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Old 06-28-2018, 10:08 AM   #151 (permalink)
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I can't click on page 7, some kind of PBB glitch...so that's all this post is for. Carry on.
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Old 06-28-2018, 06:33 PM   #152 (permalink)
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Lets try this again. Started roughing in cage little by little. Drivers side needs to come down about a 1/4" to match the Pass and thinking lowering the entire cage a bit if I can manage. Need to get seats in to determine head room and what not.

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so no front grille hoop!!!!!?
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Old 06-28-2018, 07:13 PM   #154 (permalink)
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so no front grille hoop!!!!!?
Back and forth on it! Definitely lightens up the look of the front end with out, but would like some protection for the radiator in the event of a roll... Still undecided at this point haha
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Old 06-29-2018, 04:48 AM   #155 (permalink)
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I vote for the Grille hoop. Awesome work, I'll be interested to see what it weighs when all is said and done.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:30 AM   #156 (permalink)
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Back and forth on it! Definitely lightens up the look of the front end with out, but would like some protection for the radiator in the event of a roll... Still undecided at this point haha
I had been running a hoop for deer protection and rollover. I came to the conclusion on my build that I am lifting high enough that deer will hopefully go under, and if I rollover I'll still need to replace the windshield so a radiator isn't that much more.
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Old 06-29-2018, 05:53 AM   #157 (permalink)
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.... if I rollover I'll still need to replace the windshield so a radiator isn't that much more.
I would be worried about getting back home with a smoked radiator.

I'm not a fan of the grill hoop look but also think the protection is a must. Cage looks nice!
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I would be worried about getting back home with a smoked radiator.

I'm not a fan of the grill hoop look but also think the protection is a must. Cage looks nice!
what about a tube under the hood in front of radiator (from fender brace to fender brace?) keeps the clean look and protects radiator in a roll. will still have to replace hood/grill but that's just cosmetic stuff
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what about a tube under the hood in front of radiator (from fender brace to fender brace?) keeps the clean look and protects radiator in a roll. will still have to replace hood/grill but that's just cosmetic stuff
Maybe shock hoops and crossover tube would do that
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what about a tube under the hood in front of radiator (from fender brace to fender brace?) keeps the clean look and protects radiator in a roll. will still have to replace hood/grill but that's just cosmetic stuff
I'm thinking thats the route I'm gonna end up going. I was gonna put one in regardless but originally was thinking as tight to the motor/radiator as possible, now probably the opposite. As high as possible and still being able to close the hood obviously is the new plan of attack
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I vote for the Grille hoop. .
it would protect you when people roll backwards into your jeep.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:23 AM   #162 (permalink)
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it would protect you when people roll backwards into your jeep.
Or it will protect the front end when you're pushing the guy ahead of you in the snow...
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Or it will protect the front end when you're pushing the guy ahead of you in the snow...
with the way he's building this jeep, we are all gunna be trying to keep up with him in the snow lol
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:10 AM   #164 (permalink)
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Started adding more tube to the cage Tuesday after work and on the first bend heard a pop. Bending was obviously came to a halt I could've mig'd it but figure I needed to go into work on the 4th anyways so just prepped and ran 3 passes with the trusty tig.

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Once that was fixed was able to jump back on the cage taking out the rake, adding the harness bar/bracing, etc. Seat still needs to come back about 3" and drop a little aswell.

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Next dilema is door bars. What are your guys thoughts on a removable type style with aluminum door attached to the tube itself? I really want the safety aspect of them, but don't want it to be impossible for my grandpa to get in and out of.

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I'm glad you posted that, it's a reminder for me to reinforce my bender before I attempt some 1-3/4" or 2" tube.
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Old 07-07-2018, 12:06 AM   #166 (permalink)
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Certain classes of drag cars can run opening door bars, up to a certain speed, I'm sure that you could Fab something up that would be strong, safe, and good looking. Then put a door panel on it? Yeah. Sounds good. Especially to take your grandpa for a ride...
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Unless you're competing with it there is no reason a set of well designed tube doors can't be used and provide good side protection. Have them mounted into the cage, not the sheet metal. Cage is looking good btw.

Here is another idea:
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Old 07-07-2018, 05:45 PM   #169 (permalink)
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DutchVDub, I checked out your link and that was sorta my original plan! However, one of my biggest pet peeves is rattling when mobbing down washboard or just moving down the trail. The door bars/doors will stay on 90% of the time so planning on using the two interlocking tube clamps, one up front and one towards the rear. Ill weld a small flange to the tube and attach the top of the aluminum door skin with a few rivets. The door will sit inside the factory door opening and will be secured along the lower perimeter with a few dzus's. Probably gonna be a pain in the ass to get on and off but if its once or twice a year I really don't mind. The old man is still young enough where he'll just have to climb over

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Pics are of 1-1/2" interlocking clamps, need to get some 1-3/4" before cutting the tube.

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Wanting to run the door skin a couple inches longer, but this was the biggest piece of cardboard I could find.
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Hmm. Should have built a buggy 🤪
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You just turned your Jeep into a racecar. I'd think that would get old fast.

Just throwing out another idea here.

Door bar that doesn't suck.

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And a door with a bit of support/protection built into it.

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Climbing over a door bar getting in and out every time honestly doesn't bother me. Safety is my number one concern this time around with the build. If I were truly building the cage for myself the bars would stay one piece and probably already welded in. However, I want to be able to take my grandfather for a rip here and there and I know he would struggle to climb in and out. Jay said it best, "Should have built a buggy" You pretty much won't see a single buggy out there without full height door bars and that pretty much what I'm building. Jeep skin shoe horned over a buggy chassis.
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I really do appreciate the input, but I'm gonna run with this approach for now. If it does end up sucking ass, it'll only be two welds to cut out. Plus I like the arm rest haha

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Jeep skin shoe horned over a buggy chassis.
Gotta like that. 👍
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I really do appreciate the input, but I'm gonna run with this approach for now. If it does end up sucking ass, it'll only be two welds to cut out. Plus I like the arm rest haha
I think what you are doing will work. I also think if you really wanted, you could make a door stronger than that bar with a pin at the rear. (Think receiver pin) if you had a rubber pad that needed to be compressed alittle to get the pin in, there would be no rattle.

But it really depends on how often you use it. You are the only one who knows that.
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