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Old 07-27-2008, 03:41 PM   #176 (permalink)
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Hmm, that looks like a familiar engine . Good luck!
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:28 PM   #177 (permalink)
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Ok a crappy cut and paste, and I'm not an 80/800 expert. Can he mount a Scout II box to the outside of the frame? What issues will there be? He has a narrowed 60 up front.
I did it, tried to locate on the frame in relation to the SII d44. Ended up being right across from the crossmember. If you cut that out and plate there, you will be ok, but if not you will need to cut holes where the bolts locate, then make a panel with nuts welded on the back to weld to the frame, then you and bolt the box on.



I was using the stock column that I shortened, along with some heavy wall tube and small u-joints off some other IH truck.

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Old 07-27-2008, 04:56 PM   #178 (permalink)
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Thanks Urban Wheeler, I was looking at that cross member and came up with that same thing . Now if I could find one of those boxes!
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I used IFS steering box from a 95 k2500 Chevy mounts inside the frame and used a drop pitman arm for late 70s waggy to hook up the draglink and high steer. mounting inside frame rail lined straight up with steering column. I used 87 gm steering column, made mating up the box and column easy
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:42 PM   #180 (permalink)
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I used IFS steering box from a 95 k2500 Chevy mounts inside the frame and used a drop pitman arm for late 70s waggy to hook up the draglink and high steer. mounting inside frame rail lined straight up with steering column. I used 87 gm steering column, made mating up the box and column easy
Thanks guidolyons, I,m not sure if that would work for me, the axle is way forward and a cross member would be in the way.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:19 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Here's what I did for my steering. It's a 1972 Ford F250 2WD box I believe. I have since added some guessets (would be seen in the 3rd picture).








I'll eventually paint the front of the box red so it blends in more.
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:36 PM   #182 (permalink)
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you'd be surprised, it will fit forward of the crossmember. mine tucked in under the grill, no cutting. Sorry, can't post pics right now. I'll post some later.
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you'd be surprised, it will fit forward of the crossmember. mine tucked in under the grill, no cutting. Sorry, can't post pics right now. I'll post some later.
Thanks can't wait to see them.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:01 AM   #184 (permalink)
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Thanks justinl , that looks massive,and strong.
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I can idle around 700rpm and still turn the wheels with a finger. I moved my axle forward and tried to keep everything real low, but if you kept the axle around the stock location you can probably get away with out cutting away the body like I did. Your build is looking good!
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Old 07-28-2008, 01:50 PM   #186 (permalink)
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WarPony, here's some pics of mine. I did push my front axle forward about 3" also. 1965 S80, killed 2 birds with one stone, got high steer and power steering.

I used GM steering column from '87 Chevy, PS box from a '95 K2500 (IFS), PS pump and new lines from auto parts store. The rag joint on the stock steering column matched the splines on the PS box. Should work fine, replacement donut is only $8, or I can always upgrade to a ujoint later if I want. The stock pitman arm won't work since it has the funky tierod end built in for the IFS centerlink, and it was too short to match the length of the Ballistic Fab Highsteer arms I used. Superlift drop pitman arm for a late 70's wagoneer clears the crossmember, and matches the length of the high steer arms better.

Checking for fit and alignment with the steering column.
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I cut off the original steering box mount and sleeved and reenforced the frame
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Tucks in right under the grill

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From the bottom, pitman arm clears the frame and crossmember
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You could probably move it forward a few more inches and still clear the grill if you need to, but judging from how you've cut the body up, I think you can figure out how to make it fit

Few more of the reinforcement of the frame, and clearance behind the grill.
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The nuts welded on are just spacers so the body of the PS box will clear the frame. I reused the stock bolts that thread into the mounting ears on the box.
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Oh yeah, the PS works good, too well, at least the 50' I've driven it so far, on and off the trailer.
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Thanks guidolyons, Nice work. It looks like you extended the fram a bit , I won't Be able to do that cause of the stuff I have in the way forward of that cross member, so I keep coming back to the scout II box for my ap. But lets get some more pics of your rig!
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:28 PM   #190 (permalink)
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:40 PM   #191 (permalink)
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Well after removing some items that will be relocated, the initial fit is good, that is the engine will go in.
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I need to find an affordable NPR or fritolay truck...
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that's cute
I know its not pretty, like your Ford motor, thats a good looking engine. but I also think a motor bellowing out black smoke under full fuel is a good look too not a good look for your motor. just a different kind of look.
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I need to find an affordable NPR or fritolay truck...
They are out there, don't give up, and remember you can get some back in scrap.
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Well I'm waiting for my engine adapter, so I worked on the back bumper. Some pics, the corners are left open for steps or jack points. Droped in the center for tailgate.
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lookin good dan.....................where's the hydro's



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Looking sweet...just hope you are planning on doing something different with that rear brake line.
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Looking good, but please angle the sides of those bumpers!
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Looking sweet...just hope you are planning on doing something different with that rear brake line.
Thats not a brake line, thats a hook point to pull out jeeps.
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