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Old 04-22-2008, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Went up to the bosses junkyard yesterday afternoon. I put the truck in 4lo and 1st gear so I could creep around the yard looking for items so I can start making bio-fuel soon. As soon as I tapped on the gas I heard "ka-ting" . I couldn't fawking believe it. So I drove the truck back to the shop and in goes the 2 Dana 60's that have taking up space for so long. No way I'm going to find Scout axles around here .

Today was spent taking the rear axles out and inspecting the brakes. Good shoes and hardware, but 1 bearing housing was bent. After 1 new bearing and 2 new seals all looks well so far. Taking it to the welder guy tomorrow morning to have new spring pads welded in. Then off to the autoparts store for brake lines. I've been told to go with Chevy brake lines, so I'm guessing 1 tons with adapters. Any advice for the rear?

Once that is all done, it's off to the front axle.
Looks like I'll need to: Drill and tap the 2 bolt holes in the right side due to excessive rust, adapt brake lines, and use some sort of cross over linkage. I need to call a few vendors about this. Any advice for the front?

I hope to have all of this done in a day or two...or maybe 3

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Old 04-22-2008, 10:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You need to post some pictures, not sure why your grinding the u-bolt perch, I mean did it not work on the donner truck?
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Old 04-23-2008, 08:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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GM axles? The D60 spring perch is wider then the Scout setup. The rear is easy and sounds like you have that under control. But on the front your about 1/2" wider on each side then the stock axle. This means you need to relocate the spring hangers. Since your having to cut and weld, might as well think about a reverse shackle setup. If your using the stock springs you will need to make some spacers as the springs on D60 are wider then the scouts, and this will take up the space so the u-bolts hold the springs tight. Then there is the steering arms, you will need to go high steer as the stock 60 setup is push pull vs cross over like the Scouts. The good news its not hard, just need money for the the arms. BTF has some nice arms, I'm running WFO arms. There is OTT and bazillion other out there all with pros and cons. I like these too. http://www.northwestfab.com/dana60steeringarm.html I running TRE's vs Heim joints as I drive mine on the street. The oil pan may cause issues too. Your going to need a waggy pitman arm or something like it as the Scouts are a mile long. To keep the geometry normally you need a shorter arm.
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...I hope to have all of this done in a day or two...or maybe 3

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Nothing like setting realistic goals.....
I read right by that thinking, maybe if all the parts were lay out on the floor and you have nothing else in life taking up time. But once I got to "welder guy" I knew he did not know what all was involved.

As for the brakes I would use adapters to convert to -3an hose ends and be done with it. http://www.amstreetrod.com/BrakeSystem.php4 This way the lines are cheap.
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The rear axle is done except for 1 lock nut and the perches will be welded on tomorrow. Looks like that lock nut will have to be ordered online. The front will be ready tomorrow. I could care less about the 1/2" of spring width difference. Guess I'd better go searching for brake lines soon. Anyone have the part# handy. Looks I'll have to go aftermarket and get the longer lines since this truck is going SOA with 4" springs.
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thats going to be a pretty tall rig with an SOA and 4 in springs. what tire size are you running?
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thats going to be a pretty tall rig with an SOA and 4 in springs. what tire size are you running?
I don't have the tires yet, but I know someone with 17" steelies with Toyo Terragrapplers which would get the truck rolling. I know it's gonna be too tall, I'd like to have stock Scout springs son as money allows.
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It's not like were doggin you..... ok a little bit. I posted a link to get your brake parts, not like we have a clue as to what been taken up space, maybe these are a pair IH 60's axles? Its like you've gone DAN on us Don't worry if your using 4" lift springs for a chevy as they will be 2" lift spings for the Scout
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It's not like were doggin you..... ok a little bit. I posted a link to get your brake parts, not like we have a clue as to what been taken up space, maybe these are a pair IH 60's axles? Its like you've gone DAN on us Don't worry if your using 4" lift springs for a chevy as they will be 2" lift spings for the Scout
Chevy axles and Scout Triangle springs. Springs are several years old and rode like a dump truck until I started removing leafs. I saw a post over at the BB where '74 Chevy 2wd brakes would work.

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Chevy axles ans Scout Triangle springs. Springs are several years old and rode like a dump truck until I started removing leafs. I saw a post over at the BB where '74 Chevy 2wd brakes would work.

Well Hell if you told us you had a 1974 axle, I could have told you 1974 brakes would fit.

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Well Hell if you told us you had a 1974 axle, I could have told you 1974 brakes would fit.
I have no clue what year the axle is. But I do know it 17 spline and I have 2 spare shafts for it. I'll upgrade with 30s after some time and a new locker.

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thats going to be a pretty tall rig with an SOA and 4 in springs. what tire size are you running?
This is what it'll look like with Dana 60's soa and 4" Scout lift springs on 40" boggers.



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One tons, shackle reversal, 38s with 4" chevy springs. It sits about right for me!

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For brake lines I used front brake lines for a 06 2500 cheby 4x4, they bolted right up, even to the stock scout hard line, no adapters at all. they come with banjos and seals allready installed on the line, they are long as hell to. I work at a chevy dealer so I got a better price than most at 20 bucks a piece.
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That's good to know, but what year did they go metric banjo 1980?


Rockauto list them at $23.79
Partsamerica $50.99

This is for the front left.
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For brake lines I used front brake lines for a 06 2500 cheby 4x4, they bolted right up, even to the stock scout hard line, no adapters at all. they come with banjos and seals allready installed on the line, they are long as hell to. I work at a chevy dealer so I got a better price than most at 20 bucks a piece.
That's surprising. I figured they'd be metric. I bought 2 lines for a '74 2wd chevy, if they don't fit, I'll return them. I'll check out the '06 2500 brake lines soon.
Most everything is ready to bolt up except for welding the perches on. I'm guessing the pinion angle should stay the same? I'm going to put the axles under the Scout this weekend and check things out. I'll make my steering linkage after the front axles goes in. Any suggestion for the driveshafts? I was thinking about either modding my old shafts to work with the 60s, or maying finding new yokes for the Dana 20 and having some spare shafts shortened. I should have enough spare crap to make it work either way.

I'm having a green eyed blonde taking up my time this week. She kisses better then the Scout ever could hope too.

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Weird...I'm pretty sure that '78+ GM went to a metric banjo fitting 10mm x 1.5

Pre '77 was 7/16-20 banjo

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front calipers are regular ol dana 60 calipers from napa.
rear I got a hold of a complete 14 bolt out of an 06 so stock rear disks with gm brake hoses.
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Getting ready to pull the rear axle. Pulled the Scout outside in 2wd.....hmmmm it didn't pull in 2wd before. Weird. The truck drove fine except for an odd noise that sounded like a r&p. Even in 4lo it work spin the rear tires without any issues. Weird. Pulled the driveshaft and inspected the rear gears. All looked normal. Put the cover back on and put some fluid back in and took it for another drive. No more noise without the rear driveshaft. Fawk, oh, well. It's still getting the Dana 60s. I hope it's not a Dana 20 issue.

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Hmmm..... 6 days and counting.
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Got to work on it for a few hours yesterday. Yanked the Dana 44 rear out and installed the 60. Bolted right in. Only thing I had to do was move the perches and transfer the T in the brake line from my 44 to the 60. Then the brakes lines bolted right in. My old driveshaft would have worked, but I decided to use a different on from when my Scout used to be SOA on the 44's. It's a bit longer.
Then I removed the front 44, but when I tried to add new spring retaining bolts, I realized my new ones would be too long. At 8pm, that brought me to a fast stopping point. I'll add pics tomorrow. It's all looking good and coming together quickly. I'll bet I only have 12 hours into this. Too bad my job keeps interferring

I also removed yet another leaf from the spring packs front and rear.

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Old 05-08-2008, 03:26 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The front 60 is in. Only needed to extend the hardlines about 4". The driveshaft bolted in . The hardest part was drilling and tapping the 2 housing bolt holes due to them being well rusted. They are 3/4 now, but the rear bolt suddenly became loose so I left it as is for now. I don't want to pull this axle back out.

Time to see what I want to do with the steering.

I also need to find srw front hubs. The front tires stick out just a bit

H1 wheels are in my future...someday.

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