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Old 04-08-2004, 07:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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E350 MC on YJ done

Like I said in the other thread, just shooting a quick writeup and some pics on what I did. SUPER simple.

First, take out the old pos. Pic of stock mc.

FAWK. WTF is wrong with this thing. I cant post pics. I just get the big white error page. working on it.
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damn LOP, that's one hell of a write up. you work on it all night?!?
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What year E350 m/c did you use? What kind of brake setup do you have on the axles?
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damn LOP, that's one hell of a write up. you work on it all night?!?
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What year E350 m/c did you use? What kind of brake setup do you have on the axles?
some of your answers are HERE...
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Interested in write up.. Got it working yet??
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Old 04-08-2004, 12:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Sorry, I could'nt post shit earlier. Dunno why ??? Sun spots mabe. Then got busy at work yada yada...

FAWWWWKKK! Still cant post pics. Fuk this computer.

I'm gunna do a final bleed and get the story up tonight from home. Stay tuned...

*intermission muzak on*
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Old 04-08-2004, 09:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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OK. *intermission muzak slowly fading out...* We hope you enjoyed the pastries and coffee in the lobby... now back to your regularly scheduled tech...

I hope this works. Get your part number NM2008 (new) or M or (10)2008 rebuilt 86 E350 MC. Hog the holes out to 9/16"

(note: this is NOT my original tech. I brought this back from 2002 and Mr. Bigdude deserves all the discovery rights. )
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KEWL, good ol dialup crap at home, slow but steady.

Next...

Time to grind the ends of the mounting flange. Just hit where the yellow lines are with the grinder lightly until the MC mounting surface flushes up tight.
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Then, bench bleed the hooker. You can throw it in a vice and litterally "bench bleed" it or like I did, hook it up and pump the brake pedal. My "new" one came with those cool little red plastic nipple cladden doohickies AKA bench bleed kit. There's two clear plastic hoses that came with it. I drowned the ends in a small tub of brake fluid and watched the bubbles come out. about 50 pumps later, done.

Problem is, the fittings dont fit. I happen to have a double flanging tool, so I did'nt care about exact fit adaptors. All I wanted was the ends. I found them on one sincle adaptor.

Part: BAL101 - 3/16 x 8 Fronm Pep Boys this time. I cut this sucker in half and used just the ends on the original lines, and hooked her up.

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Using the ends of the adaptor (you'll see which one goes on which side when you do it) I flanged em and after bleeding, hooked the bitch up.

ps. please put your nuts on BEFORE you flange.
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Old 04-08-2004, 09:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Then, with the caps on the red bleeder deals... as "speedy Gonzales" as you can, thread the fawkers in and sinch em down. I since re-coiled those lines and cleaned things up a bit, but done is done.
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Old 04-08-2004, 09:49 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Before I did this swap, the old YJ MC did a decent job. Although, it was at the point where I was in fear of the pedal hitting the tub before it hydro locked. It was that close. And seemed like it was getting worse.

No shit. After the "bench bleed" and simply hooking shit up... I said fuk it. Looking after little'ns in the afternoon, I just did'nt have time. But I did have time to run it up and down the street a few times for fun. The fawker bruised my belt line and I never even bled it to the calipers. I KNOW there's bubbles in the lines, but it still 250% improved.

Do this. Do this now.

Here's the pig it had to stop.
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Before I did this my front hugeass breaks used all the fluid and my back breaks didn't even work at all. I could lift up the rear end put it 1st and slam on the breaks and it wouldn't even slow down or near stall or even ANYTHING.

now if I slam the brakes down u go flying forwards hit them once then again realy quick and they`ll lock up

Good upgrade!

When grinding go slow cuz that shit is not "tough" metal at all and it grinds hella easy and fast.
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Loppy, thanks for the tech!


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What is the bore size on that master cylinder???
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Old 04-09-2004, 06:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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thanks Soda. Super easy and remedial stuff, but it was so simple, cheap and effective, thought it should be brought back up. You guys gotta do this.

Todd is right. Grinding those ends goes SUPER fast. Be careful. That pot metal goes quick.

Rockslut. Sorry, I have no idea. I'm sure we could spec it out somewhere. All I do know is it "looks" like it's about twice the size of a stock YJ.
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Fawk yeah!! I just did my MC swap, this is by far one of the best mods. I've done lately!

Super EZ, done in about an hour and for only around $45!!

I can lock up all four of my 38.5 sx's on pavement with ease! Thanks for the help guys!


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AutoZone, Master Cylinder #049350........$36.99
Bumper 2 Bumper; brake line adapter fittings. Needed 2 fittings, 1/4"m x 5/16"f for the rear line, 3/16"m x 1/4"f for the front line.

The holes in the Ford MC are smaller than the holes in the Jeep MC.
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I just picked up the master cylinder at NAPA auto parts($42.45). The part # was 4739445 at NAPA. Hay Lop the part # for the brake line didn't work at the pep boys in stockton. Loppy were the hole in the master cylinder both the same size? The master cylinder i picked up had different sized holes.


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Killer write up!!!! Just what i was looking for
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so is everyone that is doing this swap running 3/4 or 1 ton brakes?
has anyone tried this MC with 1/2 ton brakes or better yet, Waggy brakes?

i need to replace all that ABS crap on my SAS 97 S-10
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Great writeup Loppy. This has been on my back burner too.
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so is everyone that is doing this swap running 3/4 or 1 ton brakes?
has anyone tried this MC with 1/2 ton brakes or better yet, Waggy brakes?

i need to replace all that ABS crap on my SAS 97 S-10
Most of us are, that's the whole point. The stock YJ with the o-ring removed is plenty for the smaller stuff...
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Most of us are, that's the whole point. The stock YJ with the o-ring removed is plenty for the smaller stuff...
the smaller stuff being the stock jeep stuff, my waggy calipers are way bigger than the calipers off my XJ, but smaller than 1ton calipers. i'm still trying to decide what MC to run.
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