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Old 12-04-2009, 06:17 AM   #326 (permalink)
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Very nice!

Did you make the A pillar 2 piece so its easier to remove the cage?

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Old 12-04-2009, 09:31 AM   #327 (permalink)
 
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Very nice!

Did you make the A pillar 2 piece so its easier to remove the cage?
yes... That being said I to think that the two piece idea not as strong as a full tube its just how this one turned out.

Multi plane bending and no standard main hoop were the goals in this cage.
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:40 AM   #328 (permalink)
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Very cool cage, but from the side shot looks like a lot of material to bang the head in the center of the B pillar?
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Old 12-04-2009, 10:40 AM   #329 (permalink)
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Never really took any pics of the cage itself. Am waiting til I mount seats to run A-B bars, cross bars and angle support of B. Also will run from C-B and tie into the frame in at least 6 points, maybe more. Will also be gusseting in a few places as well to beef up strength. Nothing special, just wanted to keep it simple and have room for the boys in the back seat.


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Old 12-09-2009, 01:10 PM   #330 (permalink)
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Can someone explain the A pillar, B pillar, c pillar locations to me...

I am looking to upgrade the factory bar now that the kids are wheeling with me a little more often.

A lot of good info in this thread. I just want to make sure I'm clear on the locations you guys keep referring to.

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Old 12-09-2009, 01:19 PM   #331 (permalink)
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Can someone explain the A pillar, B pillar, c pillar locations to me...

I am looking to upgrade the factory bar now that the kids are wheeling with me a little more often.

A lot of good info in this thread. I just want to make sure I'm clear on the locations you guys keep referring to.

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It's the location of the main vertical supports starting from front to back.
A pillar is "windsheild"
B pillar is behind door/front seat
C is next
D is reserved for station wagons
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here is mine..Done by JVFabrication in Huntsville AL.


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Old 12-13-2009, 06:23 AM   #334 (permalink)
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^^What'd that run you if you dont mind me asking?
I supplied the materials and helped out with everything so it was pretty cheap. The guy that built the cage is also one of my room mates. It was his first cage since got a bender. So my rig was kinda used as a guinea pig and a practice run. Im not real sure what he would charge on the next one that he does.
If you are familiar with Offroad Fabrication Network or Hardline crawlers you can look him up on there, he goes by... JVFab If not I will find out what name he uses on here and let you know.
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Old 12-13-2009, 07:26 AM   #335 (permalink)
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my newest Appalachian Offroad Inc cage with racetrim seats and mastercraft belts. I'm 6'4" and i have good headroom, you can't run a soft top or hardtop, but bikini's work just fine and my soft doors fit and can be operated with ease. It's 1.75 .120 DOM main hoops and bars, the seat mounts, head bars and harness bar and triangulation is all 1.5 DOM, 6point frame tied. Only thing i might still add is a B to C horizontal bar running between them for a little more rigidity in case i landed on the back of the jeep.
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:33 PM   #337 (permalink)
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Why do so many people not do the lower B-to-C-pillar bars on full cages?? Most C-pillar frame tie-ins do not have forward strength so when you lay the Jeep into something in the back the C-pillar just crushes forward. Tubes at the belt line of the tub would transfer much of that load into the forward structure.
Can you post a pic of what you are talking about here? I am having a hard time visualizing it?
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Can you post a pic of what you are talking about here? I am having a hard time visualizing it?
The above picture shows the B to C connection bar Zach was typing about. It goes from the bottom of the C pillar to the middle of the B pillar by the seat above the wheel well.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:57 PM   #339 (permalink)
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This is what I'm building for my TJ. It's a FIA approved roll cage for european baja...

















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What are the sleeves for? That is legal for comp? Just wondering ~ I have never seen sleeves used that way on a cage before.
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Old 12-26-2009, 03:08 PM   #341 (permalink)
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:27 PM   #342 (permalink)
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What are the sleeves for? That is legal for comp? Just wondering ~ I have never seen sleeves used that way on a cage before.
Yes, the sleeves are legal for FIA competitions. The central arch tube must be 50mm minimum outside diameter 2mm thickness and the other tubes must be 40mm but I've built all cage with 50mm..
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Acerni, The cage looks good but can we get more specs on that Jeep? Is it running independent front and rear suspension? From those pictures it looks like it to me?
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Acerni, The cage looks good but can we get more specs on that Jeep? Is it running independent front and rear suspension? From those pictures it looks like it to me?
Yes, this TJ have front and rear indipendent suspensions with this specs:

- Alfa Romeo engine 3.0L V6 aluminium block and heads with dry sump
- Sadev 6 speed racing gearbox
- Mitsubishi full time transfer case with center differential and locker
- Mitsubishi front and rear axles
- Ohlins coilover race shocks
- Custom suspension system with custom front knuckles

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Old 12-27-2009, 03:29 AM   #345 (permalink)
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In this vehicle we must follow the FIA regulations and for this reasons some measurement are fixed like:

- Maximum wide for 4wd vehicle 2000mm (78.74 inches)
- Maximum wheel travel for 4wd vehicle front and rear 250mm (9.84 inches) for indipendent suspension and 300mm (11.81 inches) for rigid axles suspension type

The minimum weight change from different engines cubic inches.

the gasoline engines with 2 valves each cylinder must run a restriction hole from air filter to throttle body with 34mm (1.338 inches). Gasoline engines with 4 valves each cylinder will have a 32mm (1.259 inches) restriction holes
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just curious...what do you think its gonna weigh???
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just curious...what do you think its gonna weigh???
The minimum weight for 3.0L engine 4x4 vehicle is 1712,5 kg (3774,3 lbs)
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Bottle mount in the 3rd pic, I hope that is not permanent.
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