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Old 12-28-2009, 02:00 PM   #51 (permalink)
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x2,almost spit my morning coffee out when i saw it.i like the build also,but that z bar should be on "there i fixed it"
I will agree with you on that more than anyone here.

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Old 12-28-2009, 02:03 PM   #52 (permalink)
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"It's only temporary... unless it works!"-Red Green

I know that Z-bar is temporary, until you can get the axle swap and go hi-steer, but please for the love of god, don't drive that anywhere near a bus load of nuns. The tie rod looks like it's seen better days, too.

Other that that, it's looking better.

Engine crossmember looks like standard hot rod style from Speedway, etc.

I sleeved my PS box through the frame, too. I found a few more pics:
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After I took this pic, vvvv I also welded large washers over the sleeves to help spread the load over more of the frame.
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I chopped up the stock steering column bracket, added and extra piece of angle that ties into the pedal assembly and the firewall. On the engine side, it has a clamp at the fire wall and another u-bolt along the inner fender to clear the exhaust.

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Thanks for the pictures, they give me ideas for the future.
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I just got offered a 12 bolt or a 9" for free for the rear last night also.
Go with the 9.
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Here is a pic of the condition of my front 44. When i bought the scout it came with the front 44 and a shortened 60 for the rear.
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All of the parts are new on the Z bar. The other supports are not finished because I do not have a welder, and it gets welded as i can find people to weld for me. Any driving will be limited to streets only. I personally dont like Z bars, (even this one) but like i said before its all temporary until i put my 44 in. I just got offered a 12 bolt or a 9" for free for the rear last night also.
You already have a D44 rear, not worth swapping in a 12bolt. Maybe a built 9" but don't you have a D44 and D60 to swap in?? Do you have a complete D44 or is it just the housing you had a pic of?

If the D44 and D60 are even halfway assembled, get to swappin' and quit wasting time welding shock tabs on an axle you plan on swapping out. Now if they are in pieces in the corner and you're missing a bunch of parts...well that's a different story.

Keep on truckin' Jerm...this build does have potential. It only took Brandon 10 years to build/drive his
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Old 12-28-2009, 04:29 PM   #55 (permalink)
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looks good. except the Z bar
definitely moving quicker than mine.
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You already have a D44 rear, not worth swapping in a 12bolt. Maybe a built 9" but don't you have a D44 and D60 to swap in?? Do you have a complete D44 or is it just the housing you had a pic of?

If the D44 and D60 are even halfway assembled, get to swappin' and quit wasting time welding shock tabs on an axle you plan on swapping out. Now if they are in pieces in the corner and you're missing a bunch of parts...well that's a different story.
When i bought the scout it came with a shortened 60 for the rear, and a shortened 44 for the front, but are not assembled and are missing parts.
It will cost a lot of money to build those axles. Since then i bought a complete Front 44 that was just rebuilt and never ran for $175, but it is full width. So after being offered the 12 bolt and the 9, i have a lot of options to think about. I probably will run what ever of the 2 will closest match the width of the new front 44 (I really hope its the 9") and sell the others.

Keep on truckin' Jerm...this build does have potential. It only took Brandon 10 years to build/drive his
Thanks for the input, I hope it doesn't take as long as Brandon's but your never know.
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looks good. except the Z bar
definitely moving quicker than mine.
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I'm reclaiming the garage so I can build under cover. Soon as I get done(hopefully tomorrow) i'll roll it in and get flying. The guy that is supposed to have my motor isn't responding anymore. I may have to put it back up for trade.
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Swung by your hood today to get a lok at the scout in person. Pretty slick. So if you noticed a white expedition with a pirate sticker in the back, it was just a stalker, not a thief
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Swung by your hood today to get a lok at the scout in person. Pretty slick. So if you noticed a white expedition with a pirate sticker in the back, it was just a stalker, not a thief
I swung by yesterday
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LOL, i have a local fan club. I can drive it over if either of you want a better look at it. I can bring it by if either of you want to look at it. I went and played a little in the mud last night. Nothing crazy, just wanted to stretch its legs a little.

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You leave that muddy heap in your own driveway, I just sprayed mine off this evening!
Tell you what, pretty soon i'm gonna need some muscle getting the body off the frame......i'll call you then to come "show it off"
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Well its been long enough, time for an update. Things are not moving as fast as I would like but I am making progress. I picked up a set of Mickey Thompson Valve covers. I know they are everywhere but I actually was able to find a pair of NOS that had never been installed. I picked them up off craigslist for $40. I made it over to Brandon's to have him weld a plate for the power steering box, and a brace for the power steering box. Everything turned out great, thanks again Brandon! Other than that, I have been replacing as many rusted bolts as possible, and working on some wiring issues. I also picked up an Optima Yellow Top.
I finally made it over to the dump to weigh my scout. As it sits, it is at 3660lb.

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Sweet..... Just broke my rear driveline.
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Does anyone know a good driveline shop in or around Sac? My buddy came by today and gave me a driveline from a Ram Charger but it needs to be shortened by an inch or so. I am hoping to find someone who can give me a good deal since i am not currently working.

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wow, how did you do that??

Bud at AAA driveline out on Sunrise, or sac driveline in west sac..

They just retube it, same shaft should be fine
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I wish I could say it happened wheeling but sadly it broke in my driveway.
I put it in neutral and started it up to warm it up. Well even though it was in neutral the transmission was still engaged some how and when I started it. It tried to crawl up the driveway so i slammed on the brakes, and killed the motor. The scout only moved maybe 6 inches but that's all it took to twist the rear driveline. I had to be on its way out already, I am just lucky it happened in my driveway and not in some field far from home. This is the first time the transmission did that. Time for a rebuild

The new driveline I got is stronger than the one that broke, so I will probably have that one shortened by an inch.
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you could always drive home in 4 wheel drive

Done that a few times.. but from the trail not the driveway muhahaha
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Yeah, its not a proud moment for my scout....

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ooof...that sucks.

I like the connecting rod for a clamp on the steering box brace
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What kind of speeds are you doing in the scout? If you're really tight for money, you could always pick up a piece of tube with the same ID as the OD of the new shaft, chop the shaft, and weld the tube to the outside to extend it an inch. I'm sure it wouldn't be balanced well, but it'd probably save you some $$ till you can do it right.

OR, I bet if you ground the yokes out yourself before going to the shop they'd charge you less to re-tube it. Tell them the right length, hand them the yokes and shaft.
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ooof...that sucks.

I like the connecting rod for a clamp on the steering box brace
Thanks, it a a Chevy 350 rod and it fits like it was made for it.

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What kind of speeds are you doing in the scout? If you're really tight for money, you could always pick up a piece of tube with the same ID as the OD of the new shaft, chop the shaft, and weld the tube to the outside to extend it an inch. I'm sure it wouldn't be balanced well, but it'd probably save you some $$ till you can do it right.

OR, I bet if you ground the yokes out yourself before going to the shop they'd charge you less to re-tube it. Tell them the right length, hand them the yokes and shaft.
I am going to be using the Scout as a daily driver, so i probably need something balanced, but that might be an option to get me by.

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Does anyone know a good driveline shop in or around Sac? My buddy came by today and gave me a driveline from a Ram Charger but it needs to be shortened by an inch or so. I am hoping to find someone who can give me a good deal since i am not currently working.
Can't get much easier than this. Cut the driveline an 1" back and then remove the part welded to the yoke and reweld. Take it to a shop and have them balance it. Before you start mark where the yoke goes so it's line up right. tools needed Chopsaw, 4.5" cutoff wheel and a welder.
I'm thinking a 12 pack of beer might just get you what you need too
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Can't get much easier than this. Cut the driveline an 1" back and then remove the part welded to the yoke and reweld. Take it to a shop and have them balance it. Before you start mark where the yoke goes so it's line up right. tools needed Chopsaw, 4.5" cutoff wheel and a welder.
I'm thinking a 12 pack of beer might just get you what you need too
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I just got a quote to shorten and balance for $50. I will know more later though.
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