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guidolyons 02-28-2009 10:22 PM

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Got the transmission & transfer case pulled and the wiring harness in the engine bay and HVAC removed. Luckily, there was just one big connector for all the sensors so I was able leave almost all of them still attached. Should have the engine pulled tomorrow.

Pulled the dash to get the rest of the wiring harness/ignition/instrument panel out. That took me longer than it will to pull the engine!

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war pony 03-01-2009 10:14 AM

Hey Guido, you may want to get the shock mounts off the ford before you get rid of it.

guidolyons 03-01-2009 10:30 AM

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Yep. Already in the plans to go on the Scout. Now I won't have to make them.

guidolyons 03-02-2009 07:44 PM

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Pulled the PSD

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war pony 03-03-2009 07:24 PM

hey Guido, Is the scout set for the new motor? Good to see you got it out.

guidolyons 03-08-2009 10:41 PM

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While I had everything apart, I figured I would replace the clutch. The PSD has a dual mass flywheel (it has springs in it) that is prone to failure and cracking the transmission. I don't know how much slop is supposed to be in a dual mass flywheel, but mine seemed like it had a lot f excessive play. I didn't want take a chance with it going bad, so I got a solid flywheel conversion clutch combo and replaced the clutch. I pulled some more wiring harness and then started in on the Scout. Now is the this is the worst part, I've got both trucks torn down and I have a huge pile of parts...

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ZF vs T90 :laughing:
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guidolyons 03-11-2009 09:13 PM

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First test fit went pretty well. :evil:

There will be some firewall adjustment, it needs to go back and down quite a bit more.

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guidolyons 03-18-2009 09:12 AM

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Well the front crosmember had to go, along with about 3" on each side of the transmission tunnel. It looks like a huge chop, but only about 3" wider on each side. Did another test fit:grinpimp:



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It doesn't look like a big change, but I got it down and back a few more inches. I used a large turnbuckle as a stabilizer/ tilt adjustment

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Valve covers peeking through the firewall

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Shifter lines up:D

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okkool77 03-18-2009 09:27 AM

All I have to say is HOLY SHIT, I honestly didn't believe that sucker would fit into a Scout. Keep up the pictures, I wanna see how this build works out...are you going to lengthen the frame at all?

war pony 03-18-2009 08:41 PM

looking good, that looked easy. keep up the good work :smokin:

chris fresh 03-18-2009 09:49 PM

what springs are you going to run up front? i've got an 05 with a 6.0 in it and that thing is way heavy up front.

98ZJ 03-19-2009 02:21 AM

Awesome! Keep the pics coming! Can't wait to see this thing move, you HAVE to get a video of it posted when it does. Do you have a rough ETA on this or no?

guidolyons 03-19-2009 07:21 AM

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warpony- Thanks for the motivation. It's not really *in* yet, I still have to mark the location for the motor mounts and build the new crossmember to tie the engine mounts together.

Chris- I've got Chevy 52's up front, so I think they are up to the task. I was going to take the overload spring off the bottom of the pack, but I might need to leave them in there :laughing: The front was a few inches too high anyway, so this *should* even it out. I have the a couple other spring packs and the springs from the F250 if I need to mix and match. The PSD is only a couple of hundred pounds more than a IH 345.

RIP Ted Ornas :(

I know it will be heavy up front, but I've seen several rigs with a big diesel up front and little to no weight in the back. If it does endos when I slam on the brakes, then I'll slap some tractor weights on the rear bumper :laughing:

I hope to get it driving in the next few months.
I'm moving in June/July, so I have to get it done by then, or at least mobile enough to get on the trailer.


Yes, there will be video :evil:

1wook 03-19-2009 07:52 AM

Moving right along. Make sure you have clearance for somethink larger than the stock pancaked down pipe.

guidolyons 03-19-2009 08:49 AM

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Yup that's in the works. Even if I wanted to (which I don't) I can't use the stock pancake downpipe anyway. My transfercase will be in the way. I'm ordering some 3" bends from summit and make my own downpipe.

Snoopy 03-19-2009 09:49 AM

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war pony 03-19-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by guidolyons (Post 9579703)
Yup that's in the works. Even if I wanted to (which I don't) I can't use the stock pancake downpipe anyway. My transfercase will be in the way. I'm ordering some 3" bends from summit and make my own downpipe.

Down pipes are so last year, all the cool kids are putting the turbo way in the back, I NEED MORE NOS

colorado_okie 03-21-2009 03:30 PM

Looks great Guido. Subscribed!

guidolyons 03-31-2009 11:16 AM

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Well, this is what I started with last weekend, I thought I might be able to re-use the stock F250 crossmember, but it was just too damn big and hung down too far. I finally cut, welded, and ground it into submission.

After a few more test fits and some more cutting and grinding, I got the motor mounts welded in and chopped the crossmember up.

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I still need to finish the crossmember, add a lip on the front edge, some gussets, and 2 more bolts on each side. The center has to be removeable for the PSD to fit between the frame rails, firewall, and for the oil pan to clear. Plus if I ever need to drop the oil pan it will be easy. I'm going to integrate a oil pan skid off the back of the crossmember also.

New Griffin radiator :grinpimp: 27.5" x 19" x 2 core (2x1.25") solid 3" thick radiator. It fits behind the grille nice :D It's a little shorter than the stock F250 rad, but it's thicker and weighs about 2x as much. Should cool it nicely.
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I got some 3" U bends and started working on the new turbo down pipe to get it across the back of the engine and down the driverside. Should flow better than the stock smashed flat pancake down pipe.

I chopped out the last remaining bits of the stock crossmember, it looks like I will keep the PS box in the inside of the frame rail, but I will have to rework the mounting slightly. With the stock crossmember gone, I can rotate it down for a better angle to clear the PSD PS pump and a flatter pitman arm angle.

montanatrout 03-31-2009 02:14 PM

i always thought this would be a cool swap. good luck with it!

AirZuk 03-31-2009 02:59 PM

Man this is awesome.. Keep up the good work

war pony 03-31-2009 05:43 PM

Hey Guido, Looking good. Is it an elision, or are you favoring the pass. side a bit?

guidolyons 03-31-2009 08:07 PM

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Nope, not an illusion, it's about 2" offset to the passenger side to clear the steering column, and Scout 80s the transmission tunnel is offset a few inches to the passenger side, too. It was offset to the passenger side in the F250 also, to clear the front diff.

JetFxr 03-31-2009 10:00 PM

Sub, I have a hell of a time keep a 7.3 cool in travelette and I have a wider frame for the radiator to ride in. I am impressed with your build/hide a ford:flipoff2:

guidolyons 03-31-2009 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JetFxr (Post 9636737)
Sub, I have a hell of a time keep a 7.3 cool in travelette and I have a wider frame for the radiator to ride in. I am impressed with your build/hide a ford:flipoff2:

Nice Travelette :smokin: 7.3L N/A What fan/rad combo are you running? Fan shroud?

I am going to try the stock mechanical fan w/ fan shroud first and see how it does. I also have a Taurus fan if I need it. It seems like most of the F250 rad was blocked by the front bumper :confused:

Hide a ford :laughing:

it says International on the valve covers:flipoff2:


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