


For the hinge bolts, take the fenders off, cut out the little tabs that hold the metal plates that the bolts attach to.
Fab some new tabs & either tap them or weld some bolts to them.


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