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Old 11-22-2017, 06:53 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:19 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Hahahahahaha, the total opposite actually.


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Old 11-22-2017, 07:21 AM   #78 (permalink)
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Subscribed. This is going to get good. Not one person talked shit about my cage.

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Old 11-22-2017, 07:37 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Subscribed. This is going to get good. Not one person talked shit about my cage.

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Itís the nature of the internet today, the shit talkers outnumber the content producers a million to one. Itís why pirate today isnít near what it was 10 years ago.

If it gets outta hand, the build thread can just die. The folks whose opinions matter, see it in person!


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Old 11-22-2017, 07:40 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Leave it up!!
Some are capable of enjoying a thread and keeping their opinions to themselves , unless asked!!


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Old 11-22-2017, 07:41 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Itís the nature of the internet today, the shit talkers outnumber the content producers a million to one. Itís why pirate today isnít near what it was 10 years ago.

If it gets outta hand, the build thread can just die. The folks whose opinions matter, see it in person!


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Ya. Even getting simple answers anymore is tough. Everyone tells everyone to use the search button. Well no shit. It's such a big community and would be nice if people were nice. Most are asshats nowadays and everyone knows more then the next guy. Sucks.

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Old 11-22-2017, 12:42 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I wouldn't call critiquing a design "talking shit." Many offer valid points of strength, weight, etc. in addition to stylistic opinions. I like A LOT of the fab done on your jeep, especially the tube work to front half and back half the frame, but the cage just isn't my cup of tea. However, as someone who has bent some tube, I can appreciate the skill it takes to build a cage like you have.

Mine is simpler (easier to fab), lighter (less tube), and as strong (less bends), but doesn't mean that you would like it better. So yeah, it ultimately depends on whether YOU like it or not. I wouldn't worry to much about others' opinions on the "look" of the cage, I would only be concerned about whether they make any valid points about the strength, functionality, etc. But if you do post pics, expect to get opinions. Doesn't mean you should take those opinions to heart though.

And, I can say for sure that Pirate is WAY nicer and kinder today than it was ten years ago.
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:10 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Mine is simpler (easier to fab), lighter (less tube), and as strong (less bends),



And, I can say for sure that Pirate is WAY nicer and kinder today than it was ten years ago.


I joined pirate in 1999 as Fatcity04, then when they had that data breech/hack/whatever in 2007 I created a new account. In those days you'd get your balls busted, but it was primarily by guys who were building nice stuff/people with legit build threads/dudes that had a resume.



As far as your cage is concerned.......I don't have a clue what you've got or the necessity to compare the two? As far as this cage is concerned.....



-It's 116.4779167' of .120 wall DOM

-Weighing a whopping 149.047 pounds total

-Easy of fab wasn't a factor in the design process (in fact, it was the opposite. We wanted to try and build something that was unique even if it required a higher level of fabrication skill.)

-The CAD model was reviewed and design green lighted by the owners PE, I would have gotten them stamped if I realized I was going to have to pass internet inspection!





I got the cage pulled last night and fully welded, plus some prep inside the tub so we can figure out frame tie-ins and such. Just trying to keep grinding!





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Old 11-28-2017, 05:01 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Love the progress, keep posting the build, FTW
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Old 12-18-2017, 10:03 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Finally got the seat mounts worked up. Thereís 3.5Ē of adjustment from the rear most hole to the front hole.














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Old 12-19-2017, 05:27 AM   #86 (permalink)
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I assume it'll just completely collapse and kill any/all occupants, but I designed it this way and proceeded to go ahead and build it like this because I'm an asshole.
(Your cage)...You could simply add a short leg of tube within the bend areas and that would take care of any concerns. Or, better yet, as I see the tube (one anyway) is still fairly straight, would be the use of tube gussets. And that would also look killer!......Love the build, keep it up.

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Old 12-27-2017, 09:50 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Tied the front tube section back to the cage!



Cage is still removable, and plates will be covered by the dash.





Also got the propane atomizer and trans cooler mounted.







New winch is gonna clear nicely!




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Old 12-27-2017, 10:42 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:43 PM   #89 (permalink)
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looking really nice
what tranny cooler is that ?
are you planing using cj heater box? aor any heater parts?
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Old 12-27-2017, 02:43 PM   #90 (permalink)
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Constructive criticism:

A lot of your brackets for suspension links and shocks are longer than it appears they have to be, which increases the leverage from forces when cycling, driving, loading, etc. You could make them shorter and decrease the leverage by either changing where your tubing runs, or making links longer, etc.

The execution of your ideas is great, just could use a little extra thought to keep them from deforming down the line after a lot of miles and rides. Cool build, keep it up.
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Old 12-31-2017, 12:12 PM   #91 (permalink)
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2nd on reusing the stock heater box? Also, are you putting the battery above the trans cooler? Great progress...keep it up!
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:18 AM   #92 (permalink)
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2nd on reusing the stock heater box? Also, are you putting the battery above the trans cooler? Great progress...keep it up!


Using a Mohave heater from flex-a-lite. Main goal is defrost, but probably going to plumb 2 vents into the side of the console somehow as well. Thinking the battery will live under/behind the dash as there's a TON of real estate there.



Designed a bracket that uses the factory column studs that the orbital bolts to. Then picked up a u-joint, column, disconnect, and steering wheel from karteck.









Then mounted the column, it’s got a little bit of adjustment up and down.












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Old 01-08-2018, 08:25 AM   #93 (permalink)
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Started on the console and dash this weekend. Lots of filling and blending to do still, but super pumped to see it at this point.





First step was to layout the dash in cardboard.





Then made a plywood form on the router.



Then wrapped 16ga Steel around the form and tacked in the 1/4Ē sides and machined the cluster on the router out of 1/16Ē aluminum.











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Old 01-11-2018, 09:22 AM   #94 (permalink)
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Passenger dash is tacked in. Not 100% sure what if anything is going in the pass side. Itís big enough for CB and boat head unit if I canít find somewhere better for them.









Hey, Iíd actually like to hear some opinions on PSC steering reservoir locations. Thereís room on the driver side, but itís down low. Instructions say to mount above the PS pump as the pump is gravity fed. The highest point I can actually mount it is passenger side firewall. Iím thinking longer hoses just mean more fluid volume and hopefully lower fluid temps. Anyone got anything constructive to add to that discussion?






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Old 01-11-2018, 09:52 AM   #95 (permalink)
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really digging this build, lots of out of the box design. are the seat mounts welded to the cage or bolted to the floor with the cage tube just running on top of them. also I might have missed it but what seats are those.
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Seats are mounted to the cage. They attach with pins through double shear tabs. Makes pulling a seat about a 3 minute job.



Seats are Corbeau recliners.




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Console sides are coming together. Worked it out in plywood from the bendtech cage file.





Fit pretty good so I moved to steel.



Plan is to cut the centers out of aluminum and use nutcerts to attach them to keep it all neat and clean. Thatíll give us access to the shifters/electrical/heater/etc. mounted in the console.


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Old 01-15-2018, 12:32 PM   #98 (permalink)
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Loving the dash work on this. I plan to do something along this line with mine. Great work.
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